The guys here......as in, where I'm living right now.
On my self-imposed hiatus from the hobby (please, please my friends don't worry I will be back to something kinky real soon)
.... I was watching the hit series Bates Motel on A&E and Vera Bates said something so profound it hit me like a BRICK
& I quote "Norman, sex affects a woman mentally and physically".
Truer words have never been spoken my friends!
And that led me to posit the question (Can a Provider Love a Man? Any man?)
With a Provider having so much sex (and for $$$ nonetheless) it HAS 2 affect her mental state of mind.
And with it the capability to ever truly love a man.
I mean I feel sooooooo bad that these women will never truly have what I have. - Well I mean I don't feel that bad after all I just paid you like $300 or $400. I mean damn really c'mon but hey I do feel kinda bad.
Anyway, if a woman has FU---- like 50,100,500 guys can she really ever find true love?
R Providers using sex as a substitute for Luv?
Think about
RT Says: It is impossible to lick you elbow (ha ha you R busted!!!)
It is indeed impossible to lick your elbow....
Yes, every person is capable of loving other person, regardless of profession.. Having sex for money doesn't mean she can't love another man..especially when she is doing it willingly.
Now if someone is forced into prostitution and being abused by strange men, day after day, fucking and sucking 8-10 men a day, it might fundamentally change how she feels about men in general...
But you start an interesting topic....Much better than whining about provider being 10 min late..
I sent in all pertinent info...along with the advance payment you requested.
Is there a problem?
Self-imposed hiatus?
This isn't giving me a warm fuzzy that the 2013 tour is going to happen. We're nearly halfway through the year.
What if a hooker is 10 minutes late? Oh sorry...that was the last thread
Can we get my pal elusive1two laid. He seems to be a bit grumpy that many of the mongers make a shit load of money here. Maybe we can start a thread on that?
.... I was watching the hit series Bates Motel on A&E and Vera Bates said something so profound it hit me like a BRICK
& I quote "Norman, sex affects a woman mentally and physically".
Truer words have never been spoken my friends!
And that led me to posit the question (Can a Provider Love a Man? Any man?)
With a Provider having so much sex (and for $$$ nonetheless) it HAS 2 affect her mental state of mind.
And with it the capability to ever truly love a man.
I mean I feel sooooooo bad that these women will never truly have what I have. - Well I mean I don't feel that bad after all I just paid you like $300 or $400. I mean damn really c'mon but hey I do feel kinda bad.
Anyway, if a woman has FU---- like 50,100,500 guys can she really ever find true love?
R Providers using sex as a substitute for Luv?
Think about
RT Says: It is impossible to lick you elbow (ha ha you R busted!!!)
kind of a rude question imo.
Did u forget they are human, first and foremost.
Geeze, the question almost pisses me off.
The guys here, well lets just say, they make Charlie Manson look like Mother Theresa.
The guys here......as in, where I'm living right now.
There's a difference between having sex with a man you love and having sex with a man because you're getting paid for it. The enjoyment I get from sex is directly proportional to how much I like the person. The better the sex is the more likely I will start to feel feelings of attachment. This is generally why in my personal life I tend to chose FWBs that I'm attracted to and like as a person but could never see myself with. Women can seperate sex from love just as easily as men can, provided they don't have more than friendly feelings toward the person.
"men can seperate sex from love easily"
True for some, but not for all.
But, I know where your coming from.
So let's say you start having feelings for a client. How would you act on that? Would you start to see him off the clock? Would you ask him out on a date? Is that frowned upon? Just curious.
Based upon my years of experience with providers and civvies, the answer is YES. Providers can and never will love a hobbyist that pays women for sex since she feels these men are desperate pigs having to directly pay a woman for sex.
Providers can and do love the "artistic bad boy men" that have a dream but are too lazy to work a real day job. Providers often love and support the children fathered by the "bad boy loser boyfriends."
As mongers, you will never really be loved by a hooker even though you are giving her money to support her kids and/or loser boyfriend.
Providers may call you a "gentleman" but really think you are scum for cheating on your significant other.
I am sorry for the "wake-up" call to the scumbag cheaters on this site.
I would have to agree with u on the "cheaters" part.
But then again, I'm not without sin.
Of course not..you have asked every hooker in the world her opinions.
