I'm new at this hobby ,have been trying to follow my fellow hobbist advise, but don't know how to handle this.
I saw a rookie provider from an agency, she  had several high reviews, cute as she could be, very young and told she was a natural at this.LOL
Here's the problem, my fellow hobbist where over zealous with there high reviews, half of what is on her profile is not on the menu when you get there, her attitude and performance isn't even close to whats in the reviews. Not a GFE at all.(she needs a mentor).
My problem is I don't what to harm this young lady with my review yet I feel the need to protect my fellow hobbists and the review system intregity. Nor do I what to hinder myself with other providers.
What to do?????

Fellas we have to be honest with our reviews, because others of us are using this information and trying to make an informed choice on who to see.
NCISFAN

It sucks when you see someone based on reviews and then find the experience comes up short. But that doesn't mean that the previous reviews weren't true for that reviewer.

The best we can do is do our homework, and yes - read the reviews - but in the end, you pays your money and you takes your chances.

Thanks, that link was very helpful.
There must be a way to ask the menu questions to get them verified, before you make the appointment. Otherwise it is just another form of bait & switch, only it's the menu instead of the person.
ncisfan

But does one still do a review , it wasn't so much the menu was different as much as her performance, this wasn't someone just having a bad day, she just present the skill set that you would expect out of a gfe session and such high perf. scores.

Or it could be a case of YMMV. Without knowing what was "off the menu" it's hard to say what possible reasons there may have been.  No offense intended but there could be any number of possible reasons why she did not feel comfortable performing certain acts with you.

My advice would be to write an honest review but be honest with yourself as well.

details, such as what you consider deal breakers.  For example, the profile says BBBJ but the reviews say CBJ.  Ask the reviewers.

Why not *politely* write a review and state that your experience was a little different than that of other reviewers, and in a tactful way, elaborate on this...? You can give *constructive criticism* without being snarky and mean spirited! I think that people should aim for honest, but polite, no?

Good advice, I will write a constructive review, and maybe she will get her profile corrected. She admitting , hasn't read them, doesn"t even have the desire to become a member of TER.
I don't think she's in for the passion just the money.
ncisfan

the basis of any review system is fair unbiased reviews of your experience.
You should review the lady in question on the session you had with her no matter what the other reviews are.
Think of it the other way IF somehow you saw a provider that had say 5's, and your session was one of the best you ever had. Are you going to give her a 5 also??

I don't want to start the YMMV debate.

EG

I have facial hair. For one particular lady who was fairly new but had all 8s and 9s, that meant no kissing and no daty. So she got a 6 from me for performance with a note in my review pointing out the specific YMMV issues for other hobbyists who may also have facial hair.....  btw I agreed with my fellow reviews w/r/t/ her appearance and scored her similarly.....

Another I've run into is being uncircumcised and the lady wanting to do cbj instead of bbbj. When that happens, I knock a point off of the performance score and specifically note the issue in my review for the benefit of other uncircumcised reviewers.

SO - first - ask yourself if there may be anything a little different about yourself that may have brought about this response.

If this was a fairly inexperienced lady she may have needed a little leading by the hand, a little directing. Sometimes a few reviewers of a new lady will have a better result with her because they are a bit assertive, and another gent comes along and does not get the same performance.

And also, if she's not very experienced, you may just not have been her "type" and she might not yet have the professionalism to overcome that and perform anyway...

There could be many issues at play here to explain the discrepancy between your experience and that of others.

Final note: the ladies are not products they are people. Every interaction with a provider will be unique....

There are quite a few young providers in this biz.
Working for agencies. They have knock-out bodies and are cute as a button. The girl that you wanted back in High School. She might be 19 or 20. Just being with her makes you feel 19 again. You almost can't think straight, you feel so good.  Then you write the review. Same old review. You felt blessed to be in her presence.

You have seen so many of the girls from this agency. You are like a preferred client. You love the girls the agency finds. You write those same old glowing reviews.  

What they forget about is this. You have to stand behind your reviews.
For some, this is an EGO-maniacal hobby. For the rest of us, this is much more.
Honestly, fellow hobbiests and providers deserve accurate reviews.
If I ran an agency, my girls would be reading their reviews. I am sure they would want the reviews to be accurate. After all, they have to stand behind those reviews, too.
I'm tired of hearing the same old lame excuse.

YMMV
Because there are other reasons.

We can't deny it.

Wait a few days and write an accurate review.
This is your hobby, too.


Sexy Carolina

...is getting used to the idea of YMMV.

You know what you want out of a session, and you choose a provider hoping she offers that type of session. If you didn't expect the session to be what you wanted you probably would not choose her. Right? Since disappointment is failed expectations, it is helpful to look at an upcoming session as an experience to see what to expect if you decide to repeat. Not unlike a first blind date. (Except you WILL have a little sumpin' sumpin' before the night is over!)

Forgive me if I get a bit philosophical here.

I understand the frustration of not being able to do certain things in a session that you really enjoy. It's especially frustrating to find out that the menu is not what you expected. However, much of our viewpoint about the placation of our expectations comes from our consumerist society. I mean, if we have decided we are going to go get a combo meal and there are no fries to go with that order, then somebody didn't do there job, dammit, and we're not happy! And we're the customer, and we are always right!  

The hobby is not that way. Providers aren't Mickie D's and we, the customer, are not always right. In the hobby one has to shift their consumer-based paradigm before heading out the door with visions of a favorite menu item floating in their head.  

