I think we can all agree that process of screening is the suckiest part of reaching out to someone new.  Sometimes it goes smoothly: Informative initial email from client, warm prompt reply from provider, quick reference check response from outside source and then a clear confirmation of logistics. When the process goes this smoothly, it seems like both parties are more relaxed which saves energy for cute flirting and some sexy teasing.. HOWEVER, when the screening process turns into a clusterfuck...you begin to say to yourself... Do I even want to still fuck this person?  

Protects you from LE and a$$holes you wouldn't want to see, us hobbyists from ladies who are not worth seeing.  Your job is tougher...you have to depend on guys providing you with accurate info, having a valid P411 or other screening profile, references from other providers, and hope for the best.  We guys have TER reviews, PM's possibly from other hobbyists, and our own intuition.   No matter what, it's always a leap of faith that the person you are in contact with is on the level.  Just the nature of the game...

...well, let's agree that the screening process isn't the highlight of the overall interaction lol however, I am grateful that there are still quite a few hobbiest out there who, like you, appreciate the process and are prepared. You don't know how many times I've been the middle man between a guy and the agency he uses as a reference. Talk about phone tag!  

because of a deep love affair with a very jealous and very wonderful women.  When that needed o end, I found myself with no recent references.  I am self employed, what to do?  
I had been on TER for years and I joined 411, but no OKs yet.  I did find a lovely and charming lady who would see me and send in an OK then there followed others.I was grateful to the first one. I understand the need for screening and would not feel comfortable with someone who did not do that, but for certain of us, it is not easy to get a foot in the door.

We have a lot more information about a provider before booking a session than the provider has about us. If the girl isn't on P 411 and has no reviews I probably will pass. But providers get info through screening that we don't - legal names and home towns. Screening works both ways to ensure our mutual safety. If the guy asking to see you won't cooperate, it's your choice to say no.

Im with Crazy Diamond on this one. Screening is for both of our benefits.

..that wasn't my intention. I always have a hard time expressing my tone on this forum. Seems like I'm angry and exasperated...but that's just the Hispanic in me.. We're loud even in writing.  

But I've missed out on a lot of lovely ladies because I refused to give out my work info or send them a picture.  Between being here on TER for over 12 years, DC, and over 30 ok's on 411, I figure I've already got enough info on me floating around out there.  And as far as me knowing more about you than you about me?  Well, its your job to be out there, advertising yourself and wanting to be well known in order to attract clients.

If he expects to see you with compromised screening or asks inappropriate questions, you know very well he wasn't really cool. The curmudgeon who gives info up front>the unverifiable charmer. There should be no 'halfway', especially between now and November. With this business, it's hard to think of lost money that may go to another girl. However, some of these guys know that. They want to sound like a catch to distract from the fact that they won't provide info. They want you to feel you'll regret not seeing them. But, if they expect you to bend rules and take risks before even meeting you, what will they expect in session?  

and make your own safety the top priority, always.

Ahhh the fish.... Always the voice of reason !! 😉

Want a board name I told her about Ter If you post A few review chances are you not the cops or a thug especially if did it over a year or more. So just by having A ter name could good enough and posting on message board could prove you name if that lady ask.

screening is not a buzzkill at all. If you had an 8 to 5 job, you have responsibilities etc.. this is just the same. this is your job. Do you not like doing your job? then maybe you should look into doing something else. Ok i was being exaggerate, but you get my point.

I get requests for half assed verification all the time. My safety is top priority. and I can usually tell someone will be a problem or not when they send me a text or email with "You available now?" No name, no reference of where they saw my ad, no hello, nothing. It's very disrespectful and makes me not even want to continue the conversation. My screening form is very clear. and if you didn't read my website why even contact me?

