and it was irritating.   You can chalk up this post as a personal bitch session but it just happened, so.....

Read a review about a new gal in SF area who offered BBBJCIM.  That's a real fav or mine since the space-suit on my missile often refuses to allow the payload to reach orbit.  

To me BBBJCIM means exactly that she doesn't hesitate when you cum....let it fly and she catches it.    I have fav's who do it really, really well...my personal experience rating system is keen.   But everybody knows we like fresh, new experiences!   So I tried her.....

I do NOT want her pulling me out as soon as she knows I'm cumming and then finish with her hand!  For me that loss of sensation greatly diminishes the pleasure.  Orgasms only last seconds and I paid good money for a good orgasm!

A high quality BBBJCIM is something I am always looking for and happily pay some extra to get.  Don't switch at the vital moment to HJ....grrrr.

This young lass did exactly what I hate....enthusiastic BBBJ action...looking up at me and stopped once to ask "are you cumming?"   You got to ask?!!!    I kinda knew what was going to happen...and sure enough....the first pulse she pulled me out and finished with a HJ.  That's called BBBJCIM-interuptus.

OK, I feel better now.  Bitch session over.

When I first started I would try to do guys a favor and make it last longer by squeezing them until it backfired.Now that is interuptus!
My ex bf had taught me that.
It was an honest mistake.lol I didn't know about TER until a mod contacted me a few years ago.
I learned to experiment on civvies not customers.
Sorry that happened.

Why didn't you tell her not to stop or try to grab her head?
many guys just come out and ask, "can I come in your mouth"
I will say either yes  or we'll see.
If I really don't want him to cim I will push his hand off when he comes and move away.
The only other time I move the guys hand is because it strains my neck when someone holds my head while I am enjoying myself with him. I don't want my neck muscles getting tired too soon.

Maybe your like me and have a hard time verbalizing when you are in the throws of passion.

Why don't guys just say what they want during sessions?

Try to express what you want and be more vigilant in letting her know that it's really important to you.

should know this.

But some of them especially without much experience need to be guided, taught. They need the feedback.

If they can't do a BBBJ with CIM then they really need to communicate that and it needs to be in her profile.

Like you I hate "suckus interruptus". I do not cum in a hat very often. BBBJ with "follow through" even if it means CIM is *the* central pleasurable activity for me.

a pro should know enough to do CIM properly, if it's on the menu.  If I want to finish that way I'll often whisper my desire to her when we're between the sheets.
I know some guys think it's "cheating" for a lady to use her hands "at all".  Personally, I like a bit of porn style hand on the shaft action, to supplement but never replace the mouth.  
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“Why don't guys just say what they want during sessions?”

Because we are trying to be polite and not crude. Something’s should be understood by a professionally lady without ruining the moment by having to ask.  Especially so if the lady advertises BBBJCIM

She expected you to finish by masturbating on her face.

I "assumed" she would follow through as the one review stated.  I'm experienced in hobbying so I got lazy and didn't cumfirm

Holding her head is not something I do....way too much into it in my own way.

This was a lesson to me to recumfirm what I want before we get started.

I thought you paid for her time.
And anything that happens between consenting adults....yada yada yada

If she does CIM, I already know it and don't have to worry about it.  If she doesn't, I know that too, and don't expect it.  While CIM is nice, it's not one of my requirements.

Swim

That's a bitch. Yeah, the handjob thing is not a good thing.

Rip your cock out of her hand and point it at her eyes.  That will teach the bitch.

Sarcasm filter is out for repair today.

I never hold a lady's head. I'm not into CIM anyway; but the most I do is gently help her with her hair.

I thought   CIM was PSE?   lol...

Well...guess she didn't swallow either...DAMN!


what the hell do I know!  LOL....


I need to study my Acronyms again....dang!!!

I'm going to get my ass kicked...but GFE is NOT the same as PSE...not according to my menu....

If she had advertised it on her own personal website, or some other instrument of advertising that she, and she alone had control over, than "yes" I could see where he would have a reason to get his knickers all in a twist.

But as we all know, a review is something that is completely out of a provider's hands, and therefore, we can in no way be held accountable in anyway for what is in them.  

Channelguy said it himself, he got lazy and just assumed.  Now he's pissed at her?  For all we know, the whole review is a fake review.  I dont know what is and what isnt, but I certainly dont think that the provider is in any way to blame.

Now she is No Quitter!!!!!



http://www.heaven666.org/v/1990

to me a true "GFE" means going above and beyond to really please your partner, because you are genuinely concerned about his happiness. if that means letting him holding your head down firmly in the midst of a very passionate BBBJ, so be it.

sorry to hear of your disappointing experience, but as you said now you've realized the importance of expressing your desires explicitly while in a lady's company.

this is yet another reason why i dislike the review system...human beings are viewed as restaurants with a "menu," inanimate automatons expected to provide and perform X, Y, Z for whomever walks through the door. the reality is that we ARE indeed human beings, and things like chemistry and compatibility are going to be different with every single person we meet. the relationships i maintain with each of my individual clients are unique, therefore the activities we engage in together are all unique. there are things that feel very natural and comfortable with some, that would never even occur to me with others.

if someone has a specific activity they desire from me, i do expect to be told straight out and not for any assumptions to be made on their part. because you know what they say about those who assume...

