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Re: Unfortunately, some clients are not worth repeating. Utter BSangry_smile
numbnuts11 313 reads
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BTW, I pay you for your time. I would rather you tell me at the door, before taking my donation, that you don't appreciate clients who make you work for their money. It's girls like you that give providers a bad name.

This happened to me last week with a provider (of FBSM) --call her C -- who I've seen 4 times this year. She gave no reason -- just texted (that is the only way to communicate with her) that "No I'm not going to see u at all. thanx" when I asked if I she was available the next day. Was she simply not available that day? No: she posted a BP ad that day for a special rate.  I sent her another text yesterday, but no reply, and she updated her BP this evening, so she is checking her messages.

What made her change her mind??? It makes no sense to me!

Here is some more of the story. I don't know what is relevant and what isn't, so bear with me....

In July I tried to see her when I visited her city, but on very short notice, so it did not work out. So this time, I tried to set up something a few days in advance, but she did not respond at first. When she did, she said "I might not be free" at the time I suggested.  Then when I asked about the next day, she responded as described.

Because C had not responded at first, I tried contacting a another provider (K) who req'd screening. So I gave C as a reference for K. I never heard from K. I also called another FBSM provider that week a couple times and no one ever answered, and emailed another, with no response (but she has had no BP ads for 3 weeks). And no one returned my phone message from a MP in another city the week before. Is this all just coincidental? These providers are well-reviewed on TER.

One more item, for full disclosure: I've seen a local FBSM provider (in a MP) 4 times now. The last time I saw her (last week) she seemed to think that I had  underpaid her the previous time. The misunderstanding seems to be cleared up now. (This is long enough, so I will skip the details.) I will see her again in a week or two.

Am I just paranoid, or does this sound like I could have been (mistakenly) blacklisted? What should I do? Should I try to contact the one who won't see me again to find out why?

Who knows. She is a woman so you will probably never find out! lol Maybe you pissed her off and did not know it. Best thing to do is just forget about her and move on to someone else. Hopefully you are in an area wgere there are many to choose from.
    I tried to see someone once and they told me my phone # was blacklisted as LE. I have been seeing providers since then and no one else has mentioned it. I think it was someone that I left a mediocre review for and she did not like it. Speaking of which,if you have seen her 4 times why havent you reviewed her?
     

Short_Bus_Driver384 reads

You asked to see her and she said she is not going to see you at all. Then you asked her for an appointment for the very next day, and you want to know why she won't see you? Then you sent her another text asking for an appointment......someone is perhaps a fewwwwwwwww fingers short of a high 5.

HAS IT EVER OCCURRED TO YOU THAT YOU ARE BEING A SERIOUSLY BONA-FIDE WEIRDO?

How much clearer can she possibly be? "No I'm not going to see u at all. thanx" is a nice way of telling you to BEAT IT! ( like for real BEAT IT)

Then to further aggravate the lady you use her as a reference? And you want to know why the other lady never called you back?

HELLOOOOOOOO YOU ARE BEHAVING LIKE YOU CANNOT COMPREHEND THE NICE VERSION OF "GET LOST"

Posted By: Short_Bus_Driver
You asked to see her and she said she is not going to see you at all. Then you asked her for an appointment for the very next day, and you want to know why she won't see you? Then you sent her another text asking for an appointment......someone is perhaps a fewwwwwwwww fingers short of a high 5.

HAS IT EVER OCCURRED TO YOU THAT YOU ARE BEING A SERIOUSLY BONA-FIDE WEIRDO?

How much clearer can she possibly be? "No I'm not going to see u at all. thanx" is a nice way of telling you to BEAT IT! ( like for real BEAT IT)

Then to further aggravate the lady you use her as a reference? And you want to know why the other lady never called you back?

HELLOOOOOOOO YOU ARE BEHAVING LIKE YOU CANNOT COMPREHEND THE NICE VERSION OF "GET LOST"

Your response is an example of how easy it is to be misunderstood. It is not at all like you read it.... so should I try to clarify it to you? Or just forget it? That was the whole point of my post--how to deal with a misunderstanding.

A quote from Rambo,"Let it Go"
Please don't try to clarify,we will only become more confused!!
FYI,find another lady to fuck!

I would say it sounds as though you've been blacklisted. Or at the very least C did indeed 'reference' you to K, but it wasn't a good one.

Mistakenly though? Doubtful. C responded to your text and told you she wouldn't see you again. Presumably she had her reasons.

The logical conclusion here is that you said or did something that offended her, and she no longer wants to see you because of it. You can contact her and ask her to tell you waht you did wrong, but I wouldn't recommend holding your breath until you get an answer.

Over the years there have been a number of providers I've seen and felt I would always be n their good graces, then I could never get them to respond.

The reasons will always remain a mystery I fear.

It comes with the territory.

You should first quit bothering the ladies that have turned you down. They are not interested in seeing you and likely will not answer your questions regarding whats up. If you are blacklisted you are powerless to fix it anyway. The blacklist sites don't work like TER you can't get delisted nor can you try to get the blacklisting pulled. If you have been blacklisted you are basically screwed and not in a good way.

