Yeah you are correct that all you said was you had a hard time judging when they want you to leave.
I do respect the honest website. I think the whole thing is probably chalked up to you trying to read him and him not saying much. He shouldn't need to ask for FS if that is what is on the menu, dear. You seem genuine about caring. So don't over think things. Booked an hour, stay an hour. Massage him or talk or whatever. Then you won't ever have the issue as described. If I want a gal to leave, I will make up an excuse (or the truth) that I got to go somewhere. Few months ago I booked 2 hours and 30 mins prior I had something come up where our time was going to be cut short. I just gave her the 2 hr rate and enjoyed our time, sent her on her way. Like you, she felt bad about leaving too soon (I only had less than an hour before I NEEDED to get somewhere), figuring I didn't like her. She felt a lot better when I booked again. Don't over think it and be more assertive if the guy is being too quiet.The one reason I hate doing outcalls is because its hard to judge when the client wants you to leave. I do not feel like I have ever rushed out, and generally my time is taken advantage of; however, I recently received a bad review stating I rushed out and did not spend enough time "in action". I don't recall ever rushing out unless I get the feeling someone is implying me to leave. It's hard to judge in first time connections.
That was easy. ![]()
U leave when the time that's paid for is up.
If us wanna stay 10_15 minutes extra, that's up to you.
U did your job.
That being said, I've never had a lady rush off, but I didn't ask for extra time.
If she did leave on time, I certainly would' nt let that affect my review.
You feel real safe knowing the client invited you to their private residence they don't have anything to hide & no hotel expense. Simply learn to ask 5-10 minutes prior to your time being up would you, like to share more time, or are you ready for me to leave
You have only been hooking for what, 9, 10 months or so? You're still a babe in the woods. As you get more experienced you wil know how to handle your Johns better and get a better judge of their body language.
Too early to give up on it. Keep at it as you will get a better feel for it. But this just in. You arent going to be everything to every John. Do your best. Let the chips fall where they may
Add to that, a 2 hour outcall in reality is easily 4 damn hours. When I used to do them, I left when my time was up...simple as that. Hotels are a pain in the ass with parking, but a private home is asinine. He can have anything hidden in a personal home...guns come to mind, and so do a variety of other things I won't even get into.
Always have somewhere else to be, and that will take care of it. You really don't owe anyone an explanation. He is paying you for x amount of time, and that's it. When that time is over with, thank him for his time and start getting ready to go.
If you are talking about the guys who are just hard to read, as in you don't know if he wants you to bolt after that first pop, yea I get that. In those cases, just make it known you are willing to stay the entire time and let him tell you "I just don't have it in me."
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Dear Ms. Rayne:
I was just wondering with respect to business practices what were your policies with respect to outcalls when you were doing them? Did you have to meet the person preferably at one of your incalls? Also what types of questions did you have regarding the stability of his personality? The reason that I asked the last question is because now you are going into his environment or at least an environment that is not one that you would control.
Finally I wanted to ask when you first get in, how did you go about seeing where you could exit when you first got in just in case there was a situation? Also would you be more prone to do an outcall in a house versus an apartment because there aren't as many exit points in the apartment itself? When you arrive a the point of no return with respect to doing outcalls, were the questions above relevant to your choice to discontinue the service or were there others factors that weren't mentioned that were critical to you discontinuing the service?
I have never done an outcall to a personal home...ever. The ones I did were always at a hotel. Now, with a sugar daddy, totally different story but he is not some dude that sees me once a month for just a couple of hours. He is someone I have known for a long time, before even making the jump to considering him for that type of relationship.
Really, he might have a gun hidden in his house? I am avid hunter and shooter. My guns are hidden in my gun safe. You make it sound as if a man has a gun he will use it against you
I also don't shit where I eat...thanks again. The two worlds are kept far apart when you have something to lose. If you want to fk some hooker in the very home you live and let the entire world know about it, more power to ya. Far from discreet. If you are one of those who bitches about giving your real name to a provider, giving her your real address is just as stupid. Her using her vehicle registered in her real name and parking it in your driveway...priceless. Guys can't bring a gun or a video camera to my incall without me knowing about it. I have no clue what bs is in a personal home, not a temporary incall. Add to that, it is beyond stupid to go to a MARRIED man's home and fk him in his wife's bed. I repeat S T U P I D!