Can we do the CIM thing now?

wait..... Lol so, if someone has to carry out one or two dull work responsibilities, you would encourage them to just strap the job entirely and do something else? Lmao! That's a tad extreme and unrealistic., huh?  There are plenty of things in life that I love doing and my lifestyle/career choice happens to be one of them. My enjoyment should be evident by the amount of time and care I give my perspective clients, even when they're not being completely fair. Your advice about scrapping the whole job would make sense if I had flat out protested against screening due to my absolute hatred of performing the process.  
But, as I wrote in my original post.. It's a buzzkill and not the highlight of my interactions. Ultimately, I wanted to express that hobbiest are not the only ones frustrated when screening doesn't go smoothly; that even though some of us want to...performing personalized screening for each person is hard to keep track of.  

Someone above mentioned exchanging socials now.. sooooo??

LE and crazies.
You have your screening criteria. If it's obvious the potential client is unwilling to comply  politely decline and waste no time with additional email exchanges.
Not sure what your requirements are but name & references should be adequate. A board history that includes reviews and White List Referrals should also ease concerns.  Employment info is going to be a deal killer for many and actually is useless.  If LE wants to set you up ( which is very...very rare ) they'll have no prob creating a fake job verification .

Just this morning I had a guy who had no references, no board presence, and didn't want to give work info for privacy concerns. He wanted to meet in public so I could "see how great of a guy he was"  

..I'm sorry to hear about the major creeptitude in which you've been subjected on this fine summer morning. Hopefully, you've not allowed it to affect your day. Still waiting to see a photo spread of you in your school clothes btw. Lol! Holding breath

i've been self-employed basically since i graduated college (quite a number of years ago now...*ahem*). i've been hobbying only for about 5 years. maybe i'm lucky, but screening and verification have never been an issue. early on, i believe i gave providers enough verifiable background information regarding my business name and contracting offices for whom i had worked. whatever their individual processes, they seemed satisfied enough. i wasn't hesitant or uncomfortable with the process mainly because i myself could verify the provider (through sites like this one). why should they not be able to verify me as well? self-employment or not, it's better for both of us.  

I see A lot of the feed back has been centered around the importance and necessity of proper screening. I completely agree with all of you 100%. Reading over my OP as well as some of my replies I guess I didn't correctly express the actual problem I'm having and I also feel I should explain what I mean by me not sticking to my requirements. My fault.  

I find it to be a side to this business that I don't care for. It seems to have become more and more arduous as time goes by. The fake google voice numbers, phone tag, the "I don't want to give you my number, give me yours I'll call you." "I'm a good guy, dont let this business jade you; you have to trust a little."  

In the past, I worked for a few agencies who did not screen. And yea, some of the guys I met there were cool guys. But they were extreme last-minute bookers, and definitely weren't going to feel comfortable with a screening process of ANY sort. I mean, they were basically calling 1-800-DIAL-A-HO and taking the first person who showed up (blonde, redhead, Asian, whatever. Just get here quick!). But that didn't mean they were bad people.  

Multiple times on this very thread, you've seemed apologetic when there was neither need nor even demand for it. The moment you seem apologetic about yourself and your policies, you've attracted the assholes. Some are looking to see what they can get away with and look for that opening with a sweet lady. A hundred emails stating you need screening info won't deter some jokers from continuing to withhold info if the tone sounds at all apologetic. Give one polite, firm response to a nervous prospect and move on. They'll pony up or move on. If it's hard thinking about the money lost, get an assistant. Xo

And what they don't realize is that when they give us the info needed upfront we don't even remember it. Lol. We check it, it's confirmed, he's verified and the name is saved in my phone. Now all future bookings is done with a simple text and coordination of our schedules. Hell if it's done in the first email I have time to ask his favorite color, drink of choice and Lingerie and shoe request.  

The last thing she want to do here is come off as a "bitch", and in that regard she is most definitely succeeding. Do you have any idea how many women get on our "must miss" list by coming on here, whining about their "stupid" clients and acting like a spoiled rotten bitch.

Between being bitchy by doing the things you listed (things I never advocated in my post) and trimming back your email correspondence with those withholding info (which I stated in my post.)

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She put herself out there under the name that she does business. VOO-doo and Sex-Aeterna can be as bitchy as you like without adverse consequences to your business. SSJ doesn't have that luxury.

but not for "services rendered" of course and not to any lady I didn't know REALLY well.

