I’ve been a provider for nearly 2 years now , and I was just curious as to why hobbyist that are very active are the ones that try to negotiate rates ?. I’m not saying all hobbyist are like that. But I have too many trashy hobbyist that have seen low end girls inquire to me and ask to see me at lower rates. I’ve had some even send me a txt and said if you drop your price I promise to leave an excellent review!!. Needless to say they were told it’s a no flat out after asking that. I don’t understand why they think any great provider would do that. It makes me wonder have they gotten away with this from other providers and they now think it’s acceptable to be cheap and disrespectful. To me it’s a major turnoff if that’s the first thing anyone asks when they inquire. I honk the most embarrassing thing is when I meet a new client and then when we get started they ask if I offer discounts. In all honesty that just kills the mood for me if I’m about to get into it with a client and then they fucked up by asking if I’ll give a discount.    

As Woody Allen used to say, "in my family, the biggest sin one could commit was paying retail"!  Seriously, the answers to this are as varied as your customers.  But let me try to cover at least some of the major basics:

.......negotiate, sure......CLICK.....hmmmmmmmmmmm.  For those of you whom have forgotten or are to young to know that is a hangup on a landline.   Nexxxxxxxxttttttttttttttttttt.
Suzee

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I quickly browsed one of your sites and did not notice the obligatory "these rates are nonnegotiable" comment with your posted rates. Given how common this and even stronger language is on escort websites, perhaps its absence from yours suggests to shoppers that your rates are negotiable or they at least have nothing to lose by trying. Since the lowballing clearly bothers you, perhaps you could try calling it out on your site and see if that discourages it. If I were you and deadset against negotiating, I would not dignify any negotiations with a reply of any kind. Don't know what to say about someone who would attempt to negotiate in person except to say that it is obviously unfair and sleazy behavior. When you make the appt you are committing to pay the agreed rate. They should ask themselves how they would feel if they showed up and you tried to negotiate a higher rate.

Number 1!!!!  
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Ding, ding, ding, ding!!!

I consider myself a good tipper,not a $20 tipper..And am just not a  discount kinda a guy either.As a business person am not a fan of it.Actually quite a few ladies told me am one  of a small handful  of guys who tipped them,so it does not surprise me.

Probably because of the HBO hit reality show "Cathouse" where customers usually negotiated rates with the providers working there on-camera.

Although, sometimes I will ask at the time of booking if she is running any multi-hour specials that she would like me to be aware of that are not shown on her website.  She can say no, in which case I will still book the one-hour appointment, or she can tell me what her 2, 3, or 4 hour "specials" are, in which case I may book a longer session if the incentive is there.  Its not really asking for a discount, but rather giving her the opportunity to reel me in for more money overall by extending the session and offering me an incentive to do so.  Many business-savvy ladies already have a built-in incentive for extended sessions right on their website, so it those cases, I don't even ask if there are any unpublished "specials."  I can tell that sometimes when I use this approach, there were really no "specials" but she sees the opportunity and makes one up on the spot.  Lol

Your profile lists multiple websites with different rates. One has your HH rate at $160, another at $200 and another with no rates at all. This type of discrepancy is an invitation to haggle. It's best to have uniform rates across the platforms.

I’d never ask for a discount or try and haggle; if I think a given rate is to rich for my blood, then I don’t even bother contacting the Provider in question.

Oh, I most certainly second that; clear communication goes a /long/ way ladies.

Not necessarily.

or offended?  or call names? "low-end girls, trashy hobbyists" . . .  

Or be for lesser times or services.  Like a FBSM rate & a GFE rate?  The clearer you are the less this should occur.  Refer them to your web site where It should say No Negociating.   Be prepared to answer quickly about Specials inquiries.  

I hate negotiating, so I try to avoid it at most cost. If I like something and can afford it, I pay the asking price. People give me crap for it but it's just the way I am. I hate it when clients try to get me to lower my price. If I say a project will cost $10,000 then that's the price I can do it for.