How's your bride? Does she know that you are a scumbag cheater?
Have you told her about your chlamydia and herpes?
What have you done with Aces8? He was not as depressing and delusional as your Udo poster.
Providers can and do love the "artistic bad boy men" that have a dream but are too lazy to work a real day job. Providers often love and support the children fathered by the "bad boy loser boyfriends."
As mongers, you will never really be loved by a hooker even though you are giving her money to support her kids and/or loser boyfriend.
Providers may call you a "gentleman" but really think you are scum for cheating on your significant other.
I am sorry for the "wake-up" call to the scumbag cheaters on this site.
Not true. I fell for a client pretty hard a long time ago when I was just dabbling in this. We were in a two year relationship and almost got married. I'm now dealing with the consequences of such a rash decision. I don't completely regret it as someone amazing came out of it but it was still a stupid decision regardless. Providers can fall for their clients, not every client pays for sex because they are desperate, it just may be easier for them. I've learned my lesson though. I've met a couple of great men I could see myself falling for but I put a lid on my feelings pretty quick. I don't ask them to spend OTC time with me because I know that's a boundary I shouldn't cross.
Providers can and do love the "artistic bad boy men" that have a dream but are too lazy to work a real day job. Providers often love and support the children fathered by the "bad boy loser boyfriends."
As mongers, you will never really be loved by a hooker even though you are giving her money to support her kids and/or loser boyfriend.
Providers may call you a "gentleman" but really think you are scum for cheating on your significant other.
I am sorry for the "wake-up" call to the scumbag cheaters on this site.
It's the Daily Double of Assholishness!
And in case you missed it, Udo, here's a ditty for you. Ridge got his own version, so here's yours
We have Ridgetucky pretending to have friends, Udo claiming to have brains, and Dungy acting like he has balls, all on the same thread. What a great thread.
he's been kicked around enough lately. Also, in the sweepstakes to win the title of "Biggest Ass- Wipe on the GD Board," he doesn't come close to the other two clowns.
PS: Dungy has pretty much stopped his feckless claims to have balls. That was a mercifully brief, albeit humorous, interlude.
Fatal flaw in your answer. Very few men or women can separate love from sex. Or at least I struggle. It has little to do with the sex and more with the girl.
Awwww, crap who am I kidding It has to do with the sex.
I think we are on the same page: quality of the sex=how much I like you.
Men and women can seperate love from sex depending on the person. It all has to do with how you feel about the person you are having sex with. But like I said sex is more enjoyable when you like the person so I think that's the problem with separating sex from love.
Well, everyone is capable of love. Even the most sadistic evil people on the face of this earth who deserve to rot in hell, like those 3 brothers I am sure are capable of loving their let's say... mother. So I am positive that providers are capable of love.
But I do wonder if the fact that they are seeing so many men might skew their perception of love. Something I might ask the next time I see a provider. Or should I not ask at all? If you ladies wouldn't mind answering that, I would definitely appreciate it.
Thanks for bringing it up Ridge.
I could never do this shit and have someone at home, but it's not exactly unheard of. Love and sex are nowhere near the same thing...you boys of all people should know that. Most of you claim to love the woman you have at home whist out fkin hookers for only sex, but it's funny how you demand gfe and all that companionship that goes with it? Yea, we sure as fk don't need it when we have a BF at home lol. I think women today have a better grasp on detachment than most men.
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I know several girls, including my ATF, who have husbands. In fact, in most cases they are former (or current) mongers.
I could rebut your inane post, but that would be pointless for such a troll. So instead, I offer this brief ditty
I'm really getting concerned now.
I somehow think this was a scam.
They love my cock and make me promise I will be bYet I have none call me and want some more euither p4p or OTC.
I can't detach and have sex with someone that I don't love. I love my clients..sometimes I cry when they leave..I find it difficult. I love people in general. But I remember every thing my clients tell me and I truly care. If someone comes to the door that i haven;t met and I don;t feel that I can be genuine. I very nicely describe that it isn;t right, it has zero to do with looks. I appreciate a well mannered gentleman who is kind and has a keen mind and appreciates those qualities in me. I could not have a relationship and provide ..never. I see about two regulars per week and that is all the love I have. I would be insane if I saw multiple men. I don't know how they do it. Bless them.
