It's an app you find in the app store on your phone. There is no url.
I have seen providers for about 15 years now. I always wrote honest reviews. I have had a few providers contact me after and get upset, even threatening to blacklist me. But all they had on me was that they didn't like my review of them. I always paid. I was always on time. I always communicated well. I was always well groomed. I was always well behaved. In fact, I have had several providers tell me I am the ideal client because I make everything easy.
Anyhow, a couple of the providers who did not like my honest reviews that exposed them shared this on Mr. Number. And before anyone jumps to assumptions, there is only one thing needed on Mr. Number, your phone number. My name was linked to it, by a provider. And, my TER handle was linked to it, by a provider. Well, someone, likely one of the providers who didn't like my reviews, but it really could be anyone with access to Mr. Number, started to research me online using my phone number. They found my address, family members, where I work, etc... It's really not that hard to find these things with most people if you have a phone numer and their name. Anyone who doesn't want to be discovered, you can start by unlisting yourself on the yellow pages. However, you may still show as a family member to your family members who have not unlisted themselves.
So, this person reached out to me. They threatened to expose my invovment in the industry to my family and job. I was told to pay a $25k ransom if I wanted to not be exposed. I don't have 25k just lying around, and to be honest I had no plan to pay a dime so there was no thought in negotiating. I just ignored them.
They carried through on their threat. A mess was created. I will recover from it. I have taken measures to ensure this doesn't happen again. I have delisted my number. I have changed my TER name. I have created multiple alias, including posting this from one of them. I have taken a break from booking providers, not sure how long or if I will ever return. And if I do return, I probably will not review again.
This all said, Mr. Number seems like a bad resource. What I like about TER is that there are some regulations. Providers can create profiles and see what people write about them. A provider can choose to not allow reviews of them. A provider can dispute a false review and stands a chance to have it taken down. But Mr. Number seems unregulated. I cannot join and see what providers are saying about me. At least not if I am honest about being a client. I cannot ask to be unlisted. I cannot dispute information. And, they allow someone to post a complaint about me based on my review of them being bad? That's it? I have been told by providers they will often ignore these complaints. But that's not enough. My information is still there. And, some providers might not ignore it. I thought the purpose was to weed out scammers, unsafe clients, and the likes. But what's the point of having a purpose if the use of the tool goes unchecked?
Anyway, that's my story. I hope none of you ever have to go through what I have gone through. Be careful.
I don't think it's true, at least on TER, that "A provider can choose to not allow reviews of them."
Last I heard (and unless that's been changed) a "no reviews" policy is grounds for delisting.
By no reviews, I mean delisting.
I am sorry that happened to you. Seems like a nightmare scenario. I have heard of Mr Number but have never seen it.
Extоrtion/blackmail and then folowing through with exposal.
But hey. It doesn't exist according to some.
Oh and giving pii to providers is totally safe
My deepest condolences. You did the right thing and suffered for it dearly. Thank you for the story.
When I read shit like this I know Im doing the right thing. Mongers should never be subjected to this kind of predicament.
A burner number like Google Voice avoids this problem since the number is not associated with a name.
Anyone who doesn't use a service like this or a prepaid phone is foolish.
You are correct, but it's not simple per se. Some providers won't see you if you have an unlisted number. And, if you are to successfully do this, it requires changing your number every so often, otherwise they eventually figure a way out to tie your information to that number. But after what I went through, I would say being okay with the providers who won't see you and changing your number every so often is worth the trouble.
Ten years in I've never met a lady who refused to see me because I used a secondary number. All they care about is if you have reference. So, if you're active you have plenty of reference ladies do not care what number you use. I assume most men use a burner number or second number. It's common sense.
To add onto the thread, never use anything real. Don't use a username similar to your name. Don't use a number that's not a toss away number. Don't use an email that can be linked to you. Not hard to do but 100% worth it.
When I first started, I tried references. It didn’t work out so well. I rarely saw the same lady twice. I sometimes went months between seeing a provider, and we’re talking two, so the second reference could be a lady I saw 6 months ago. They didn’t always remember me. Some just didn’t care and didn’t respond. Then there were the ones I didn’t review well. I wasn’t about to ask them for a reference. I guess giving a reference for another escort was a low priority for them. I think the reference route is much easier if you’re a frequent flyer.
This all works well if you stick with those heavily reviewed. Veteran providers don’t want to be bothered with games. But I got sloppy because occasionally I wanted to try a newbie who hadn’t been with thousands of other guys yet.
You talk about honest reviews, so you should allow us to see them. If you have changed your username as you claim, it shouldn't matter revealing the name he reviews are under. If you are not carrying your old reviews through to your new handle, the people of which you complain cannot find your new info. Just give us your old username and we can look up your reviews on our own. It's difficult to understand how this happened without access to the reviews in question. BTW, TER does not allow multiple aliases, so I hope you misspoke when claiming to have them.
Oh same old CDL hell bent on seeing my username. But it doesn’t work like that. My old username no longer exists on TER. My new one is now attached to the reviews. If I was to post that here, then I’m just being stupid and asking to be figured out. Now, some of the reviews are attached to other alias as well.
These changes are all thanks to TER admin being very helpful. And as for TER not allowing multiple alias, you are almost correct. Once you create one, you cannot create another. However, TER admin can do things you cannot do on your own if they feel inclined. I shared my story and admin helped me.
Now maybe stop playing Sherlock Holmes and believe the story or not. It really makes no difference to me what choice you make.
ONLY if the reviews did not carry forward to your new username. You clarified that you had divine intervention on your aliases. This is new info I did not have from your OP. Consequently, I withdraw my suggestion. However, carrying forward your reviews still leaves a trail to your new username for anyone who had more than a passing interest in your prior reviews. I would have abandoned the prior reviews and started fresh with the new username. Just my opinion. Despite your attitude, I still was able to give you a constructive suggestion based on my experience once I had more info. I hope carrying the reviews forward does not come back to bite you in the ass. Go in peace.
Perhaps you meant that, and that is fine. But your wording didn't exactly say what you're saying now. You started with this, "You talk about honest reviews, so you should allow us to see them." Then you say this, "If you have changed your username as you claim, it shouldn't matter revealing the name (t)he reviews are under." So let's disect this just a little. You first suggest you want to see the reviews. Techically, you can see them. They have not gone away. So, I have to assume you mean me posting in this thread the username attached to these reviews. And, by your second statement, you at this stage assumed those reviews were left with my old username. Let's say that was the case. Can you not see how dumb that would be? That would be outing myself. The very username that was used to expose me, you want me to post here? I'm trying to disconnect from that name, not leave the most obvious trail from that name to the one I am posting with here.
Now to your second point. You're saying you would have just created a new username and left the old one alone. And, I can understand why you would consider this path. But my old username is there on Mr. Number. That's part of what started this mess. By changing the username with the reviews, anyone who sees it on Mr. Number can no longer find it here. Creating this seperation was important to me. And, I certainly could have done both, changed the username and then still create a new account. I didn't do this because I have 6 months of premium access on my current account. Changing my username allows me to keep this premium access. Creating a new account surrenders it. And, by posting with an alias, I'm not exposing my new username that has reviews connected to it. It's intentional that I want no link to my username and this post. So, you can probably see why I wouldn't out my new username with the reviews either.
And, when working with the admins to create numerous alias, I made sure to have any questionable providers spread accross those, and not linked to my actual username. I left the providers on there I felt were the least likely to be shady. This included moving all bad reviews to an alias. But in the end, those reviews are still there for public use, and hopefully can help some on here.
Now, dispite you thinking I have an attitude, I'm not trying to pick a fight here nor give attitude. I'm simply trying to address your points and explain my choices. Perhaps I cam accross a little annoyed (the attitude) because this is not the first time I have been on the receiving end of what comes accross as you casting doubt on others. Hopefully, my response here is toned down enough and you can understand my recent choices.
What they did was blackmail. It's a serious felony and if you have the emails, etc., that back up the charge, and you can find out who they are in real life, you have a case.
I'd advise anyone who faces this to remind the perp that you intend to go to LE and bust them for this if they so much as e even bring up doing such a thing. Some people may not even be aware that it could lead to jail time.
Might be not a bad idea to ask how they want the 25k.maybe you get a btc wallet or drop-off point.
At that point you might wanna alert Leo's.
But I dont know. Alerting Leo's that you were whoring and keeping that secret away from your ur fam and friends....could be tough.
This is a serious federal crime.