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Answer: Over on the P&R Board, vaporing about his idol, Demented Donnie.

I don't negotiate a provider down on prices.  Some guys do it because they get away with from other providers. They feel they have spent too much in a lifetime on pussy.

Who looks at penny stocks in this day in age? Usually those that don't have a lot of money and hope to hit the jackpot, kinda like powerball. Just the mere mention of penny stocks is hilarious. Are you living in the early 2000's? Do you work for JT  Marlin?  (Boiler Room reference btw)

Who goes into Capital Grille and asks the waiter if they can get the Porterhouse for $40? Prices are non negotiable. Either you pay it or go to outback. You have options and in most cases, you get what you pay for. Providers are subjective and understandably, some think they're a 10 when in reality they may be an 8. Hobbying is subjective. However, prices are prices. Anyone that wants to negotiate them are cheap imo. There are certain instances where negotiating is expected when it comes to the free market. Hobbying isn't one of them imho. Look at the providers website and liated prices...if you can't afford it then go find someone you can. Put yourself in their shoes and dont be so self centered....how would u feel if some lame john tried to negotiate u down. DUH. Try to sympathize....cus none of u johns can empathize.

Um.... no one here is too young to remember land lines.  
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Uless your client list has shifted from Baby Boomers to mostly Millennials. LOL  

Should be telling you something.......

I think Dave Chappelle would call that "brittle spirits."  If someone wants to negotiate and you don't, say no.  

And when you go to the car dealership you pay the sticker price?  GTFOH! They try to get as much margin as possible....and if im paying cash i ask for a cash price, downplay their car, and overplay my trade in.  

...i would never insult a woman who's running her own business by asking for a discount...if the experience wasn't worth the price...SUCK IT UP AND DONT REPEAT-leave a bad review..donations should be worked out up front...will say that one or two of my regular friends have offered me a discount when donation costs have gone up..i said thanx...then left a bigger tip...helln...how would guys feel,if before those panties came off,she asked for a "surcharge"??...no extra cash/no internal gash...

Million year old question thin

Thats about it..!  Take it ..Or Leave it..!! 🤣🤣👩‍🚀

you'd know that wrps has spoken frequently here about trading in penny stocks and has been ridiculed for it.
Please go sell some of your own penny stocks and buy a clue.

When you even perceive an insult!

and that the girl, once they meet them, will ne so hot for them, that they should not pay.. or pay less..

I've never had it written anywhere and also never had to deal with it. Probably luck but also making it clear from the beginning that you won't deal with any bullshit which is evident more in attitude and conversation than a disclaimer on site.

Read my post thoroughly, don't selectively read. I said, "There are certain instances where negotiating is expected when it comes to the free market." Most high end ladies have longer visit rates posted. This isn't a high end purchase lol duh. What do you have to show after 2 hours? You think this is a high end purchase lmfao. DUH. If you consider pussy a high end purchase, what kinda house do u libe in amd what kinda car do u drive lol.

Hilarious that you post under an alias...a keyboard warrior that needs another layer of concealing themselves. Lol. U sure have some big balls.

Big balls guy!  LOL

A white knight for jake? Lol. Do you not know how to read? Oh, you must be Jake's other alias.

As for Jake, he can use all the help he can get, but for all practical purposes Jake is his "real fake name" It's the only name he posts under, he has thousands of posts under the same fake name and several people here know his "real" info, myself included.

You are both correct, my deepest apologies!

The "alias" comment threw me off.

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I love it when confused people start flapping around.  For once, GaGa is not one of them.

He spends too much time over there.Needs to spend more time over here.His idol is getting laid while he is over there jerking off.

Happy new year btw. Good sense of humor.

In my experience there’s no way to stop it completely from people asking but I just want to know particularly why mostly hobbyist ask. But thank you guys for expressing point of views.

That website was created when I was with an agency and those 180 and 260 are my old rates form over a year ago. I tried to have that profile taken down as I told TER I did not create it and had no access to it. TER told me to contact the agency that made it and they would have to take it down. They never took it down or corrected it even when I asked.

