I'm a comparative newbie (only 4 dates), but have read TER discussion boards and reviews a fair amount.  One of the themes seems to be the negative impact the economy has had on the business.  I met a provider tonight who has more business than she can deal with.  32 years old.  Doesn't do full service, just massage.  OK, massage and a little more, but no F/S.  She charges $185 per hour, so I guess she gets $225+ with tip on average.  Tomorrow she has 2 x 1 hour, and 1 x 5 hour scheduled.  This lady is way cute, hits the gym daily, is a total GFE, has her business very organized (one phone for info, one for her schedule, one for direct contact) and her place is completely set for the mood.  She totally gets it, and really seems to enjoy her work.  It amazes me the folks who hang with $300+ for F/S, and struggle with the market.  I figure this girl makes $200,000+ tax free per year, isn't doing F/S, and is having a blast.  There's a lesson here .....

What is the business model that works so well for her?
Charging $185/hour?  3 phones?

Please elaborate on the "lesson here".

Also, I don't understand the 5 hour appointment for massage.

Ask your friend when she plans on buying her beach house. The business is very inconsistent, no matter what she told you. There are numerous stand ups, cancellations and just scary shit that causes the ladies to not have all the appointments that they have booked.

It is a tough business, wither FBSM or Escort. The money can be good but it is very sporadic. There are weeks when the ladies have very crowded schedules and others when they are very empty. They are working a business that is underground with always the chance of LE problems. There is no financial or legal backstop for them if for some reason they are unable to work.

it is harder for someone who just offer massage.  Usually after the initial hot period of being a "find", business levels off.  This business is a lot less glamorous than it seems.

Im sure, as evidenced by the postings on TER the business has its good and not so good times. As a new comer with three very positive encounters I probably have been most fortunate to be with women who know exactly what they were doing on the business management end of things. Each was 30 or over, volunteered they made 6 digits and had been courteasns(sp-sorry) for several years. They each truly liked what they were doing. One had been out of the business but was returning because "I missed my customers. I miss talking with them about their kids and their dog." I think its an attitiude and a perception of who and what they are and do for their clients coupled with everyday business common sense that will help insure long term success here.

I would love to hear a professional response to these thoughts. I think this is a very intriguing story that hasnt been told, and given the right controls, should be by a qualified writer. Send me a note privately if you like. I'll be glad to learn what anyone has to say.

Sswede you've hit it right on the head.  I've been with really attractive 21 year old providers who just want to F**K for as many times as I can do it in an hour.  They connect with the little head, not the big head, and I don't go back.  

The old business classes say that the Railroad industry screwed up in part because they thought they were in the train business.  They were really in the transportation business, and needed to move with the technology and times.  

People don't remember what you said, but they will always remember how you made them feel.  For me, the providers aren't in the sex business.  They're in the "total experience" business.  Yep, we all want a sexual release, and none of the providers would stay in business without it.  But the really good ones make the guys feel great on multiple levels.

Actually we talked about the beach house, or in her case, a bed and breakfast on the beach.  The discussion occurred as she was driving me back in her new 'Benz.  You're right, loans are freaking impossible.  Her business doesn't quite fit all the check boxes on the form.   Nor do her IRS forms.

I'm with you that's it's a tough business.  My point is that there are some providers who do it damn well on so many fronts, and in this case, seems to enjoy what she's doing.

sswede, i know your forthcoming "the hobby" will be a minor hit, especially if you can get interviews with two or four escorts with celebrity stories to tell.

being an escort is not like being a barber or a psychotherapist. the law and "morality" intrude in ways that distort the normal advertising, locating, quality control and customer referral aspects of a personal service business.

the fact that the poster claimed to know so much about the business operations of his minx suggests (or implies) that they had formed the kind of personal relationship (dogs, kids) you mention. but a long term relationship also implies a very special kind of client: for most men, i think, "hobbying" is an unexpected strain. the amount of money paid, the face to face deceptions, the scheduling tricks, the disease worries, the intrusive fantasies about the minx when she's not in your arms -- all that can get old really fast. is it really worth it, when a little wrist action and a hexachrome photo spread will get you the same release at a fraction of the cost and risk?

repeat relationships aren't founded on physical intimacy alone, they seem to require a complex bundle of sexual charm, personality, good grooming, conversation skills, common sense, therapeutic insight, role playing (impression management), health care expertise, compassion, empathy, and plain guts. the best of these ladies are marvelous, amazing, magical spirits. but how can you assign an importance weight to "looks" compared to "compassion"? multiple regression?

finally, this point hasn't been made clearly enough: to be effective, modern (statistical) business analysis assumes an extraordinary standardization of the market transaction -- product price, feature set, packaging, retail display, store location, buyer information, etc. (remember those tacky "standard hairstyle" charts that used to be common in barber shops?). but if you read *ethnographic* or economic anthropological studies of illicit markets or premodern markets, you discover that a tenable "business analysis" is much more elusive, because the same market standardization doesn't exist.

the standardization is made harder because the sex trade is in so many gray areas -- illegal but mostly unmolested by the law, a service (companionship) and a product (hot body), dependent on new customers but hoping for regulars, highly sensitive to moral and economic trends ... make your own list. a fixed business analysis may not be possible -- the sex trade may simply be a *historical* fact, evolving toward new opportunities and succumbing to new obstacles in an ad hoc, open ended, unpredictable way.

in my experience that perspective catches very well the spirit of the best of these ladies, who feel empowered to take control of their lives, take command of their opportunities, put their assets to good use, have an impact on people, attain high standards in their skills, and write their own future. yes, the "full service script" and sound operating principles make a difference. but only marxists believe that history is an economic problem.

-- Modified on 8/15/2002 7:52:06 AM

A GFE who doesn't do FS is not a GFE.

'People don't remember what you said(...or what you do/did, but they will always remember how you made them feel'    niiiice
My philosophy exactly..