The penalties for blackmail (extortion) can vary significantly depending on the specifics of the case and whether it's prosecuted at the state or federal level. Here's a general overview:
Federal Law:
18 U.S. Code § 873 (Blackmail): This covers threats to injure a person's reputation or accuse them of a crime. It carries a penalty of up to one year in prison, a fine, or both.
18 U.S. Code § 875 (Interstate Communications): If the blackmail involves using interstate communications (like phone calls or emails) to extort money, the penalty can be up to 20 years in prison and a fine.
Hobbs Act (18 U.S. Code § 1951): This broader statute covers extortion that affects interstate commerce, and can also carry up to 20 years in prison.
State Laws:
State laws on blackmail vary widely. Some states have specific blackmail statutes, while others prosecute it under extortion or related offenses. Penalties can range from a few years in prison to over 20 years, depending on the severity of the crime and the state's laws.
Factors Affecting Sentencing:
Even within these guidelines, judges have some discretion in sentencing. Factors that can influence the length of a sentence include:
The amount of money involved: Extorting $25,000 is considered a significant amount and could lead to a harsher sentence.
Whether the threat was carried out: Actually carrying out the threat (e.g., releasing damaging information) is likely to be seen as an aggravating factor.
It was all text messages from unlisted numbers. And I deleted them all from my phone. Full disclosure, I have denied everything to those who have been told. Going to LE and making a case out of this would make the lie harder to stick by. Not willing to risk that. It’s already hard enough that not everyone believes me and is making my life more difficult.
Too bad it did happen to you and unfortunately sometimes the more trusting get burned. The lesson to learn is that if you have something to lose by you involvement getting made public you really should not be using a number that directly traces back to you and your real life. Same goes for things like emails.
I think the web site is like a lot of tools or technology, probably made to help but pretty much everything can be misused. So perhaps a lesson for the provider side here is that putting someone's information out on a site like that just because they didn't have a good session might be a bit of over kill if some other bad actor wants to take advantage of it.
I am curious about the site though. It doesn't sound like it is the app that can be used to block spam and other unwanted calls. But maybe this is an aspect of the app that is not mentioned in the short blurbs when searching.
The real phone # is how they got ahold of the info.
So if real number was never used it could have been avoided.
With that said, we arrive at a junction where giving pii can enable the provider to put a real phone number there. This can be done by any vengeful provider. Now I have some faith that most providers don't do it but its still concerning.
As far as the app, my understanding is that it's strictly provider-only app for them to report bad actors. It's a very useful app, the problem as the op has said is its not really checked/regulated so anyone can put any number in and write in any reason whatsoever. So for example retaliation against a bad review or maybe even something said in the forum is possible. Or maybe just some internal argument and number put there in spite.
I'm not even sure how one can regulate that. I don't think it possible really. Therefore best imo is to just have several burner numbers you can cycle through. It sucks but it's better than alternative. And best to not give out pii, but that may be tough to do unless you do agencies.
I believe Mr Number started off as a spam identifier and blocking app, but then the features became useful for girls to report stalkers, shady guys from dates, etc. Which then extended into provider blacklist through word of mouth.
But because anyone can add anything, it's usefulness as a blacklist is limited. I've heard some girls putting guys in there just for ghosting! It should just be for serious offense. An experienced provider would only use it as a data point as a supplement for screening and her own research.
It is the app. There is no actual website. Sorry if I implied that was the case. My understanding is that it’s a subset somehow of the app that requires access be granted. Tbh, I’m not 100% sure how the user end works. I only saw what was written about me because it was one of numerous screenshots used to threaten and then expose me.
I would definitely go back to Mr Number then and let them know someone put information on their site that then resulted in extortion threats, reputational damage and harm to your family life when you have never harmed anyone else. You might ask them if that is the intended use of their app. If not they perhaps need to consider better filters to prevent such use. That might get them to put some checks in place that would make it more difficult for some provider to through a fit about a bad review and post information that doesn't seem appropriate for what the main goal of the app seems to be.
But I also get that you can only go so far if you want to keep things quiet on the home front.
They will remove all of your data on there with one email. They wont even fight it. Just send a request with your name and number and let them scrub their database. I check once a year to see if anyone has posted on me. Had a provider get mad once because I wouldn't pay a deposit when she had no reviews and blast me. Was removed within hours of me sending a request.
Wait... but what is the point then if anyone can just remove themselves from it.
I guess most people just don't know about it?
