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Re: Yesterday, an appropriate date, the Craigs List Killer was
Dr. joe 32 Reviews 548 reads
posted
1 / 17

caught.  

Yesterday was the anniversary of the Columbine Massacre and Hitler's birthday; it was also the day that a Boston University Medical student who, it appears, is the Craig s List Killer, was caught.  Thank goodness.

anabangbang 98 reads
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2 / 17
BizzaroSuperdude 30 Reviews 209 reads
posted
3 / 17

sadly - I think that our police system is probably the most fair in the world.  But I have come to believe that our courts are the most random.  Lets hope.

Dr. joe 32 Reviews 214 reads
posted
4 / 17

They will surely plead him mentally ill.

He probably is, but let us watch this unfold as we imagine that it was a provider who killed a client.

Dr. joe 32 Reviews 181 reads
posted
5 / 17

the "he is really a nice fellow who wouldn't hurt a fly" defense.

Balboa7 69 Reviews 125 reads
posted
6 / 17

I doubt he will plead insanity.  Insanity is a defense and the burden of proof is on the defense not the state to prove the defendant is not insane. It is very difficult to prove insanity and in this case self defense would be the more likely defense.  The state must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant did not act in self defense.

One thing to keep in mind is the jury in the first OJ Simpson trial. Unfortunately most jury pools are made up of people who are available to sit on a jury for a long period of time without compensation.  That means the unemployed, postal workers, low level government workers, etc. make up most juries. The more complicated the evidence the better the chance of the defendant has of being found not guilty.  Another factor: Simple minded  people are also more likely to condemn the victim for being a prostitute.  Religious jurors would also pose a problem since they tend to be more judgmental and very narrow minded.  

The best chance for the prosecution is to combine this murder with another murder if the police can link the suspect to another murder in the same state. In that case self defense would almost be impossible to prove. Remember the burden of proof is on the state to prove the defendant is guilty.  The defense doesn't have to prove anything.

There is a saying around the courthouse:  The person delivering your mail today could be sitting in judgment of you tomorrow.  Kind of scary isn't it?


-- Modified on 4/21/2009 8:43:42 AM

Bostonguy57 48 Reviews 95 reads
posted
7 / 17

There is no death penalty in Mass. As long as he is tried and convicted of first degree, second degree or voluntary manslaughter he will get life.   Sadly, that is more than his victim got...

Balboa7 69 Reviews 93 reads
posted
8 / 17

Unless he is convicted on first degree murder and sentenced to life without the possibility of parole, he could be paroled with any other sentence.  He could be paroled is as little as three years if he is convicted of manslaughter especially if it's involuntary manslaughter.

txBaseball05 4 Reviews 82 reads
posted
9 / 17

...and I am sure that time of discussion will come.  But there are several stages of greiving and one of them is seething hatred.  That is where most are now, and frankly should be.

At some point there will be talk of how this could have been avoided. Just not yet.

Too bad this boy's not in Texas!!!!!

FireinHearth 3 Reviews 107 reads
posted
10 / 17

Read the discussions on the Boston board.  It appears that they have solid evidence against him. I wish I could be on the jury but I live in the wrong county.
Unfortunately "life" doesn't mean life, except in the case of a first degree muder conviction.
My guess is that he will get off with second degree because it is imposible to prove premeditation in his case.  OTOH, if I were the DA, I would go for first  degree on the basis that the murder occured in the commission of a felony, armed robbery.
The case has gained too much noteriety to fall through the cracks.  Also, the treatment of the victim in the Boston Globe at least has been sympathetic.
I hope he gets two or three big, horny cell mates.  He is areal pretty boy.

anabangbang 56 reads
posted
11 / 17

people who are a danger to the rest of society need to be locked up to protect society, not to punish that person.

the reason our legal system is so screwed up is because it was built to protect but its being used to punish.  the jails are full of people who in no way shape or form present a danger to society, why ?  how counter-productive is that ?  wouldnt it make sense to just require community service from them ?

we have no right to punish others and when we do, we escalate the problem because we have become a part of the problem.

when someone wrongs me, yeah sometimes it's hard to just let it go, but i feel it's important to keep my karma good and just feel sorry for those people who "f*ck" me because they are really really dumb if they couldnt see how good i wouldve been to them.. so dumb that i'm sure they'll screw up their life and punish themselves waaaaaay better than i ever couldve.

CiaraPhx See my TER Reviews 94 reads
posted
12 / 17

Sometimes we all need to shout from the rooftops as long as we admit that we're just shouting and apologize for it. :)

I do believe in Karma, and I've always had a problem with people who cannot accept an apology or have to speak or write threatening things to other people. That's just insane behavior -- or drugs. Let's pray for everyone and let bygones be bygones. It's not worth it to sweat the small stuff, and only people in chains suffer the repercussions of their actions.

Hugs,
Ciara

kerrakles 118 reads
posted
13 / 17

Would anyone have thought this guy is murderer? Copley Marriot is an elegant hotel on the Water Front, not cheap. A Five Star Hotel where he committed the crime.

A clean cut guy, a medical student engaged to be married. This goes to show there aren't any hard fast rules regarding who will do what, when and where.

mrfisher 112 Reviews 104 reads
posted
15 / 17

where the Boston Marathon just finished up.

Ironically, LE organized a big bust of traveling escorts at the Long Wharf Marriott just a few months ago.

I like Marriotts myself, but I'm beginning to think they are hexed.

Balboa7 69 Reviews 57 reads
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17 / 17

Unfortunately, many people are either estranged from their conscious or they simple don't have one.

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