Well said. Some of the very same people who scoff at smoking, have a vagina that smells like it was caught in a fkin net!
Sorry if this has been discussed before. I did try a search and all it turned up was a lot of "What are you smoking" slam comments.
Anyway, to the point:
I smoke. Yes I know, dirty habit, waste of money, lung cancer, yada yada yada. I've heard it all over the past 30 odd years that I have been a smoker, so please save the bandwidth and keep it to your self if that's all you have to say. Thank you. I know it's a lot to ask, but please try. I have a sincere concern about provider/client interaction.
The question is this. Ladies, even if a guy say, gets all ready at home, brushes teeth, etc. and does not partake on his way to you, can you still tell? I won't bother asking if it's offensive, because it's a no brainer that kissing someone who smokes, if you don't smoke, is not likely to be enjoyable.
I'm more interested in whether or not you can still tell / taste the cigs on a client if he has made an effort to be clean of mouth for you. Have you ever been surprised to discover a client smokes because you could not tell while kissing, etc.? (And if so, what was his trick?)
And guys who smoke, what do you do to be as fresh as possible for your date in regard to this?
P.S. any bets on who will not be able to resist the temptation to get all preachy about smoking? Or who will post the first picture of a diseased lung? Or say "Just quit smoking..duh"
I know who my money is on...
I've had guys who I have seen for years, and never knew I smoked until we went somewhere off the clock. Others, smoke with me during break time outside. Some people can always tell because they are sensitive to smoke or have allergies, and some can't. Anyone saying you can ALWAYS tell is full of shit, because they can't possibly know what "another person" can pick up on. My mother never knew my dad was smoking on the times he claimed to have quit, and duh...they are MARRIED. I was the one who busted his ass lol. She was like, "No...I don't think so, because I would have smelled it on him." Ha. Guess not.
I am a gum chewer (madly) always wear perfume, and my strategy is to smoke before I put on any clothes that can pick up the smell. You also have to go outside and not be in a closed space like a car or hotel room. No one has ever told me they smelled smoke in my hair or on my clothes....ever, unless I was not trying to hide it.
Personally, what you do before and after you leave a provider is none of her business. You don't even have to tell her that you smoke if you wash your hands properly and don't do it on the way there. That is more than you should even be expected to do.
Its on your clothes, in your car and even on your skin. Hard to get rid of.
so is ANYTHING you eat or drink. Ever eat too much garlic? That stuff secretes from your damn sweat glands, and other places lol. Same principle with people on High Protein diets...BLUCK! There are ways to mask the smells of various things, though some noses will always pick it up.
Do not smoke once you put on the clothes you plan to wear for your date. Smoke before you take a bath, brush your teeth, wash really good and use lemon juice or even a cap full of bleach in your bath water. Won't hurt, and NOTHING is going to be on your skin after that. They recommend this for children who have Staph that keeps coming back, so if it can take that away, it can certainly handle some smoke.
Don't smoke in your car or any confined space, and certainly NOT in the same place your clothes are hanging. Sorry, but even if you are NOT a smoker you can pick it up if you go sit in a damn bar where everyone else is smoking...just don't do it.
There are cleansing and detox products you can use that will help extract toxins from your skin, so look into some of those at the head shops and health food stores. Over 50 of them, all for different things. Use a lotion that has a mild, but manly scent if you are overly concerned. Even when I did not smoke, I could not tell if someone did, if they were good at hiding it. I was usually shocked to finally see them light up. I can smell pot though...big time. I can also smell things like fruit from a mile away, and dogs!! I will take a smoker over a dog lover any day.
Again, some people have very sensitive noses and are like blood hounds, but I wonder how those people ever get more than 2 feet close to someone, without picking up what they ate for breakfast and what they washed their ass with.
I knew you were going to be helpful, and witty, as always.
Damn I wish I lived closer to you...
Stop smoking for couple of months or so... All the trapped odor will go away. You would have washed all your clothes a dozen or so times.
Then go see a provider who is a smoker and claims to be clean and does all the mouthwash, shampoo, shower routine before seeing clients, and see if you can tell or not..
Trust me I can still tell that the person smokes, but again I am more sensitive to smoke and odor than most guys...The only true way not to smell smoke on someone is if the person doesn't smoke at all.
Also tell us how you feel after not smoking..Chances are you will feel much better about your overall health..