What is their email address? I was only able to find a support form.
"Remove inaccurate or offensive comments
For businesses and individuals
If inaccurate or offensive comments are being shown on one of your phone numbers in a Hiya-enabled device, you may request that these be removed. Please note, Hiya does not remove accurate comments of spam or fraud."
I wonder if the willingness to remove data is related to GDPR concerns?
Who determines what is "accurate"? That seems ridiculous.
They don't dispute any claims. The point of the app is to track spam numbers. If you just say it is a private number they will basically remove all comments.
Your link is to Hiya. That’s a different app than Mr. Number.
I think that is the company that makes the app (https://sourceforge.net/software/product/Mr.-Number/).
Looks like perhaps the provider was using the Rap Sheet Reverse Call
"...Protect yourself and see who is calling you by simply searching and adding the number to the history and commenting logs. Our robust community warning reports further protect you from unwanted and unwelcome calls. "
So looks like some are largely abusing the tool (yeah, I get sometimes hacking a system to do what it was never really designed to do is nice but in this case, given the results, I think it goes way too far. Perhaps some of the providers here that use the app might want to rethink their actions in using it as some black list or retaliatory tool. I would also think that the system can track not only the phone it is installed on but which phone has put reports up -- which might be self incriminating the provider if someone were to have the same experience but was willing to take it to LE).
If it’s intention is for spam numbers (and that’s what the site says - haven’t checked so just going off what’s in this thread) then they should be running checks to make sure numbers are NOT private. Just allowing anyone to upload any old shit is nefarious to say the least…
I think that is the company that makes the app (https://sourceforge.net/software/product/Mr.-Number/).
Looks like perhaps the provider was using the Rap Sheet Reverse Call
"...Protect yourself and see who is calling you by simply searching and adding the number to the history and commenting logs. Our robust community warning reports further protect you from unwanted and unwelcome calls. "
So looks like some are largely abusing the tool (yeah, I get sometimes hacking a system to do what it was never really designed to do is nice but in this case, given the results, I think it goes way too far. Perhaps some of the providers here that use the app might want to rethink their actions in using it as some black list or retaliatory tool. I would also think that the system can track not only the phone it is installed on but which phone has put reports up -- which might be self incriminating the provider if someone were to have the same experience but was willing to take it to LE).
What is the URL for the site. Whenever I search I just get links to the app you download from the Apple Store or GooglePay Store. Perhaps that is what everyone is talking about and I'm wrong in think it is something else.
I searched the web and found no contact. I assume if you’re doing this you have the app. I do not want to download the app. I’m on a family network with 8 people. Everyone can see if I’ve downloaded an app since we share access to everything.
Well, I don't want to pick on someone when they are down but have to say you might not have really thought this through 
But not like I've never done something that in retrospect has not been a questionable choice. But with you on the don't dig a deeper hole than you're already finding yourself in.
Ya know, we often think we are invincible and it, whatever it may be, won’t happen to us. And for 15 years it didn’t. Then it did.
OK, this post has me very confused. I have never used Mr. Number, I only communicate with gents via email. So....I did some research. This looks to be an app that a person can install on their phone to block calls or texts from someone and also provides caller ID. There is nothing to join. You have to pay for it, but there is no blog or whatever. Mr. Number is for anyone, this is not just for sex workers. If you try to call or text someone and they have you blocked by Mr. Number your call or text will not go through. Are you talking about some other website or app? There is nothing to expose or share on Mr. Number. It is just an app that each person can install on their phone. Each individual person that has it installed on their phone would see if you tried to call them on their call log and what time etc. but no one else can see this, it would just be on their personal phone.
It is 100% Mr. Number. This app has been discussed here in the past. Honestly, I cannot get into the specifics about how you join/get access to the part that is used by providers. Most don't seem to want to share these details. It's like some secret society. Others on here might have successfully pulled this information from a provider and maybe they can share more. Otherwise, you can probably find a provider in your friend network that can share more with you.
There was another website that I was a member of briefly and I found useless, kind of like what you are describing here with Mr. Number. These stupid comments mean nothing to me. I don't care if someone tried to negotiate, asked to not use a condom, or is a pic collector. From my screening I want to know if you are a murderer, a rapist, abuse animals or your wife, or are into kiddie porn. I will take the rest from there. Someone trying to extract money from you is complete bullshit and I hope you do follow up on that legally, but these petty and stupid comments when I see them I roll my eyes and move on. The only thing I keep on file for clients is their email address anyway, I don't want phone #s for your protection and mine. I am very sorry this happened to you and I can tell you the level headed providers are not even going to take this shit into consideration when it comes to booking an appointment with you. I do wish you the best of luck in getting this resolved.