Penis Captivis Girl389 reads

I have few clients I saw many times in the past --- but they are such a pain, in the sense of requiring too much of work to make them orgasm --- that I did refuse other appointments.
I decided not to see them anymore because why on earth I am going to spend a hour exhausting myself with a hard to please guy IF --- for the same rates --- I can spend time with an easy going, pleasant and fun fellow?
You are not blacklisted, but you should move on, book other ladies, and not use her as reference anymore because certainly she is not giving glowing ones about you.


numbnuts11314 reads

BTW, I pay you for your time. I would rather you tell me at the door, before taking my donation, that you don't appreciate clients who make you work for their money. It's girls like you that give providers a bad name.

SoundOfaPinDropping276 reads

Hello, McFly!!

She said that she will not see them again because they are too much trouble.  How is that not her choice?  Yes, if she takes your money, she should do her job as well as possible.  But that is not what she said.

She said that she will not see them again.  Period.  In other words, she is telling them BEFORE they get to her door and BEFORE she takes their money, that she would rather they find someone else.

How difficult is that to understand?

literbike270 reads

Posted By: numbnuts11
BTW, I pay you for your time. I would rather you tell me at the door, before taking my donation, that you don't appreciate clients who make you work for their money. It's girls like you that give providers a bad name.
She is actually doing those clients a favor by not seeing them again..she saw them once...did her job but has chosen, under the criteria that they are too much work for her (BTW she has that right) and will not see them again. I too, have done that. If I can earn the same money doing things a little less stressfully, I will.

If you had the choice in your line of work, are you telling me you'd take the harder route when other less taxing opportunities are there for the taking?Especially if the choice was whether or not to repeat with that client or task?

She gives providers a good name. She did what was needed and then made a decision that benefits that client in that he will not receive less than expected service for his individual needs.

Lastly, but certainly not least, every provider has the choice to see whom ever they wish, for whatever reason.

A provider who decides not to see a particular hobbyist -- no matter her reason -- is doing him a very important favor. She is making his time and money available for a provider who WILL want to see him.

Keep in mind that a hobbyist who is hard work for one provider might be an absolutely ideal client for another. There is no accounting for the impact of dozens of intangibles.

This same thing applies in reverse. When I decide not to see a particular provider, it is to her benefit. I have decided either that I wouldn't enjoy her or that she wouldn't enjoy me. (which equates to the same thing) By not seeing her, I have freed her up for an appointment that would hopefully be more productive for her.

John, a simple point but one it seems many don't get.  Unlike so many businesses this one works far better when both people enjoy seeing each other.

Thanks for the feedback, especially about not being blacklisted! That is a relief. And I will do as you suggest. Thanks again.

Radcow201 reads

Interesting set of circumstances, but could it be that you left a shit stain? I mean, it's her prerogative and I would move on. Was she so special that you can't find anyone else? If a provider is uncomfortable with you for any reason, cut your losses and move on.

You're wasting your time and hers. If you continue, it's only going to piss her off more, and you won't have to wonder if you're blacklisted or not. She said that she's not going to see you, and then wouldn't respond to your subsequent texts. Put it behind you. It's not worth the effort of worrying about it. Don't use her as a reference, as you already know how that's going to work out.

Posted By: wingate
What made her change her mind??? It makes no sense to me!
How many times have you made that exact same statement regarding something having to do with a civie woman? About a million times? LOL

While I can talk about evolutionary psychology, tons of studies and all that jazz; for the most part, from the perspective of men, women are incomprensible black boxes whose behavior is unpredictable and inexplicable.

In this respect providers and civies -- both being female -- are quite similar.

She could change her mind for a million reasons ranging from a shorted donation or poor cleanliness to the fact you remind her too much of her cousin Zeke. There can even be factors that don't pertain to you directly -- like that her boyfriend got a gander at you, found you threatening and told her not to see you anymore.

The benefit of P4P is that unlike with civie relationships, it is not at all crucial that you figure it out. That's why you are paying. You are paying to bypass all that incomprehensible and inexplicable stuff.

So all you can do ... is do everything you can to be the most ideal hobbyist possible going forward ... and move along to the next lady. And relax -- don't worry.

You might find the "John Galt Two Call Rule"(tm) useful: you make two attempts at contact and if they both fail, your next call is to someone else.

Maybe he should consider the complete package that comes with a preliminary wash!  (*grin*)

Maybe he has the "Hint of Tuna",,,LOL!!!

and seeing small wads a dirty tp stuck in the guys crack with the odor poopie doopie ewwwwww  EWWWWWWWW LOL so for all you massage lovers  please remember to wash your bum  thanks and cum again

and WHY OH WHY do some guys insist on using TP to wipe the tip after they wash in the sink or pee?  If you do this please check to make sure you are not leaving TP behind on the head of your cock.  This happens over and over and trying to discreetly remove it without being insulting by drawing attention can be difficult.

Dear Sage:
When rebuffing the request of a repeat customer, would you give him a reason if you thought that he could handle it? Also what would be your policy with respect to this phase of discontinuing to see a regular or repeat client.

OMG,,that is way,way,gross!!!
I said it once and i'll say it again,i don't know how you ladies do it???(provide,that is)

"Hi Honey, Did I do or say something to offend you?", you have no choice but to move on.  Just try to be more of a gentleman than you have been before.

Asshole_Number_one171 reads

We have finally found a poster even dumber than dungman. rofl

Damn,i wanted to be #1 in the dumb department!
Ya mean he took my place!!!!!

Re: So what is TP....

Happy Wipes.

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