That is exactly what happend. I started it with a provider named Naughty Bobbi. She had her own agency and I was new and had 180 HH and 260 Hour when I was with them. I can understand now why it maybe confusing. But yes you are indeed correct I told TER I wanted those sites taken down and they said if they did not create the site they can’t remove it or update it. Bobbi said her husband created the site and she didn’t know the passwords or user names under those profiles and sites that he created for me while I was under her. So bobbi did not have the power to do anything. So I’m stick with it unless there’s another way to take it down or update it.

Funny I just had a half hour conversation with someone who said my rates were too high for the area and asked if I could discount. And then another one with a guy who has been trying to meet with me and  finally did saying the exact opposite of why do u not charge more! I don't seem to be having any issues getting people either way. I do  
like to throw out a few discounts here and there but only on certain days. When I do rarely do people take advantage of them. Just like anything that is sold there are sales and promotions but it is a mood killer when that is the first thing they ask about. It give u sense that they are there just for a quick hit it and get out and they could care less who they are doing  it with. I like how some of the websites say maybe I'm not the companion for u. To each their own. Quality of over quantity....

This is also my fear! I seek out a great session. Undercutting pricing is just asking for mediocrity, which would be well-deserved.

Or Boss Baby !!

If you are advertising on BP it especially is not going to change.  Just ignore those who ask for discounts and see the ones who pass screening and don't ask for discounts.  I've had little issue with it since I started primarily doing most my marketing on Twitter among other things, but I remember when I was on BP and Eros and the negotiaters infested my phone with stupid texts.

of johns and providers. Johns who'd try to get a discount and providers who'd upsell/charge extra once session starts.  

I think asking for a discount is tacky especially in the 1st couple meetings. I will say after you have seen a provider a good number of times and you have a good report it's ok to negotiate especially if you are looking for a regular long term arrangement.

Last time I checked I don’t stay at roach infested motels offering QVS and see just anybody. My rates are high, I screen very carefully for my safety, and I stay at costly expensive hotels where I know it is safe for myself and my clients. All factors considerd yes I am a high end provider. Quality over quantity!. I am particular about who I see because believe it or not I do have a life outside of my profession. I don’t take high volume either as that will draw attention myself. I have always politely told hobbyists that have inquired to me that I don’t feel comfortable meeting them if I know they have seen some questionable providers. I don’t tell them they have seen questionable girls because they in all fairness may not have known or they just don’t care. Either way all factors considerd I do very well for myself and that is the way I operate. My safety comes first and foremost.

Right! Even the ones that find me on Eros and P411 have asked for discounts or asked if I’d see them for a lower rate. I just politely tell them my rates are not up for negotiation. I think the ones that asked were so embarrassed from asking that they stopped responding.

it's how you ask bro.  

Some people, men and women are wired to bargain.

Lol. How you ask for discounts? You must use coupons and shop at walmart. Is that why you only have 3 reviews, none of which are listed? You must wait for these discounts from providers. This isn't a purchase as you don't own anything. It is a service you are receiving. I never think, I purchased pussy. I do, however, feel I purchased a house cuz I own it. To me a purchase is tangible. When you get a massage, did you purchase it? Maybe we have differwnt definitions...purchase, definition: acquire (something) by paying for it; buy. Do ypu acquire this pussy? Are you buying it? When you rent a car, is that a purchase?

I don't remember exactly how it went, but it was something along the lines of  

Obviously they haven't been convinced of anything or this post wouldn't exist. You actually compared pussy to cars? Was  Andrew Dice Clay doing stand up in the delivery room when you were born?

A "hobbyist" aka sex tourist shops for dates with women as if they were at a swap meet market trading goods and services. An encounter with a provider can be truly a transaction, but if you are a provider who offers an experience and not a menu you should stay away from anyone who identifies as a hobbyist if you don't want to be treated like a product at the flea market.