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..like Vegas for example. The hobbyist is unlikely to have a private residence, and providers don't generally have a regular incall location. There are a (very) few providers who will entertain returning friends at their real-life homes--but frankly, many of them live in areas that are not so fancy--and part of the fun of Vegas is "living the dream" even if only for a few hours, so outcall it is.
If I've booked a longer time, yet don't have it in me to go for a second round, I don't mind just being given a nice pleasant massage (which can sometimes lead to a second round after all), or just some time under the sheets talking.
What I don't like is when I've booked an appointment of "x" hours (where "x" is often 4-6 hours--I don't like quickies, part of the GFE thing for me is being able to let it go more slowly, so it feels like a civvie date), and I've spent my load at "x-1" hours, and the provider thinks it's ok to leave. Leaves me feeling like even more of a human ATM than I even believe myself to be. Hang out, shoot the breeze, offer to take a clean-up shower together, something or other to fill the last 45-60 minutes would be nice--and again, makes the GFE GFE-ier.
The difference is with a multiple hour date, it's obvious you want the company and the provider knows to hang out and be comfortable. With an hour date it's harder to judge what the friend wants without it being said. Some friends actually leave after 20-45 minutes because that is what they want. ![]()
Sounds like he was just being honest.....and all you did was give him a BJ, where was the sex?
charging by the damn hour. Oh boo fkin hoo, he actually had to talk to the poor girl for 10 min. and then gets pissed that she dared leave with only 20 min. remaining. He said in the very first paragraph "The chemistry was not there" so wtf is he bitching about? How many of you guys here can HONESTLY say that with only 20 min. left when you JUST came, that you can recover, get it up again, and actually cum again before that time is up? The time would have gone over, and he damn well knows it. It's not ok for her to gauge her time, but it is ok for him to take advantage of it? I think not. Again, guys like him are the very reason I can't stand most hourly clients.
Granted, she could have stayed there and talked to him or given a massage, but with only 20 min. left did he honestly think he was going to be able to finish again, much less give her time to get dressed. Hate to say it, but an hour is a damn hour! That is in an out the door in 60 minutes! If a provider allows you that 15 min. leeway, it's not because she has to.
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Didn't enjoy it like I usually enjoy round 2. Long story, was in the mood for a quick rendezvous called a lady I had seen before and she happened to be available. I know not a good sign instant availability usually not a good thing, but I had seen her once before and by herself she's pretty good. She mentions 2 girl show special today for an extra 100 I'm like what the hell, if the other chick is ugly ill just leave. Well she was actually pretty hot, so I proceed, btw first time with 2 ladies at once so I was all wound up. Anyways the lady I hadn't seen before climbs on first while other one sits on my face, honestly took less than 5 minutes to finish, screw it I'll admit it I'm no pornstar!! Anyways only had an hour appointment and there was about 30 mins left so we are all taking and stuff and the other girl I guess felt slighted so she starts in on me and to my surprise little guy responded so we all know what happened next. So we are doing our thing and the other chic is kind of cheer leading and watching the clock and encouraging me to "cum in that pussy" (figure of speech yes I was covered) so I kind of forced it on out cause I honestly wasn't feeling it. The clock watching and such kind of killed it for me. So to summarize yes I've done it would I again in an hour appointment? No quality is better than quantity, so now I stick to higher end providers and also do 2 hour min. appointments been much happier.
Sorry, but he's a friend of mine and we talked about his time with her. I'm going to try to be nice. He let her know he was about to cum and wanted sex, but instead she sped up her blow job to make him cum and cleaned up and was out the door. And he was trying to be nice in his review as possible, because he knows this is how she makes her money. read some of his other reviews and then you can be judgemental. There are two sides to every story...........
I think that's called rape.
I have seen Jackie many times and she can get my Mr Happy back for action in less than 20 for sure.
Granted, she could have stayed there and talked to him or given a massage, but with only 20 min. left did he honestly think he was going to be able to finish again, much less give her time to get dressed. Hate to say it, but an hour is a damn hour! That is in an out the door in 60 minutes! If a provider allows you that 15 min. leeway, it's not because she has to.
