She and I are on the same page about many things in life. We've talked about SCUBA trips, 3somes, hiking and biking adventures, camping, maintaining boundaries, wines, chocolate and a myriad of other things.
So even though we've seen each other for 22 sessions (usually 2-3 hours each time) over the last four years, I'll keep seeing her as long as it works for both of us.
ATF = All-Time Fuck
Providers or clients can answer this one, it's an open question to both genders.
Of course, the easiest and most obvious answers are 'the money' or 'the sex', but try to delve a tiny bit deeper than that. Mostly every client gives money for sex to the provider, and mostly every provider gives sex for money to the client, so almost any client can get sex for money from almost any provider, and almost any provider can get money for sex from almost any client. What is that something special about you that your ATF likes?
Mind you, the question is not "what is it that YOU like about your ATF"; it's the other way around. Also, if you have or have had more than one ATF, you may give an answer for each one if you want to.
what it is that a particular provider likes about him. So, all I can do is surmise.
I do know what it isn't however. For example, no one is going to mistake me for George Clooney.
Likewise, I'm not Mr. Big-bucks, and I don't run the world from City Hall. Likewise I have not been nominated for any awards such at the Nobels, Tonys, Oscars, Emmys, Grammies, etc. Not even a Clio, for cripes sake.
So, what is it? Well, I like to listen to people and help them out with their problems if that is possible. That is a thing that many people lack, but I seem to be good at it to judge from how many people have told me this. I was not always this way either. A therapist I saw for many years instructed me on how to do this. He said that is would help to build lasting relationships. He was right.
I guess it also doesn't hurt that I give long deep pressure massages to the gals I see. They seem appreciative of it, and I enjoy doing it.
I guess what is telling is that I still see 3 or so gals who have officially retired but continue to see me on account of our relationship.
Make no mistake about it. Deep, caring, and trusting relationships are the finest asset (for want of a better word) that you'll ever have. Treat them like gold.
what it is that a particular provider likes about him.
Indeed mrfisher, you nailed it. I have found this to be very true.
What I mean is that we never really know for sure, because one can not be 100% certain what is going on in the mind of another.
But you're right, if very often a certain positive behavior bears fruit, then that is enough to use as a guide.
"fruits", I only want to see women. Will it still work?
She and I are on the same page about many things in life. We've talked about SCUBA trips, 3somes, hiking and biking adventures, camping, maintaining boundaries, wines, chocolate and a myriad of other things.
So even though we've seen each other for 22 sessions (usually 2-3 hours each time) over the last four years, I'll keep seeing her as long as it works for both of us.
She and I are on the same page about many things in life. We've talked about SCUBA trips, 3somes, hiking and biking adventures, camping, maintaining boundaries, wines, chocolate and a myriad of other things.
So even though we've seen each other for 22 sessions (usually 2-3 hours each time) over the last four years, I'll keep seeing her as long as it works for both of us.
I think they would say I always treat them, and their time, with respect, and that they feel safe in my company at all times. That allows them to be themselves with me, while also knowing anything they tell me of a personal nature wont leave the room and that they wont be judged for anything out of the ordinary they may divulge. At least that is what I would think they would say. 
I think they would say I always treat them, and their time, with respect, and that they feel safe in my company at all times. That allows them to be themselves with me, while also knowing anything they tell me of a personal nature wont leave the room and that they wont be judged for anything out of the ordinary they may divulge. At least that is what I would think they would say.
I think that she likes that I know her likes, dislikes and desires (and she mine) because we’ve known each other so long, professionally and also as friends. I know how she likes to be touched, kissed, fucked. I know where her tight spots are when we massage each other. I know her interests and what topics she likes (and doesn’t like) to discuss. I know what she likes to eat and drink. I know how to make her laugh.
I think that she likes that I know her likes, dislikes and desires (and she mine) because we’ve known each other so long, professionally and also as friends. I know how she likes to be touched, kissed, fucked. I know where her tight spots are when we massage each other. I know her interests and what topics she likes (and doesn’t like) to discuss. I know what she likes to eat and drink. I know how to make her laugh.
This ATF thing is pretty childish. I think the term REGULAR encompasses the way I truly feel about seeing someone on a consistent basis...
That being said, I would have no clue why someone prefers to see me on regular basis other than the most obvious - an envelope full of the donation amount. Why would I even ask that question, especially when it comes across as if I am seeking some form of a justification. for them not objecting to my company.
Dude.. That shit is complicated. I don't even think that way.
one regular tell me that I'm always a sweetheart to her and that we have fun together.
I hope this is the same shared sentiment with the other regulars I see because that's how I approach every date. They always seem excited whenever I schedule another date with them so who knows if that's it or something else.
If one isn’t respectful and having fun, then maybe find something else to do.