Lilli, so is DATY but we all know how much you hate that. Please understand that some of us will not go to the lengths you do...after all you're a true sub and don't mind what that entails. As a real live girlfriend if  my BF tried that...well let's just say he wouldn't. A gentle hand for sure but holding down or any pressure...no thank you.

And I do realize we have very different views on GFE...and I think that's great...there is something for everyone.

I would love to see both you and Doggie stud. Separately of course so I can give you exactly what you deserve and pay you both such special attention that it would be quite the unforgettable encounter.

I was being sarcastic, and I'm guessing that he's serious.  In any event, it's unlikely that you and I will meet.

Certain things are not generally acceptable in hobby so I suppose head holding is no no.
Some guys do it because they are aroused.
If a guy tries to hold my head and thrust he goes on my DNS and def will not get CIM.
But when mt fees were in the high range under another of my names/ads I was more accomadting because the price was properly adjusted and in those sessions I did things I didn't normally offer.
I would never see someone who wanted to clarify things BEFORE we got started.
I think he should just let her know DURING the session that he really wanted CIM and that was his main goal.
If she understands how imortant it is to him and she is YMMV then she can accomdate him even if she wasn't planning to .He can sweet talk her into it.
THE REVIEWS ARE NOT WRITTEN BY THE LADIES!!!
You can't base your expectaions solely on second hand infornmation.

consider any reviews as pure fantasy.. and also YMMV applies.  I hope anyone who considers seeing you sees this post before hand so they can pass.
Swallowing strangers juice is way unhealthy.
I congratulate any lady who takes the alt route and diverts. REspect yourself ladies.. you are worth it. when you are really good at diverting, a lady STILL gets reviews that say nothing was diverted.
Reviews are fantasy buddy...and you seem way creepy. My advice.  stick with your old standby.. has she been tested recently?  ha ha

Just wait til she meets her first guy who is seeing her a day or two after having a prostate biospy. When the spunk comes out chocolate brown, you can bet that she too will never ever again allow any man to cum in her mouth.

Yes, its happened, and its why I no longer allow CIM, period, ever.

I might have been having a little fun with you guys myself....seriously if ever any man treated me like that I would certainly give him what he deserves...use you imagination...that goes for any man that likes to call me "bitch"...I have something really special for that term of endearment.

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Next time why dont you tell the lady what you like, Never had this problem with any girl

Ya know if I don't want to do something no manner of sweet talking will get me to change my mind...just saying...but if that works for you...great!

Probably not a thing to say around some guys who will now think it OK to "sweet talk" aka pressure ladies into doing certain things.

I can't CIM...I'd gag and or vomit. I just can't stand the taste. So I am with you...and that's something I save for my personal life. Might sound corny to the dudes on here, but that's my choice and no manner of sweet talking will get me to change my mind.....just sayin'.

AS they say..read the reviews and find a lovely lady that doesn't mind CIM, but then again it is always YMMV due to any number of things.

The list of shit that women make men do is fucking endless, and we don't even get fucking paid for it. This guilt trip that women and ball-less manginas are trying to pull is exactly that, a fucking guilt trip.

I don't mind asking a woman if she will do something that she doesn't do for everybody. I also found that superior DATY skills will often times get a BBBJ form a woman that claims to be CBJ only, Yeah I guilt her into sucking my dick without a condom by giving her a dozen orgasms, sue me for being such an insensitive ass.

What wrong with sweet talking anyhow? It beats the hell out of whining about it on an internet board. I like CIM at least as much as the next guy and I am not bashful about asking for it. If she says no, then she says no. If she cops an attitude about it, then Fuck Her, and not in the nice way.

They said all the good band names were gone...glad we could prove 'em wrong...

I was being comical .. having seen too many porn movies of big cocks being shoved in and porn stars gagging.

I respect the limits of providers. If I don't like it, I'll walk out.

Literbike ... I'm surely not going to see you.. but if you ram and rub your pussy-crack in my tongue and squirt on me while you sit on my face ... I'd be happy to oblige.  I might gag from your squirt, but I don't mind tastin pussy juice.

Did you read on her website or ad that she offered CIM? Or did you just read it in a review?

As several others have said, we as providers don't have control of what is written in our reviews. I had a friend who got a bad review because the guy was upset that she grew a landing strip. The guy wrote in the review that she should have been clean shaven, because her profile stated she was shaved completely. This is why the reviews can be a double edged sword. Great reviews will help us get more business, but I think they guys should take them with a grain of salt. Guys can exaggerate or lie in reviews. I'm not going to base my sessions solely on what is written in my reviews.

If you wanted her to let you CIM in the session, you should have communicated that to her. Don't assume she'll do it just because some other dude wrote that she did.

No problem with any of your post...sweet talk away, just respect the words "no thank you" and it seems that you do.

No-one should cave to a guilt trip if they don't want to. They only have themselves to blame if they do and that goes for both sexes.

If your sweet talking can get you extras then more power to you.

Have a nice day!

As tempting as that sounds...I'll pass. And thanks for respecting providers limits...