Was charming they said

I think it's important to be screened. I personally love a lady who does a little investigation on me before we meet.  I find that ladies who take a little bit of time to find out about what I am like in person - tend to have a better time.  

He knows from experience

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and we both know I don't "roll that way"  

This makes sense to who? So you take the info someone gives you over a phone,you make a couple of calls.Seems to be ok.You open your door to this WM corporate type your all looking for, everything's going well till your grabbed,sliced or punched out in your VIP space. Now what? Oh that info helped. Was It Worth it? Was It Really? Yeah he's going to jail. Is he?

Did the gag just admit hes open to meet a pretty tgirl? I call that progress ladies and gentlemen.

Real “screening" was something I never had to worry about until recently, when I decided to go above the radar. Prior to, I was just seeing clients based on a small referral base of clients I already trusted and could easily get al the digs without actually collecting the information per say.
That said, I don't know how you run your business but I think if you have a website that  clearly has your screening policy and rates and you have someone unwilling to provide the information when they contact you, it should be considered a red flag. If I was in this situation, I may re emphasize the need to screen and the fact that it's in the best interest of both of us and if the client still was unwilling to provide the info I would just let them go.
Also, since I've just recently opened myself up to marketing to the public, I also give clients multiple methods to do screening. One is minimally invasive, one is newbie friendly, the other is in between.

YEAH (SUGAR) BABY!!!!!!!!!! lol

or I'm sending it as a deposit to someone I trust very well.

Nothing you wrote seems insensitive. To me, it must take courage to see someone in your hotel room or his/hers and not know anything about the person and be prepared to get intimate.  I find 411 excellent because I give one web site all my information and then can reassure providers now that I have seen a number or providers. Being here on TER also helps.  I used to have a large number of ladies who white listed me, but that suddenly disappeared for no reason I can tell.

feel safe. Hobbyists do not need to know what methods each provider uses to stay safe. If a guy (or gal--Lopaw and others) can't give the lady the info she needs then he/she can move on.

Are you willing to give your personal information to a client? I'd like to know your real name before I let you suck my dick BB? Some how I've gotten over the fact your not going to give me that info and go for it anyways. I guess it all boils down to your tolerance for risk.

...and the British flag. Then look down the left and find "show white list" if the little box doesn't have a check mark in it your white list won't show. Click the box to place a check in it and your white list will show.  

Click, click, click and I'm done.  Booked for next week.  It's that simple.

Personally, I always provide the info any lady asks for at a minimum, and approach it as if I am responding to a personal as I would on a dating site.  This has served me well over the years, and always do it front.  

Im guessing the story didn't make much sense because I failed to mention that the personal check was literally signed "John Doe" making it worthless.. I laugh about it now but i definitely cried at the time LOL   Ahhh,  what an expensive lesson! Needless to say, my Mr. Pimpington was quite annoyed..

I'm willing to give you my first name, but my work info, well that's another story.  That's just asking for trouble.  Anybody that gives out that kinda of info is just plain stupid..........

exactly what you ladies need to do to protect yourselves.
When you're a respectable guy and get vetted as quickly  
as we sometime do, we have no way to understand how
many inquiries you get each day.  

Personally, I've never cared for giving my place of employment.  I don't understand how that makes you safer.  I will give out my name and a reference if possible, and you can always check my ID at the door.  It's easy to google someone or white page them, and if you want more info can always pop for the $30 background check I guess.  I do pay for p411 and I think that should be enough at this point.  Not dissing your need for safety, every girl has to do what makes her feel comfortable.

if they don't send you the info you need right away, do you really need their patronage?

Spending 5 days in Vegas next week. Click, click, click. Booked up for the entire time by well reviewed ladies on TER. Did not have to give up any info.

From a client perspective, I tend to mostly see girls from BP, and would have no real references for you.  I'm also self employed, so employment verification is a non-starter.  But to be completely honest...I'd be *seriously* reluctant to give any provider employment details, because of fear she might decide to engage in a bit of extortion.  Although I'd have no problem giving you my TER alias that I submit reviews on for you to browse.  For other screening, it depends greatly on the type of appointment: