I don't think you would cause any harm by posting a review of her. As long as you are honest in your review so be it. As a provider she should know the value of representing herself honestly. The fault is not yours, but hers. If anything, you are being kind and thoughtful...Good for you!!
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Recently a touring provider came to my city for the first time. I was one of the first to encourage her visit and one of the first to book an appointment with her.
When I arrived, she looked a bit different than I expected. The pictures were her, but they were old and of course, the face was blurred. She was a nice woman and had a great body so I went ahead with the appointment. As to our time together, she was a lot of fun, took all I had to offer like a champ and was all about me having a good time.
My question is two-fold:
1) Because I value the reputation that I have built as fair and honest guy, if I had posted about her, I would have posted the positive as well as my disappointment. I didn't want to potentially negatively affect her tour by posting that I thought that her pictures, were shall we say, flattering. But on the other hand, I didn't want to have a hobbyist think that my post was a ringing endorsement, so I didn't post at all. She knows that I post regularly. Did I do the right thing?
2) I really don't want to hurt her feelings with a review. If I were to write one, the absolute best rating that I could honestly give her IMHO, appearance-wise, would be a 7. From what I have seen on the boards, many providers think that anything below an 8 is not really that good. Like I said before, her effort was outstanding and we did have fun together, which is why I am hesitant. However, again, she knows that I am very active. If I don't write a review, I am sure she will wonder why. Should I write one or leave well enough alone and show my appreciation for her efforts by not writing one and potentially giving her what many would feel is a sub-par appearance rating?
Btw, I am using an alias, because obviously if I used my handle, she would know that I was referring to her.
Tough call. I recently rated a girl a 7 for appearance, but she is one of my favorite girls I have ever seen and she commented about it in an email that she was disappointed. I am very picky and told her so and that 7 is a good rating. She just wasn't my usual build preference. My feeling is that you should never write your reviews with concern that the providor will read it and be offended or flattered. That's the only thing I don't like about the review process. Reviews should be honest, although I think for that very reason they aren't.
I was also wondering if any of you have an UTR favorite that you won't review for fear of hear being "discovered" and suddenly very popular. I almost didn't write a review for a girl I recently saw because she had no reviews and she was the best girl I have ever seen. I don't want her to get swamped with business as I plan on seeing her regularly. Personally I think you should post the review and just mention that you thought she was very good looking, but not what you expected. That will prevent other guys from having the same disappointment. I doubt it will hurt her business. Just be sure to mention in the review that she is definitely worth meeting despite her pictures not being too accurate. That's my advice.
I believe that these boards exist for us, not for the provider. All the questions that we cannot ask may be answered in the reviews that we read. If the review is colored by the reviewee, then it has little value - so if you rate a girl higher than you really believe she is, you are doing a disservice to the next guy who comes along.
But the other side of the coin (for me) is that I love all these women, I think they perform an incredibly valuable service, and should be treated like national treasures. All of them, not just the ones that I think are "hot". So I hate to see them "run down" in a review, unless of course they are truly deserving of a bad one. It's a shame that some would be insulted by an appearance rating of 6 or 7, but it's often true nonetheless.
In this case, from the info you've given, I'd write the review, rate her a 7/8 or 7/9, state clearly in the title and intro that you had a good time and would see her again, and then explain the rating in the juicy details just as you have above.
just my .02
Well, the good thing is that you do not have to rush to post the review. Compose it mentally, write it up in a Word or Word Perfect document, sit on it for a week and then revisit the whole question with a fresh[er] eye.
The two posters who reponded have done so intelligently and cogently. Take into consideration what they have advised.
A few days earlier a thread touched upon this question, with the usual variety of POVs. I've linked it [successfully, I hope] below] for your perusal in case you've missed it.
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=215341&boardID=12&page=1
Let the experience stir in your mind for a few days and see how you feel about it. I only write bad reviews when a lady offers poor or rip-off service. When faced with an average performer who may be a great lady but just wasn't my cup of tea I tend not to write review...
And yes, no provider is happy with a "7" for appearance...
When I READ reviews I look for consistency and traits that I like in a woman. "Drop dead gorgeous" is not a requirement so I may not attach as much significance to the appearance number as some other guys would. Personality, comfort level and enthusiasm are much more important to me so the performance number and what is written about the session are the key factors in a review for me.
As others have said, this is a tough call...
I am also posting under an alias because I don't care to have my real identity traced back via reviews. With that said, I think you should post an honest review stating that she just was't your type as well as letting other hobbyiest know the pictures were taken when Reagan was president. LOL. I have seen more girls with 8 &9 for looks and I have to wonder what is wrong with the guys eyes. ie. Model material for a girl 25 lbs. overweight with cellulite. The ratings for looks are so far out of line with reality you wonder if the guys are afraid to write an honest review or they have never seen a beautiful woman in their lives. Think bell curve here. You can't have 90 percent of the girls in the 8,9 and 10 ratings. Don't take this as a knock girls, I consider myself between 6-7.I'm sure the regular white knights will come out of the woodwork for this post.