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you're paid for your time so you know what time you should leave. If someone wants you to leave early surely they would say?
I think she means the guys who are clearly not interested and make you totally uncomfortable, yet expect you to stay and service them anyway, whilst they act like you are not their cup of tea. In those cases, I would not bother at all. If I gave only half the time, I would refund him the money and simply take off. It's not worth the fkin drama dealing with some of these cry babies who can't make up their minds what the hell they want. Some of them are so boring and cold, they would be better served with a blow up doll. I mean seriously....some guys have the personality of a damn green bean.
"a green bean"......lmao.
U could b right.........damn.
If she'd been talking about him she'd have said he has the personality of a dungbeetle.
I bet she has been dying to call me that.......hmm, we shall see.
Having utterly failed in his brief role as Tough Guy, dungy has retreated into mild self-parody. Amusing.
Damm, u have such a keen sense of awareness.
I bet that is such a turn on to the ladies
Oh I wish I could b u just for one day.
I mean..think about it. The man is not capable of writing more than 4 sentences, at best..
Moral of the story... Be the best you can be...

Thanks London, but I enjoy every minute of it. Where I'm at, believe me, I welcome the entertainment.
My best friend here has been in 9 different prisons and is maniac at times........so these clowns are nothing.
hooker, line and sinker.
that's all I had to read from the reviewer. It is what it is. One outlier review isn't the end of the world. As other's have suggested, you might have stayed and given the guy a massage.
And as usual there's his side of the session, your side of the session, and somewhere in between there's probably the truth. When I have one of those "no chemistry" sessions, I usually leave early and don't write a review.
The one reason I hate doing outcalls is because its hard to judge when the client wants you to leave. I do not feel like I have ever rushed out, and generally my time is taken advantage of; however, I recently received a bad review stating I rushed out and did not spend enough time "in action". I don't recall ever rushing out unless I get the feeling someone is implying me to leave. It's hard to judge in first time connections.
review... and all he got was bj... me thinks he was being nice in rating. I would never give a gal a 7 for what he got (assuming it is true). Her website states one pop only.
Now all I do know is that her only compliant about the review was the rushing factor. I'd be pretty concerned dropping all that money for a bj. wtf seriously.
His review doesn't state any sex, just a bj, and his pm told me the same. So i think his review was generous if anything!
It seems as if he knew he only got one pop (as stated on her website) and was trying to move into the sex portion vs. blowing during the bj. Ok, that much I get, but why did he not say, "Hey, I am ready to fk now" lol.
No offense but "all that money for a bj?" It's not "that much" lol. I've given oral only dates for much more than that at the client's urging. We are not mind readers, so if a guy does not somehow let us know he would like to move towards other things, we assume we are pleasing him. Now, most of us offer msog, so we assume that even if he does cim, that the sex will come the next round but I can see that is not the case here.
Maybe I misjudged the guy in question because I did not yet know the details that someone else brought to light, but I still stand by my comments about campers and guys doing on purpose to expect extra time when they book only an hour. It is clear this provider does NOT offer msog, so yea I doubt the guy was expecting another pop, but he was expecting full service for the money he paid.
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All good points LR, each hooker and every john is different. Some hookers don't watch the clock and just go on how the date is going and it ends when it ends, and some watch the clock and leave when the time is up or when the guy has his pop, but there were only to people in that room that knew what happened. She believes she deserves a better score and he gave her what he thought was an adequate score for the service that he received. We all know the scores are inflated, and here's a case where the escort thinks she deserves better. YMMV and you won't make everybody happy, period.
"I will never rush you out early or try to upsell you ... I promise to give you the ultimate GFE and hope to become your ATF"
"Please ... keep in mind I only allow 1 pop per session"
First - Just another illustration of the fact that "GFE" is meaningless, since MSOG is a major component of many guys expectation. Not every guy, but many guy.
Second - I think that you are not being totally honest when you say you hope to become his ATF, unless you think that scooting out the door 5 minutes after he comes will make him crave for more.