I can relate to both sides here, I smoked for almost twenty years and quit about 25 years ago, I am not one of those that bash smokers, but I can tell you with absolute certainty that brushing your teeth, etc is like mopping a floor that is rotten under the tile, the top might be clean but you can never get rid of the smell from beneath. Sorry.
That said, breath mints, refraining from smoking for as long as possible before a session, etc will definitely help but I assure you if your date is a non smoker she will still be able to taste it on you, and depending on her sensitivity you might get LFKs where a non smoker will be getting DFKs.
lifetime smoker will never be able to mask the taste. I don't smoke but the lifetime smoking women I have kissed tasted like an ashtray.
I don't smoke, and its none of my business if you or anyone else does, its your life. I chew tobacco and thats my vice. Most of the women i see are smokers, and i bet most of the ones you will see smoke too. Most of the time you can always smell it a little, and then there are times not at all. I belong to AA, Altoids Anonymous, to try and keep my breathe as fresh as possible during a date. I usually go through a can of Altoids every 2 dates. So have fun, RELAX
the qualities i value highest in a suitor, or potential suitor, have a lot more to do with the way he treats me -- and the way he treats others -- than whether or not he smokes.
i couldn't care less about smoking.
Lancaster is awesome motorcycle country. I feel a summer sexpidition coming on...
...before i ride YOU? 
yes, my family is hugely into motorcycles and immersed in motorcycle culture... and Lancaster is indeed perfect motorcycle country! plenty of winding back roads and beautiful scenery to be enjoyed! i love it here!
I LOVE having a girl on the back, all snuggled up tight.
It is definitely on, Katie...
Good stuff in that thread. (Missed it by THAT much... my search was 300 days..LOL)
So, the question is, were you able to quit?
but my clubbing days were in the era when EVERYBODY smoked in bars. I always came home stinking of stale smoke, clothes, skin, hair, etc. I would hang my clothes up outdoors rather than let them stink up my apartment.
But I don't mind the smell of smoke on a woman (as long as it's not intense, radiating from her pores) and I have a bit of a smoking fetish, so I like to watch a woman smoke. I don't mind the taste on her mouth (some brands better than others).
Having said all that, I can ALWAYS tell if she is a smoker no matter how much mouthwash she has guzzled or how long ago she had her last cigarette. As a matter of fact, I can usually tell if a woman is a smoker just by looking at her.
I've had a couple of dates recently where there was very little evidence (taste or smell) that she was a smoker, but after we had a little fun I'd say, "you know, I don't mind if you smoke" and both times they dove into their purse, lit up immediately, and were like "ohhh, thank god!" 
... and then... "how did you know?"
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last Nov. The provider I see talked me in to stopping. my SO smokes around me My friend still's smell's it on me. Not much you can do to get the smell off!
you can ALWAYS smell it on or around someone who smokes. You can't hide it in any way, shape or form. It is always there. Ok here it comes...but I'll be nice...
Just QUIT already LOL and live longer dammit, SOOOOO not worth it.
I've had clients that smoke and I can always tell whether or not they smoked before they saw me.
I smoke cigars from time to time, but I've never smoked a cigarette in my life.
I never smoke in the 24 hours prior to a date with a provider. I may have a cigar afterward, though.
Generally, I don't eat anything in the 3-4 hours before a date. I floss and brush a few hours beforehand, then I use mouthwash or gum several times leading up to the date.
If a provider is GFE and she smokes cigarettes, you can taste it in her mouth. Even if she's non-GFE, you can always smell it in her hair when you're in missionary position.
Mostly whether they are a smoker themselves and how sensitive their olfactory senses are.
The question is: Why is that important to you?
Do you wonder if a gal will not want to see you if you are a smoker?
I would not let it bother you. I'd say half of providers are smokers themselves, and most of the rest are rather inured to smokers, so it should not matter.
I would rather a world where no one smokes, that that ain't this world.
I have a wonderful time with providers who smoke and those who don't smoke. It's a non-issue to me, and I think a non-issue to all but a few.
Personal hygiene is a much more important factor. Fortunately that is one we can have more control over too.
Well said. Some of the very same people who scoff at smoking, have a vagina that smells like it was caught in a fkin net!
but there are many things you can do to mitigate it, and to all but the most sensitive people it will be a non issue.
I can't stand kissing a woman that tastes like an ashtray,nor do I like getting really up close and personal with a lady whose hair reeks of tobacco, but if a woman takes steps to minimize the smoke odor, even if I notice it's not much of an issue unless it's overpowering, I would imagine that same holds true for the lady's who must see clients that smoke.