What? How the hell can you love someone you've never met? Good lord. You sound a bit off. Sorry to be so blunt, but you really do. "I LOVE all my clients?" Um, well it is obviously not reciprocated in every case, judging by a few things in your reviews. Either you are seriously suffering from insecurity and abandonment issues, or you're full of shit. Which one is it?
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I have four clients and have been seeing them for three and a half years. i am not in love, but i feel love for them. i very rarely see new people. i have a busy career and don;t do this often. Good lord? I am always misunderstood on these boards. i wrote 'low volume' and am very. It is more life affairs than fuck and leave. I am not an escort type..more of a companion. Kabeesh or are you going to continue to question my sanity. i thought i was fairly clear.
I was under the impression that since you charged by the damn HOUR in NY, you actually had clients every week. My bad.
Wow , buddy that is harsh. I have one bad review from someone I never met before,i I sent TER all our emails displaying this, other than that, my reviews are pretty good. Except someine said I had a Futon THis is supposed to be funny in case you didn;t catch it. SO. AM I missing something? to call me a phony is nonsense. You clearly don't engage in this for a connection. The men I spend time with our seeking out that primarily and I am able to do that..Poor you. You are missing out on a lot. READ THE REVIEWS! I am described as a very kid, gentle and way above average smarts,,so hard to dumb down here. I think I will leave you to your misguided and misfired hatred. Oh and my sexual talents are rated very highly, ugh why am I bothering..good night.
There are reasons why this Board is dominated by a few posters, and why many decide to stay in lurk mode. This exchange is a perfect example. When someone posts thinking that is outside the norm of how the regulars think and act, then attack and insult mode is switched on. You can see it in thread after thread. Not sure why it is, but that is reality here. For what it is worth, I like what I see in your reviews.
I haven't gone back in and looked at replies. I thank you for your thoughtful response
While sex and love certainly do go hand in hand, for providers I think most of us seperate the emotions from our work sex, so that when we have sex in our personal lives it's so much different and more enjoyable and just on a totally different level.
I'm very capable of loving and I find that escorting makes me realize what I want and don't want in a partner and also allows me to appreciate and realize what a rarity a truly good guy is. One thing that I think may be difficult for us ladies when it comes to love is- being able to 110% trust our man for ever and always to never step out on us. We've heard and seen every excuse and story in the book when it comes to cheating and why it's okay or what they are saying or thinking in their heads, so potentially that could give us ladies a hard time when it's time to settle down and committing to only one person and believe that one person is committed solely to us.
Just an educated guess and opinion from my own point of view ![]()
That's a little disappointing to hear, somehow...
I'm a 2nd-time married guy (with the second marriage so far lasting into mmpphh-teen years) who tried long and hard not to have the second marriage fail. Eventually, I ended up resigned to leading a life of quiet desperation; for all sorts of reasons (many of which are financially-related), divorce is not really an option. I'm too old to lose half (or more) of my net worth and be forced to rebuild. Entering the hobby was not an impetuous decision for me. It came after quite a bit of deliberation on my part, as the "least bad" of my alternatives.
However: Too soon old, too late smart. Now that I'm well into middle-age, I finally know exactly what I would be looking for in a relationship, were I suddenly magically "unencumbered". Believe me, I could very easily lead a hobby-free life--if I were with someone who is truly right for me.
We're really not all just scumbags who are pre-disposed or destined to be hobbyists, regardless of how attractive or satisfying the lady we have at home might be. Some of us are just "stuck" in bad situations, and trying to make the best of it one way or another.
I'd like to think that if I were a provider, knowing that my civvie-boyfriend had at some prior point been in the hobby would not be a deal-breaker for the relationship.
I don't know, maybe I'm just unrealistic...
I would not either. Once men know about this world and how easy it is to get sex on demand, they rarely ever walk away for good. As soon as the current gf or wife is not doing exactly what they want, when they want sexually, they use this as means to pay her back. I have no interest in that type of relationship. It is one thing if a guy "has hobbied a few times," but another if he was in it all the way for years on end, and totally embraced this life and all that comes with it. So no, a guy who has tons of reviews, posts on boards every day, would not be anyone I would consider marrying, but many can say the same about me.