Third - he paid 3 benjamins for an hour date and got 40 minutes, how could you possibly expect a better than 7/7 review?
Fourth - I started reading some of your other reviews, which tend to be very consistent from 8/8 to 9/9. In every single one that I read, there was activity after the pop - massage, mutual shower, cuddling, pillow talk, etc. If you want to offer 1 pop only, for whatever reason, fine - but it's that "after" activity that can still qualify it as "GFE". You did not give that to our boy.
Fifth - if you are saying that you left early because you "sensed" that he did not want you there, well obviously you sensed wrong based on his review. And maybe he was the guy who really NEEDED a little extra attention after the fact to raise his opinion of the session.
Keep in mind (and I am not taking sides here) sometimes guys make us so damn uncomfortable, we think we are doing them a favor by leaving. What I think should have happened....he should have left from jump being his first line was "There was no connection." If you know in the first 5 min. something is up, she is not what you thought, etc. you are under no obligation to stay, though some providers will make threats if you leave which is sad.
Many times guys go into a date knowing they are not attracted to the provider (could be misleading pics, she is older, fatter, etc.) and they stay because they have wasted the time, knowing NOTHING she does is going to be good enough.
Then, they write the review and bash her after the fact, when they should have simply LEFT! This guy did not do that, and clearly he was being nice in his review because from messages, there were other things about her that he left out. So yea, I don't think I would have posted this thread, because if he wants to be an ass he might just come on here and say some of the things he "left out" lol.
I just figure one pop in an hour unless I am raring to go off the bat. Takes me a while but I then book for multi-hour then.
It wasn't all of her fault, but she could've massaged him for a little bit. A BJ isn't worth a 7 and that is ALL he got.
I don't know the guys story, just going off of hers and the review. I do know that I am in control of what I want to do when I cum, so if I feel like BJ, switch to CFS, then decide I want to cum BJ... that's what I do. He needs to learn to speak up on what he wants if that is the case. Sounded like she was working it to get him to blow quick though, from his review.
Miss Rayne, I am a bit too big for you to ever get the pleasure... and I don't think you could handle the 10 O's an hour I give.
After 2, I want a sandwich and a nap...you still there? Heh.
I'd give you 12 O's and a 2 inch sausage sandwich
You'd need that nap after me
Hope you cuddle!
When you come to see me for a 4+ hour date,after about 20 minutes of get to know you time, if I like you I'll be completely upfront and honest and tell you that you can leave whenever you want. If you walk out after 10 minutes, it's only money, and I'll probably write a rather poor review (That's never happened). If you decide to stay, I'm sleeping alone anyway and as long as you don't snore, you're welcome to stay until I check out the next morning. (That's happened on a few occasions)
If I don't like you, I'll walk you to the door myself (and won't write a review at all). (This has happened too...Chemistry and cleanliness are both kinda important to me)
Either way you get paid, and in most cases I get laid
Well this blew up. Hahaha.
Let me start by saying my intentions were not to bash him, nor was I wanting a better score. I will start over. I do not recall leaving early, which is sad because it doesn't happen usually so I should know. I don't recall someone asking for more than a bbj and not wanting to CIM, because, well, I am so often asked to slow down with my bbj to prevent premature ejaculation. I have only ever left early, in my eye,s when a friend insists, or asks suggestively. So I apologize to said friend if I left early and you were not satisfied. I will also say that if "the chemistry wasn't there" I apologize to said friend as well. I must have had an off day I guess and apparently can't tell time either
. Obviously this was our first encounter and he may not know me well enough, but if said opinion of being unsatisfied was voiced, I would gladly have tried to make it up to said friend, and not because of a review, but because I genuinely care for my friends and their wants and needs. That being said if said friend wants a to PM me. I will gladly make things right.
And just to clear the air donation amount or not, some people do prefer just a bbj to cim, and with new friends, I think we can all agree, sometimes we do not read each others signs or intentions correctly. I try to be open and honest on my website so friends know what to expect, but let's be honest; we can't all please everyone.
Oh and I actually had a recent situation where I was hanging out at my outcall not time watching or noticing and I was told I had to leave because he was late for work. Said friend was really nice about it and we have a great business relationship, but it just makes it better to avoid situations like it.