I'll also say you dont even have to be a provider to abuse the system it seems.
Someone could literally input random numbers check that comments are escort related, then check number on Google and if it links to a real person, start an extortion plan. Hell thats an algorithm right there and with many people having access to chatgpt llms for programming it's not that hard to do depending on Mr number request rates, token expiration times, and api exposure.
It's not some "secret society" - you pay for premium and you get access to the number info/comments.
I have a Provider friend that uses Mr. Number. You can write notes on it that others can see. So for instance, If the Monger is a stalker, she can denote that and it can be seen by other Providers.
Did she mention how she limits that visibility to just other providers? From the little I've seen about the app it seems like the comments on the Rap Sheet logs are available to anyone who pays for the premium service.
If it's not limited then providers posting certain information would be a really bad idea and from the story told, enough was posted to make clear an illegal activity was taking place.
Mr Number has a paid option. Once you pay, you are allowed to check and leave comments under numbers.
You're right that it's a spam blocker etc. Ie it's not a tool inherently done for providers. It's a tool providers can use to check number history. And clients can (and do) leave comments too.
See images I linked as examples I took from hfh community (iykyk)
But because it seems as if each comment is anonymous with no history the potential for аbuse seems high.
http://i.imgur.com/c5HI5Q4.png
http://i.imgur.com/O2lfaUa.png
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I assume that is just the comments after entering some phone number to look up. That the number of the person entering the comment is not listed makes sense given the actual purpose of the app but I would be very surprised if system or app logs do not have a record of the account and phone that submitted the comment. That would be bad for the company behind the app and probably the app itself if people just wanted to have fun abusing numbers -- like the local number of City Hall or the Police Department or some kids high school teacher or just the out of the click person the gang wants to pick on.
If so then all these providers that are putting those comments up are leaving a blatant trail of evidence that they engage in providing prostitution sex services. Not too smart.
Sure they might have your device ID, but what are they going to do?
You can easily sign up with a fake number which would require a subpoena from the company that provides fake numbers.
And as far as "If so then all these providers that are putting those comments up are leaving a blatant trail of evidence that they engage in providing prostitution sex services"
I think it's a complete nonfactor. Providers are openly posting their numbers on ter profiles and nothing happens to them.
A random comment that anyone could write on Mr number, would be so difficult to prove and indict for, that I think no one will attempt to do this.
Really? If they have the device ID and the sim info tracing the location is a piece of cake. The US telcos have been handing over that type of information to LE for years without even asking for a warrant. And, yes, no on is getting charged off any statement like that but not to hard to setup a sting with that info. Not too difficult to map the movement patters and to correlate to other real world info if someone is not expressly trying not to be tracked.
Will anyone who cares ever notice that type of activity and is the company doing any searching. Low chance, probably as low as if you gave a K-agency your work and real phone number and have them do something bad with it. But the story told in this thread is that everything is fine until it isn't. But at that point you really cannot do anything about it.
What is the url of Mr Number?
It's an app you find in the app store on your phone. There is no url.
I found 2 reports on my burner number related to sub-par reviews I left (nothing insulting, just honesty about my experience) and one of the providers posted my name and email address as well.
Mr. Number removed it after I contacted their support, but my info was exposed for a month.
Worth checking it occasionally if ladies are this vindictive.
I'm sorry you got into it with bad apples. Contact support and they will help you.
I did a catering job about a year ago. The shade of pale pink (frosting) wasn't pale enough. Mind you it was almost fucking white.
She and all of her friends posted horrible reviews on this app. I changed all of my business information and my phone number. Then I reached out to the powers that be and they handled it.
I contacted Mr. Number. It took about a week. But I did get the comments removed. Only if I knew about them before I was threatened and the damage was done. At least this should stop it from happening again.
So I checked my fun number due to this happening to you. Someone made up a lie about me. I asked Mr Number to take it down. They did so within two days. Crazy vindictive people 😂
Did you pay for the service or was triаl version enough to see the comments?
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