While a session is a simple business arrangement, the scope of what affects it, and what it may become, is much more broad and often not completely tangable. A GREAT session is much more than just receiving the menu items you like most.

Lastly, I completely understand your disappointment and frustration about your expectations being shaped by TER profiles and reviews and then being let down by the real experience. You said you are new to the hobby, so you’ve just learned two valuable lessons. (1) A TER profile is not the official authorized menu of your provider! (2) As far as the validity of the reviews goes, they are no better or worse, no more or less accurate, than movie reviews, restaurant reviews, or any review for that matter. In the end you are going to have to pony up, take the plunge, and then decide for yourself if it worth going back for a second visit.

Welcome to the hobby!

It is important to me that what is written in my reveiws is a correct reflection of the services offered.  Of course, each experience is slightly different.  

It is also important to keep in mind that the reviewers come in all ages, shapes and sizes too.  Each individual experience is just that.  An individual experience from each person's point of view.

I try my best to be an extraordinary GFE.  Most of the time, it works out very well.  It is rare for me to meet someone I don't click with.  However, it does happen.  In my opinion, my same services are being offered.  Furthermore, I will still do my best to make the session an enjoyable one for my client.  I would hope that even if we didn't click that the review would show the effort was still made to be as pleasing as possible.  

I looks like you have had some positive experiences.  Your reviews are well written and also appear to be fair.  I would say be honest about your experience, especially regarding services.  Be as kind as you can and write what you think is fair and honest.  

Hugs, Betty xoxo

Maybe you caught her on a bad day?  Or maybe the other reviewers were dazzled by her beauty?  Maybe there was something about you that turned her off?   Or maybe there are just to many maybes?  You can't know, so chalk it up to YMMV.  If you feel the need to review this lady, that's your prerogative, if you feel the need or desire to do so...

as GoodTimingMan points out, also make reference to what you might have brought to the session that could have influenced that experience. I once met a highly reviewed lady, and though her appearance met my expectations, the service did not. I wrote an honest review, with fear and trepidation, and included some issues that I introduced, that could have influenced our time together. I have never been turned down by any ladies after that, so there seems to have been no negative repercussions from my review.

I couldn't agree with you more.  I notice this all the time where I just wonder what the heck these guys were thinking.  Sometimes I think guys are leery of writing a review that differs from what all the other guys wrote.

Ask yourself....wouldn't you have like to have seen more reviews like yours that are honest and portray your version of events accurately?  Wouldn't that have helped in your decision making process and keep your expectations in check?

I think you absolutely shouldn't hesitate to write a review.  I do it all the time in this scenario. Reviews are meant to inform hobbyists, not to document a figment of guys imaginations.

The best time to write a review is after your hed stops spining and you have taken a cold shower. LOL

Those write inflated reviews get away with it because those who feel cheated by the reviews become white knights and don't write reviews.

Result is cheating goes on.

Write the review. It may or may not get published but you did your part. Main reason hobbyst frequents TER is as a reference. Besides TER reviews, hobbysts does not have other references.

I've never once asked about any detail, but have primarily gone along with highly reviewed ladies.  Yeah, I've been disappointed a couple times, but overall I've been very fortunate.

I never would have thought about asking details via PM.

If you have VIP, you can see the other reviews a reviewer has submitted.  This can be very useful.

There's a girl here who had some good reviews, then got 2 or 3 moderate (7/6) in a row.  Above those are two very good reviews (~9/9).

I checked those newest reviewers, one had 2 previous reviews, and hadn't reviewed anyone since 2004. The other only had 1 other review.  

I skipped her.  I'll check back for more trustworthy reviews later.

Since GFE is important to me, I try to look for the body of work in reviews (4 to 6+). Less likely to be skewed.

When I was growing up, Isreal had just started producing wines.  Thed producers were trying hard, but the wine was neally not good to say the least.

I grew up in a neighborhood that was 50% Jewish with many holocaust survivors, 40% Italian, and 10% families of African origin.  The Jewish and Italian kids were all first and second generation with parents or grandparents who had immigrated.

The Israeli wine was terrible, but out of loyalty the Jewish families would smile and drink it.  and the Italian families, drinking their lovely Valpolacelli, Chianti Classico, and Pinot Griggio, would, out of friendship, pretend that the difference between their great wines and the poor Israeli stuff was just a matter of taste.  

There are feelings of brotherhood/sisterhood on TER.  We all hate to downgrade a provider who is maybe like the Israeli wines, honest and trying hard but really not quite up to snuff. The best solution is to be honest but respectful.

It's done all the time.  Some guys are guarded in their responses, especially if you are unknown, for fear you'll use the info "for evil", but I've gotten some great feedback from guys.  I usually get a couple PM's per week from guys visiting my city.

As an aside, another hobbyist & I started talking about a provider we'd both seen, and have ended up becoming pretty good friends.  He's pretty much retired, but it's nice to have friends that understand the hobby.  It's not great conversation topic with the relatives over Thanksgiving dinner.

There's the look, the nose (aroma), the taste, the feel, the sensation going down, and finally, the buzz you get afterwards.

We ought to attract some more oenephiles here, ain't that right h8t?

I have requested and traded some info via PM to well-known reviewers as well.

And yes, the dinner table can be a troublesome place to dredge up the hobby.

-- Modified on 4/17/2009 10:20:08 AM

Some wines get better with time.

And, as everyone knows it doesn't really matter what anybody else thinks of a wine, if you find one you love that is the wine you should drink.