I am new to this hobby, but have seen several providers over the past year. Before any of my encounters, I dilligently researched prior reviews. Each time I thought I had found an excellent fit for me. Each time I was somewhat disappointed with the reality of the providers versus the expectations generated by the reviews and the photos on websites.
I got to the point where I seriously felt like the whole "Hobbyist/Reviewer/Provider" situation was not much different than a typical on-line dating web site. My interpretations of this situation were either:
1) Most reviewers were so unlucky in their civilian life experiences that even a modestly attractive woman was a "Model" to them and anything above a "cold fish" in bed warranted a "Once in a lifetime" rating.
or...
2) There was more grade inflation going on here than at a typical preparatory school. Maybe this was to avoid negative feedback. Maybe it was a self-perpetuating thing because an average looking provider was getting 7s and 8s for appearance scores, thus began to expect them from later reviewers.
Just so people don't think I am down on this whole hobby concept, I did have a fun time with each woman I saw. And I am also not claiming to be some studly Adonis myself. I am average looking, but in decent shape from running regularly. In bed, I am a mixed bag, but at least I am always clean and try to be considerate.
In any event, I did eventually come across a beautiful and talented woman that I happily reviewed. I guess I have just begun to take many reviews and provider websites with a large grain of salt. There is a talent to sifting through the chaff. I am working on developing my instincts.
It would just be easier if 5 was really average. I do realize that everyone has different tastes. Unfortunately, if you go into a meal expecting a filet mignon, even the best burger in the world will be less than completely satisfying.
A 6 is taken as harsh. Anything below that and people are calling the Pound!
What you might rate a girl in civvie life vs. here are different. Keep in mind, when you rate a civvie girl, usually she nor the rest of the community know what you are saying about her.
Los Angeles escort was 7.58 and the mean performance score was 8.00.
The mean price for a one-hour incall session was $342.45.
The averages were based on 155 escorts with 20 or more reviews on TER.
Reviewers are handing out much higher numbers than the guidelines would suggest.
I doubt the situation has changed much in the last year.
Hopefully, I'll find the time to do a new report sometime this summer.
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I don't think you would cause any harm by posting a review of her. As long as you are honest in your review so be it. As a provider she should know the value of representing herself honestly. The fault is not yours, but hers. If anything, you are being kind and thoughtful...Good for you!!
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A 7 just ain't that bad when coupled with an 8 or 9 performance. Tell the truth, man! Shallow SOB's (like myself) will avoid the disappointment and the rest of the guys will have a great time.
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be honest
be accurate
be fair
if possible, display a sense of humor and proportion.
No 1 review is going to destroy any reputable, established provider.
Easy answer as it ties in with the reason for the existence of this site and is part of it's mission statement. Reviews are for other hobbyists so that they may have an honest means in which to evaluate providers and whether they wish to see them. While providers are a valuable part of this community, the reviews should be sacred. That is honest and straight forward regarding the lady's looks, attitude and performance. Anything less is a disservice to the rest of us. So if you can't write or evaluate honestly, don't do the review.
you know the rest - do the review and be honest. Why a provider would say a seven - "attractive" is not a good score is beyond me... particularly when a lady with a seven can provide a nine or more in service...
The main things in a review for all concerned is that you are fair honest with a post. Otherwise why bother. If you are fair in your assessment of looks vs pics that is good she shouldn't get bent out of shape over it. She has the ultimate weapon that being to post updated photos and let potential new friends decide for themselves just how beautiful they think she is. Especially true when you also say that proformance was good. The ladies must remember if they want someone to bluff and pad a review for them that it will ultimately catch up with them and it will also catch up with the one that posts a padded review as everyone will soon know that your reviews are not to be trusted.
I have been writing reviews for about 5 years. In all that time (and nearly 40 reviews), I have only given one "10" for appearance. When I search for a new experience, I use 7 as the minmum for both appearance and performance.
I agree. 7 on appearance is highly subjective. Early on I reviewed a 7, see her frequently, and the last time she would have rated an 8. I have seen others I initially rated 8 or 9, but today would be a 7. Life changes. Twenty yrs ago I would have been an 8 male, today most likely a 6. Yes, appearance is an important initial selection criterion, but the bonding, performance, and friendship is the final determinant.
Everything about reviews is subjective. For the hobbyist, we rely on them for their honesty. It is a bit tricky, but ultimately you must decide whether to keep your reputation for honesty or to be too generous to the provider. In the same situation I would do one of two choices. If I planned to see her again, I'd might give her the 8 but put in the review my surprise at her appearance. That way you still convey your true impressions. If I didn't plan to see her again, I'd would just be honest and give her the 7 or whatever I honestly thought.
After reading both this thread and the one earlier linked, I think that I will write the review and give my honest opinion.
Thanks for all the responses!
Jeremy, you are one thoughtful and careful sort of guy.
However, I think you are also too nice for your own good.
You went the extra mile and consummated the date even though she wasn't up to your expectations and I think that is doing more than your share.
I think you should now write an honest review.
I do like your style of thinking. I think the ladies should know that not all the guys are shallow and insensitive when it comes to affairs of the heart.