"To each is own"
"Damned if you do, damned if you don't"
Yeah you are correct that all you said was you had a hard time judging when they want you to leave.
I do respect the honest website. I think the whole thing is probably chalked up to you trying to read him and him not saying much. He shouldn't need to ask for FS if that is what is on the menu, dear.
You seem genuine about caring. So don't over think things. Booked an hour, stay an hour. Massage him or talk or whatever. Then you won't ever have the issue as described. If I want a gal to leave, I will make up an excuse (or the truth) that I got to go somewhere. Few months ago I booked 2 hours and 30 mins prior I had something come up where our time was going to be cut short. I just gave her the 2 hr rate and enjoyed our time, sent her on her way. Like you, she felt bad about leaving too soon (I only had less than an hour before I NEEDED to get somewhere), figuring I didn't like her. She felt a lot better when I booked again.
Don't over think it and be more assertive if the guy is being too quiet.
"Well this blew up. Hahaha.
Let me start by saying my intentions were not to bash him, nor was I wanting a better score...
So I apologize to said friend if I left early and you were not satisfied. I will also say that if "the chemistry wasn't there" I apologize to said friend as well. I must have had an off day I guess and apparently can't tell time either
. Obviously this was our first encounter and he may not know me well enough, but if said opinion of being unsatisfied was voiced, I would gladly have tried to make it up to said friend, and not because of a review, but because I genuinely care for my friends and their wants and needs. That being said if said friend wants a to PM me. I will gladly make things right..."
Now THAT's a GFE answer
Jackie, you have great reviews and hot pictures and seem to be doing a lot of things right.
I do feel for you and understand that it stings a little when you get a review that's less than you are working towards. There is ALWAYS a YMMV factor at play. There are also a lot of guys who are not good at saying what they want or communicating how they feel during a session. (Communication? Ever met a guy in REAL life? Duh)
Anyway, a 7/7 is NOT a bad review, even though it is lower than your average - it certainly won't hurt your business.
Well, that was nice! I would have said something like "Fk all you bitches" lol.
Yes you would and we'd all be waiting in line for you to do it too. I'd have to be in front being hung like a knat and all.............
for being a "one pop" girl who charges by the hour.
Once you pop, that hour means diddly squat. bI WOULD NEVER BOOK a "one pop" girl for that exact reason. Even though I rarely pop twice.
Jackie's website clearly states one pop per one hour appointment, so it's on the dude to ask her to slow down/move in another direction. I will say- I'm pretty new at working independently, but I've heard more wonderful things about Jackie from my clients than about any other provider in our region (some of my hardest-to-please friends have all but sugih her praises as the perfect GND-GFE)
Regarding MSOG- you pay for an hour. If a lady decides to spend more time than was scheduled/paid for, that's awesome, but it's not something you get to expect/have a right to. If we're 40 minutes into an hour date at the first climax, how the hell do you expect to pop again, shower/dress/etc, in 20 minutes? Despite what lots of gents seem to think, an hour means "60 minutes of time from the minute a lady walks in". I always spend an extra 15-30 minutes per appointment if the client if respectful and desires to spend the extra time. However, I'm not going to "go again" when it took you 30 minutes the first time, and we only have ten minutes left. A lot of guys seem to think they can spend the full hour doing BCD activities, and then chat, take a long shower, and lazily get dressed- if you want a long and luxurious session, schedule (and PAY) for it.
*yes, there are exceptions. If you can go in 15-20 minutes, then MSOG is fine. But that's a small percentage of clients, at least in my experience.
Jackie- "damned if ya do, damned if ya don't" is absolutely right- at least with guys who have enough time on their hands (and so little life of their own) to hag out posting on hooked boards all day. When providers are on here, we're on here because it's part of our job. These poor guys (just the disrespectful/judgemental/nitpicky trolls, not the nice fellas!) are just on here because they have nothing better to do.
well was he paying yu to stay extra time then re this rushing out thing.
I posted something similar last week on the newbie board, had u staued longer than the expected time he wld of given u a great review im guessing, since he didnt last long im sure u are pretty good at what u do. Dont let that 1 review define u!