That something different always happens with me. I'm not a "normal date" as some have said. I set the tone early with gifts, and I create a certain ambience that most aren't accustomed to and that draws their anticipated curiosity . I'm an old soul with a youthful heart. And there's something, crazy about hitting a Fatburger on the Vegas strip at 4am, or wings at the Cosmo.....who does that?
get older doesn't mean you have to grow up. I'm the same way, but I don't do gifts except on Birthdays, Valentines Day and Christmas. Fun and spontaneous will make you a welcome customer with most ladies, in my experience. Its a bonus when she is YOUR ATF and you are her favorite customer, too. It can last for years.
My ATF had a very particular way that worked for her to reach a full orgasm. I learned how to do it and even did edging with her.
When I got to the point where I could feel her build and let her down and then bring her back up again, her orgasms were incredibly intense. But that’s just sexual compatibility. What was important to her was that I listened to her and was willing to do things her way when the time was right.
But then there was that time we had a fight.
There was a well known monger that also saw her and knew that I saw her a lot. He managed to convince her he knew me (which he did not) and that we were friends (you see it coming, right?). And then proceeded to tell her I told him she gave me certain “special services” which everybody knew were off limits for her. And tried to force the issue when she refused. She kicked him out but..
When she saw me next I could see I was in trouble. As the yelling was dying down I figured out what and who she was talking about. I explained to her that I didn’t know him other than as a guy who posted on the board. I also explained that I neither liked or trusted him. So, I never DMd or even responded directly to him. And I never revealed to anyone anything other than what was written in my reviews of her (which I showed to her).
Yes, the above took some time. And, yes, she yelled more than a little and pounded my chest in anger.
But then we had make up sex. Gentle, sweet, “I’m sorry I misunderstood” make up sex that then turned into the wildest, most passionate sex ever. And went way, way over our allotted time.
After that, the usual barriers between provider and client pretty much disappeared over the next several visits as she realized I truly wasn’t hiding anything and I wasn’t running away either.
I think it is highly unlikely that circumstances such as I described above will ever happen with any other provider. So, even though she is now retired, that little girl will always remain my ATF.
wow male ego on display ... while a girl might be YOUR ATF .. who is to say you are HER ATF
you really think she still sees you because of your DATY skills ... or great conversation ... or listening ... try asking for just ONE meeting without a donation and see.
i have found that as long as a gentleman has good hygiene, is polite and respectful and has a full thick throbbing ....wallet, a girl will see you as often as you wish.
i have had long time wonderful meetings with some great ladies but lets get some reality back in the picture. you want to know if you are really special, see if she will do an overnight for a 1 hour donation if yes great and congratulations .. if not ... well ...........
is looking for some positive reinforcement from the provider to validate his own impression that he is a stud. Even though he's paying her for it, he wants to believe its the real deal. A little shallow, but whatever works for him is okay as long as it doesn't negatively impact someone else, right?
You can relate to being a little shallow. Ok, you are more that a little shallow with all of your muses and prose on the boards. Your VERY BIG, BIG, BIG OCEAN is actually a puddle. Don't splash anyone. Remember that you too are a "former" and though are considered a "has been" you have most recently been re-classified as a "never was"
Be classy and respectful...AND....concentrate on her pleasure as well! (That's an added bonus that will get you points-a lot of providers say that they're all about servicing the client but they have needs just like we do).
Finally, a good personality and sense of humor will never let you down. There isn't a woman alive (provider or civvie) who won't respond genuinely to a man who can make her laugh!!
Marilyn Monroe even said it--her direct quote: "If you can make a woman laugh you can make her do anything."
Of course, without the proper donation all these pointers go right out the window ROTFLMAO!!!
I can lick my eyebrows
The comfort of knowing I like her and what I like and that I try to please her a little and notbe a complete deviant ( in a way she doesn’t like)… and the “trust” we’ve built up allowing us to call “audibles” (if some issue arises) without drama or doubt… and ofc my son $ is dependable.
...all the compliments and flattery I've received from providers over the years, I'm well aware that it's part of their job description as companions to make me feel comfortable and good about myself during the time we spend together beyond just making me feel good physically.
If I really was as "handsome" with a "sexy body" as often as I've been told with "who would divorce you?" thrown in for good measure, I'd be Brad Pitt in real life, and when I'm in the company of providers, they're doing a great job cause that's how they make me feel.
In the end it doesn't even matter that the things they say aren't real because I'm paying them for the fantasy. As another member pointed out, if I really was all those things and the provider really liked me so much, then I wouldn't need to be paying her for her services, but of course I am.
I'll do my part to make the experience as easy for her as possible by being a gentleman and generous and respectful and pleasant and fun, but I don't delude myself that this isn't a profession for her and likely one that she wouldn't engage in if she didn't need the money or enjoyed the lifestyle that the money provided her.
I don't know how many providers who after they felt comfortable enough with me or perhaps after they found out more about me and would ask me for investment advice tell me, "I don't want to be sucking dick forever."
And that in itself should tell you everything. She isn't "willing" to keep seeing you because of anything you're doing. She's continuing to see you because of what SHE wants to do, and "sucking [your] dick" is just the means of how she's getting there.
