Yes, freak-out risk. And the attachment (to you) risk. And the neer-do-well bf risk. Unless she is reviewed, you are taking quite a chance.
Nice if it would work out like in my dreams. Tempting. I guess it depends on one understanding the risks viz. a provider, and the extra time.
Has anyone explored these? Are they populated by a mix of ladies who should really be on a standard dating site and ladies who are actually providers, or are there ladies really looking for something in between . . . a "true arrangement" as they say?
Also, does LE troll those sites?
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I have explored these sites and found that there is a mix of (a)providers (including some ladies who post on this board and its competitors), (b) ladies who should be on a standard dating site, and (c) ladies looking for an "arrangement". I am currently in an arrangement with a lady who expects financial support, but at a level far less than in a standard provider/john relationship.
I've seen several providers on those sites, and there are lots and lots of girls that are looking for love. But there are many girls that are actually looking for arrangements. I've met with three girls off one SD site. They were all looking for an arrangement. The first two were cute but didn't really get me excited enough. The third one is HOT HOT HOT HOT HOT! Hotter than any of the 40+ providers I've seen. I'm having dinner with her tonight, and she says she wants to please me in every way. She's a 22 year old Latina spinner and she's new to the SD/SB thing. I'm also meeting another girl later in the week that seems to have done it before. She also wants an arrangement.
What the girls have told me is that the guys are mostly creeps and weirdos, and it's hard for them to find someone decent. Unless they're desperate they're going to have higher standards than the average provider.
Thanks, interesting. Yes, I bet there are a lot of weirdos and creeps out there on the sugardaddy side of the equation. The whole thing makes me wonder whether a simple provider "relationship" is preferrable, given all the attachment and civvy-like freakout risks.
There are pros and cons to both sugar daddy/sugar baby and provider/john relationships. Compared to provider/john relationships, sugar daddy/sugar baby relationships are usually much less expensive (but much more time consuming), riskier (there are no reviews to guide you), and more satisfying (but not much variety).
We'll see what mine turns out to be. It's worth the risk for me because honestly, it's hard to find providers that are as good looking as a lot of these SBs. I also don't think an SD/SB relationship has to be all business, so that's an added attraction. I'm definitely going to try it out to see how it goes.
We agreed on a monthly rate that is much lower than a provider would charge. And she is damn hot and excited to get going. I don't think providers would get much out of an SD/SB relationship, but for guys it's a great deal if you don't need the constant variety.
Congratulations! Any tips on how to go about finding the right one?
Looked at a ton of profiles, sent out a bunch of messages, and met a couple of girls until I found one that felt right. Not as easy as booking a session with a provider, but I hope it will prove to be rewarding.
Yes, freak-out risk. And the attachment (to you) risk. And the neer-do-well bf risk. Unless she is reviewed, you are taking quite a chance.
Nice if it would work out like in my dreams. Tempting. I guess it depends on one understanding the risks viz. a provider, and the extra time.
A little of all of that. "regular ladies" looking for an arrangenment, "providers", some partially looking for something more than just $$$$ also and LE i wouldn't doubt it.
Also, does LE troll those sites?
In NYC I randomly stumbled on an event for the site "Seeking Arrangement." It's funny you posted this now, cause just yesterday, I posted to my provider blog, saying that, after stripping, trying to be a sugar babe was my other "gateway" job toward becoming a happy provider. I like being a provider the most. I found the sugar daddies on the site a) not good for the money/posers b) not reliable and c) very bent on unprotected and/or anal sex. Most of them just wanted some bargain basement version of an escort and wanted the girl to put up with a lot of crap and take a lot less money. Only one was willing to give me a "monthly" as opposed to "per visit" allowance. During my SA (seekingarrangement) days, I was shortchanged 100 bucks once and written a bad 1,300 check for my rent. Also, lots of men wanted to just take you to dinner and buy you fancy lingerie, but that stuff doesn't pay my bills! I wasn't on there to be shallow. There are TONS of providers on there, but I don't bother, and there are many girls like myself who wanted a middle ground, but didn't have much luck finding it. My experience on SA made me feel like "well I might as well be an escort, these guys see me once and I never hear from them again." Just like, when I was stripping, a guy creaming his pants in 2 songs (ie 7 minutes, ie $40 dollars) made me feel like "how am I any different/better than a girl escorting on the side? I just had a cheap dry hump quickie!"
Also, does LE troll those sites?
I tried a few of the arrangement sites and found mostly posers. There were a couple of guys who seemed okay at first -- they would give me money (less than I make now) on the first couple of dates, then they started running low, promising more 'next time.' The next time would always be another excuse... I saw the same pattern 3 times. Basically guys who can't afford providers. Then I met someone who introduced me to TER and escorting. The rest is history.
Wow, sorry to hear you had such a bad experience. That experience makes it difficult then -- I'll be amidst a bunch of deadbeat creeps trying to find a connection . . .
I usually stop providing if I am in a serious SD/SB relationship. I really enjoy SD/SB relationships because I can date without knowing it will be a life long relationship. I have had some great exoeriences with true SD'S and some so so experiences with the posers.
Its a big time commitment when your in this type of relationship. I am truthfully honest and I hope for them to be too.
I try to refrain for SD/SB relationships with hardcore hobbist because they tend to be cheap and sometimes over step my boundries. I have found more SD'S as first time hobbist then I have ever found through any website.