What you value in a friend and sex partner, is rarely ever what you value in a mate or someone you want to raise your children. If it were, we would not see so many marriages end because of lack of sexual chemistry. Most men marry women they are not compatible with sexually, because they claim to love all the other things about her more...yet, they cheat and act shocked that she is not a porn star in bed. Most knew that from jump and either thought she would change, or that it would not matter in the grand scheme of things.
Then, there are guys who admit to having a wife that is the best fk they ever had and still cheat.
WOW WOW WOW....you hit the NAIL right on the head with that one !! wow
As a matter of fact I've introduced hobbying to civvy's that I've dated who hadn't done it! I'm not sure how you took my post to say that I wouldn't but I apologize if I wasn't clear!!
With a John having so much sex (and paying $$$ for it nonetheless) it HAS 2 affect his mental state of mind.
And with it the capability to ever truly love a woman.
I mean I feel sooooooo bad that these men will never truly have what I have. - Well I mean I don't feel that bad after all I just got paid like $300 or $400.
Anyway, if a man has FU---- like 50,100,500 women can he really ever find true love?
R johns using sex as a substitute for Luv?
Makes about as much sense as your post
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And with it the capability to ever truly love a woman.
I mean I feel sooooooo bad that these men will never truly have what I have. - Well I mean I don't feel that bad after all I just got paid like $300 or $400.
Anyway, if a man has FU---- like 50,100,500 women can he really ever find true love?
R johns using sex as a substitute for Luv?
Makes about as much sense as your post
)))
Lina is not a brainless troll. lmao
.... I was watching the hit series Bates Motel on A&E and Vera Bates said something so profound it hit me like a BRICK
& I quote "Norman, sex affects a woman mentally and physically".
Truer words have never been spoken my friends!
And that led me to posit the question (Can a Provider Love a Man? Any man?)
With a Provider having so much sex (and for $$$ nonetheless) it HAS 2 affect her mental state of mind.
And with it the capability to ever truly love a man.
I mean I feel sooooooo bad that these women will never truly have what I have. - Well I mean I don't feel that bad after all I just paid you like $300 or $400. I mean damn really c'mon but hey I do feel kinda bad.
Anyway, if a woman has FU---- like 50,100,500 guys can she really ever find true love?
R Providers using sex as a substitute for Luv?
Think about
RT Says: It is impossible to lick you elbow (ha ha you R busted!!!)
OMG yes but it has to be one she knows through friends or one she has relationship with as friends for a long time that has got to know her not an obvious guy who just wants to get laid.
That's only meant half in jest.
All people are capable of love, regardless of what their day job (or night job) is.
Whether we ever achieve that or not is up to how well we practice the basics of love: Respect, knowledge, and care. If we practice those, it matters not what else we do for a living.
of course we can fall in love be loved and return the affection.
Not everyone here gets lost in this world. Many stay grounded and seperate who we are from what we do.
And the Men we love are able to see us as who we are and not what we do.
Im not saying this is easy on a relationshipo but its doable with the right two ppl and the right frame of mind.
I am a provider as a profession not as a person.
Its what I do not who I am.
That would be like saying *Can a John or Trick really ever love*
Do you see yourself that way?
I dont.
You are a client a man who too is capable of love as well as Lust.
why would it be any different for us.
More than not we are low volume. Most dont put in a 40hr week its one or two days a few clients then back to our real lives, our family friends and lovers.
.... I was watching the hit series Bates Motel on A&E and Vera Bates said something so profound it hit me like a BRICK
& I quote "Norman, sex affects a woman mentally and physically".
Truer words have never been spoken my friends!
And that led me to posit the question (Can a Provider Love a Man? Any man?)
With a Provider having so much sex (and for $$$ nonetheless) it HAS 2 affect her mental state of mind.
And with it the capability to ever truly love a man.
I mean I feel sooooooo bad that these women will never truly have what I have. - Well I mean I don't feel that bad after all I just paid you like $300 or $400. I mean damn really c'mon but hey I do feel kinda bad.
Anyway, if a woman has FU---- like 50,100,500 guys can she really ever find true love?
R Providers using sex as a substitute for Luv?
Think about
RT Says: It is impossible to lick you elbow (ha ha you R busted!!!)
How open minded can you be assuming providers have sex all day?
I think some guys have no clue & sex is not everything. Some of us are more, than just sex workers.