I didn’t read the OP as asking why the provider is “willing” to see you. I read it as asking what your ATF likes about you other than just your money.
Now, I suppose you could be cynical and say that all providers only like their client’s money. And I’m sure this is true in many cases. But I think that there is a secondary reason a particular client’s long term ATF *might* like him. Though there is simply no way of being sure. Unless you actually can read women’s minds.
I have been a non-client friend of more than a couple of providers. Most of those I have known do have clients that they genuinely like for one reason or another.
So, I think it’s an interesting question to explore what mongers think it might be that their ATFs like about them other than just their money.
...that it's an interesting topic, and I wasn't actually trying to imply that there wouldn't be any reasons for a provider or someone's ATF to like their client besides money lol, only that those reasons wouldn't be the reasons why she would "keep" on seeing him.
Now as to whether we can actually believe or not the things our ATFs tell us, my reply was purely from the point of my own perspective, and not anyone else's. I certainly can't speak for anyone else, but for myself, I'm inclined to think that the providers I've seen were just doing their jobs when they said all those overly nice things to me.
Having said that, I can't remember the last time I enjoyed some DATY that the provider didn't exclaim that I'm "so good at that!" or that I have a "bomb mouth!" so maybe it's true, I'm an expert pussy licker and that's why she likes me, but who really knows LOL!
Phony compliments annoy me. I don't like being buttered up. My fantasy is a chick who has to have cock, any cock. I can give her mine and not have to concern myself with living up to any other standards she may have in mind.
Only one ATF, and is a current ATF, shared with me what she likes about our encounters. I am a breast man, love and worship the girls. ATF complements my nipple and breast play.
Now that is one person's opinion with one pair of breasts. I cannot speak for any of my other ATF's.
I don't have an ATF, since I hobby once every few months on average. But providers complimented me for knowing how to be discreet, throwing the Karens off scent, dressing in what looks like work clothes, and picking out good pre-session waiting spots. In other words, now throwing them under the bus by being negligent. For example, carrying a bag from a grocery store (with wine in it) as I walk into the provider's building, wearing a nice dress shirt, and standing at a bus stop a block away while waiting to get the room/apartment number. (I hobby exclusively in the city, but I'm aware that bus stops aren't an option in most suburbs.) Basically, providers feel safe seeing me, because they know I won't do anything stupid that gets them negative attention. One provider I saw in a hotel told me that one of her past hobbyists actually went to the front desk and asked for her by her stage name and room number.
Also I bathe regularly and before each appointment and bush my teeth often and other desired hygiene item, plus I am respectful and don't push boundaries. Honestly it is the wallet being full of cash.
full of cash will create a more impressive "bulge" in your pants than the "other." Lol
If I were to guess, I think it’s because she finds me funny and likes the corny jokes I tell her. Sometimes she’s just really enjoying herself when I take her out and spend some quality time with her in situations that don’t involve me fucking her. Of course, I’m also paying by the hour, so maybe she’s just laughing because half the time she just has to eat food and pretend to find my corny jokes funny lol.
She tells me I’m the only guy she sees that she doesn’t have to fake an orgasm with. Apparently I’m extremely talented when it comes to DATY.
Sometimes, she’s even calls me to come over after she’s had an especially unsatisfying experience with another monger that left her feeling really horny. When that happens, she doesn’t even charge me her short notice fee! 😂
in the phrase "short notice fee" but I haven't figured out the punchline yet. Lol
a gal ups her fee after she notices that your dick is short?
OK, not the greatest, but I wrote this on "short notice".
Now I'll go stand in the corner and think about what I just did.
We could both be joke writers for comedians nobody ever heard of. Lol
a prostitute tells you you are the only one? Lol!
Oh my apologies ... you believe it! So why shouldn’t we? Huh?
BTW, do you pay her on this short notice calls ? and I am not talking about the short notice fee! If she charges you then your story is credible because it is just a sales tactic for her and you are just incredibly naive!
I would have to say Attitude, Connection & Being comfortable around each other.
I would have to say Attitude, Connection & Being comfortable around each other.
I would have to say Attitude, Connection & Being comfortable around each other.
I get invited to her family birthday parties and special occasion events. I guess she must really like me. I like her too. 😍😍😍
An ATF of mine said she likes the way I am gentle when I touch her … that it feels it is her own hand touching her. She doesn’t like it when clients grope and maul her, or are rough in any way (who can blame her).
Being gentle however earns her trust, and literally her entire body becomes an erogenous zone for her when she fully trusts someone. It’s quite amazing, for both of us.
An ATF of mine said she likes the way I am gentle when I touch her … that it feels it is her own hand touching her. She doesn’t like it when clients grope and maul her, or are rough in any way (who can blame her).
Being gentle however earns her trust, and literally her entire body becomes an erogenous zone for her when she fully trusts someone. It’s quite amazing, for both of us.