let me say at the outset that I am aware of the role of chemistry - real or imagined - for a lot of provider interactions.  

It's called booking PSE providers.

boink then  :p    that would confirm my suspicion in some cases -

But if you want to pound a chick for the entire date, then stick your dick in other orifices once you've chafed her vag, you're probably going to want to book with someone who'd be cool with that.  

I love it - thank you....

and provides a high level of service where you feel that companionship is a bonus.
GFE is much more than the fantasy of having a girl who is eager to see you; it is the allure of the encounter accompanied by the mental and the physical connection.  
What makes you forget "it is a service" is a combination of everything not just performance..(her enthusiasm, conversation, attentiveness, wardrobe choice, atmosphere etc).
Using metrics to correlate the amount spent vs the action could possibly make providers complete robots instead of sensitive human beings...That is why, you have the option of PSE vs GFE

As Tobi suggested, book a PSE and fuck from the get go till the timer sounds. You are more than welcome to get what you are looking for.

He needs PSE or a GFE that wants to be mashed the entire time. Some ladies love that, others not so much.

well said palomamontecarlo

And I mean you specifically, you think it is some type of trick to limit the action. Get a PSE and leave the GFE to guys who want that.  

I like a lot of the PSE type of activities mixed in with the faked desire of a GFE.

PSE, you to tell me what a fucking slut you are and suck and fuck me until I spill my beans. And then curl up in my arms and cuddle with me during the down time. I'll softly and intimately touch you and talk honestly and nicely to you, until I stir again. Then I want you to be a nasty slut again until I spill my beans again. I'll donate generously to your cause for the fantasy that is both of those people you pretend to be. And then, we'll go our separate ways, until next time.

You go find that hot little slut and have at it.

If what you want is to fuck, non-stop, then tell her you want to fuck non-stop (allowing, of course for a minute' to let the kitty cool down).

Not all girlfriends will do bareback. I have a serious semen allergy and have NEVER done it. Yes it has caused difficulties in personal relationships and yes there are ways to deal but since I have never wanted children I am fine with it.

You put yourself out there as a man of means. Why don't you just figure how much bangin you want and add 15 minutes to each hour for a little chit chat with the lady you're seeing. That way you can both be happy. Anotherwords " just put your money where your dick is." Not every lady is going to be hot and ready to go the minute you walk in the door. Relax and enjoy the moment. A little chit chat, a little kissing, a little licking, a little groping can be fun. You should try it sometime. Not every gal is out there trying to separate you from your Benjamin's without a good effort. Especially at the level of provider you want us to think you enjoy.  

and I agree with you -   I think people in this thread did not read or did not properly weight or by the end of my post had forgotten about the beginning of it -  in any event,  thank you for your response.

marginal reading comprehension or retention.   You apparently did not properly weight or retain the first part of my post...     but I am sure that all of the ladies on the board appreciate your coming to their defense :p

on the provider...   it is a mutual responsibility but especially when people get involved in a discussion on the boards, they tend to lose perspective and become one sided....

I'm not much into dirty talk -  but to each his or her own.....

then everyone's preferences - as long as they are on the menu and respectful behavior predominates -   are fair game -    

You want an experience that's unrealistic for, not only women in general but, professional sex workers (who happen to be women.) So you touched a nerve with the few providers who responded, a few non- providers who responded, and probably  a greater number of providers who have not responded.

your post - even though I think it is over the top and hypersensitive,  because even the most extreme reaction has value in reminding me to maintain my own perspective, and to keep my own ego in check -   if there is enough in my post to cause anyone no matter how sensitive this much angst then I probably did not write as thoughtfully as I should have done, and did not communicate as well as I had intended.  So thank you for posting

But he's not wrong...

To conjure the air of ps pricing. You're more likely to get a body image problem than command that. Lol.  

Dirty talk often comes across as forced - or fake. Doesn't do much for me.

...if only you'd substitute cream for the beans.

I get it, this board along with other board trying to make this into something other than P4P. To me it should be like, two people passionately fucking for the duration, no drama.  

degrading...   and I place a high value upon manners....

That couldn't be further from the truth. I personally put a shit ton of effort into building a connection so that things can flow naturally. There's just nothing natural about me dropping to my knees the second a guy walks through the door. The fact of the matter is, 99.9% of men don't like it when we're being fake. I hear y'all complain all the time about "robotic" performances, but what's more robotic than essentially being a blow up doll?

I've missed you, great new photos. Your fans are enjoying your new photos. Can't wait to come to NYC.

Just make sure the lady you choose is on board with that. Pairing is important. Not every hooker plays that way and nor should she have to. That is why there is plenty to choose from.

In fact I try very hard to avoid that type of guy because I hate feeling like a blow up doll. Been there, done that and hated it. I leave that to the ladies that love it. So everybody goes home happy.

but as you say, it isn't what everyone wants. At least, not all the time.

you should focus on PSE ladies and get a blow-up doll for those times when you can't find the type of lady you are seeking.

To borrow from someone on a local board, a lid for every pot. If people would stop trying to force their lid on others pot, they might find that life can be more fun. Thanks for the post, lively discussion, far ranging. As for me, I just do not have the stamina to invest in full on PSE like you asked about. I enjoy all the other stuff to much to even try for nonstop action or consider tracking the percentages of time spent doing what. Good day and weekend to you

and I'm quite happy with my selections, which feature neither the added tariff of "PSE" nor the use of plastic dolls lol....      my post is not a personal complaint - I am getting along fine as anyone who bothered to check any of my reviews would realize -   rather the post is an observation on my part about the use of "gfe" choreography in reducing the actual amount of service per dollar - which is not something every provider does by far - but it is a real phenomenon.   Thankfully I know how to avoid it....   and for those who are into the girlfriend illusion more than service quality and quantity,  there are plenty of options for them to consider....

well thought out - and I agree -   I was being a bit cynical about the suggestion of "% of time fucking" as a metric -

contribution to the thread -    I appreciate it -  

In my experience, the guys who come in it with a laundry list of expectations are actually setting themselves up for disappointment. Those are typically the ones who are impossible to please, so personally I'd prefer that those types save their money and skip over me. Thankfully, most guys prefer a more natural, genuine approach to the whole thing.  

Cheap, demanding, with a "to do list", lofty expectations and hard to please, what a fucking nightmare for some ladies, possibly a pleasure for others

How is that any different than working with multiple profiles, at different rates?

...review matrix is necessary. The details general and juicy cover it.

...(illusion, if you want to call it that). They aren't mutually exclusive.

We are completely different hookers who happen to have a similar POV regarding this subject.  

.....wanting a whole lot super kinky stuff but want it at my GFE rate and when I remind them of the PSE rate they go "oh nvm let's just stuck to a 'regular' GFE date then" lol.

He usually just comes on here, rambles a bit about rape and trafficking victims being at fault for the abuse they endure, cites the dictionary (incorrectly) a few times, then changes his handle when he can't stand the heat anymore. He's pretty much the jester of TER.  

It can be very erotic if the right words are chosen. I mean it does not have to be all, "Let me fuck that cunt you fucking whore" type stuff. There can be verbal exchanges that are nowhere near that and still be sexy.

If you feel as though you don't have enough time to feel satiated, just book more time. If you only book an hour and expect to run the gambit of "services," that's on you, not us. Again, you sound like your main focus is getting the most literal bang for your buck, which as I said before is fine, but if you're approaching these situations with a mindset of getting the maximum number of nuts (or whatever the case may be) for the least amount of money, you're setting yourself up for disappointment. And frankly, as hbyist mentioned, most of us try to avoid that type of client.  

Often times the chit chat is for the clients benefit. Nobody is psychic and while you just want to fuck my 4pm wants to unload about work and the wife, and my 9pm wants to ask 21 questions about me like he's gathering intel. How do I decipher who needs what? Conversation.  

your point of view - and actually I am not that bad :p  

for a wonderful contribution to the thread -    

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I've replied "well said" to a lot of good responses to many different threads, but I think yours ranks at the top of all the well said' s I've ever seen.  

Actually means that the client is taking too long to cum or too long to recharge for a second go-round.   Not every customer is as "ready to go" as you may consider yourself to be.  They may want multiple pops in different positions but are unable to make it happen it the amount of time that they are willing to pay for.  That is something that has to be taken into consideration when reading reviews.  Most guys with ED issues won't bring that up in a review.

15-30 minutes of fucking per hour is perfectly reasonable. I'd actually venture to say that 15 minutes is a little light.  

You always seem to just "get it."

"And having the hooker he is with to be totally fine with it". I always have and always will ask a lady if it's ok to talk dirty, that it is just fantasy and that I absolutely do not mean any of it. In fact I had a lady once who hesitated in agreement that it was ok with her. We went through the session and I didn't talk dirty at all. She asked me when we were done "hey I thought you wanted to talk dirty". I told her, that her hesitation led me to the notion that she wasn't entirely comfortable with it and that she might not be convinced that I didn't mean it. I'm not in this hobby to hurt anyone, physically or emotionally. I see a lady in Vegas that will tell me now before she goes to the restroom to het ready "and don't worry, I know you don't mean any of it". And then when we're hanging out during the down time she looks at me and says "you're so sweet". How cool is that, I consider that quite a compliment.

Ask a ridiculous amount of money, some amount he is sure to balk at and tell him why.

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and we'd probably get along fine -   I'm not one of those guys who is looking for three or four "pops" -   in an hour I'm happy with one - I'd be disappointed with no effort toward a second in 1.5 or 2hrs....    but I'm not the type to give you lockjaw either :p

This thread has been interesting, funny, informative, friendly and polite - not a hate-filled, troll-dirtied degenerate downhill spiral.  It even has some fun Tobi stuff.

....i'll tell you all about it . lol

Considering that I managed to throw a grenade in the pond, most of what floated to the surface was actually as you describe -   and I very much appreciate it -    

If Pimpathy hadn't shown up to inject his twattery, I'd have said this is the perfect thread!

This was you FIVE YEARS AGO, almost to the week. Glad to see you have not evolved one iota as a human being in half a decade! Lol.  

who I fucked last week!  

Seems those contestants have a mind that can remember the most bizarre things as well.

Or a lady who is totally corrine ( which means hot in "Mean Girls" context according to urban dict)...lmao.

I will lick all of you ladies to death… Death by licking, it'll be a new thing and my mugshot will be SNATCHED!!!! Thank you guys though, Outspoken confident women encourage me and I…I think I'm in.  

Don't you dare judge me! Lol. I'm a real fast reader and it was lying around my girlfriend's art studio when I was stopping in to feed her tropical fish. I think she bought it at a tag sale or something.

I take the stance you do... You'll notice I almost never reply to him or post under him.  

I am sure you already know which category Pimples falls in to.

I didn't come up with TSTTT specifically for him, but I can't think of anyone more deserving

And that's why he's been dubbed TSTTT. That term perfectly encapsulates him. Furthermore, he's DEFINITELY TSTTTTT (too stupid to talk to Tobi Telford).