In a thread about who controls the "Hobby" (my answer to that as if anyone cares: no one need to 'control' it.  It doesn't require some fierce oversite committee or ruling body that says this that or the other is the standard. To my mind it is like asking who controls a dance, the man may lead but the woman does things to let him know where to lead her...no one "controls" it...and that is why it works, that is what a dance is beautiful...as soon as one or the other attempts control is when it is no longer fluid, it when it becomes stilted and contrived, it is the attempt at controlling the other party that ruins the dance.)

One poster brought up the idea that the ladies control certain aspects one of which he had mentioned before, and was apparently the impetus for that thread on who controls the 'hobby'.

He seemed to have issue with the TACO (Time And Companionship Only), he argued against it being about time but that it was about service, and that the line about time was only BS to protect against LE and ladies needed to stop kidding themselves.
This made me think how do the guys really want this "hobby" to play.

Despite the rather negative conclusion by the poster in that thread I would venture to guess most clients like the time model of fee over the service model.  

The time model would be, you pay for an hour you get an hour, if you can finish three times in that hour, congrats you get to...if you can only finish once in that hour congrats you get to, if you can't perform so instead just want the lady cuddle and caress you and make you feel good about you congrats you get to.  
If it takes a HJ, BJ, CG, RCG, Doggie and finish with another BJ great if it can all happen within the hour.  That is what paying for time means...you pay for and hour you get an hour.

Paying for service would be more of an ala carte menu.  So much for a HJ, add more for a BJ, more for FS, more for each position, and more for the second BJ finish...or it could be pay for the finish, so...you get excited pop 13 minutes in her company and your "hour" is done because you were paying for a pop, not time.  The old "one and done" which from what I can glean from posts and reviews is actually frowned upon, as is the upsell of the ala carte menu.

The only time that pay per service is in the clients favor would be if he popped a ED drug and couldn't finish, then no matter how long he took he could pay for the one finish....though it would still be a bad pricing structure for him if it were the ala carte model for service as well as one pop.

Seems to me the "TACO" model of fee structure is the only one that is most fair to both parties, the client and the lady. She gets paid for her hour he gets to do all he can, within reason of course, within that hour.

So, are the ladies kidding themselves as the one poster stated?  Should pay be based on service? or is it the time that you are paying for?  Which do you prefer?  Which do think fair to both parties?
Do you care if it is fair to both parties or do you just want it fair to you in that you want to control how it shifts so you benefit and damned be the other party involved?  

The poster did also make the argument that if it is based on the time structure then ROBs technically fulfilled their responsibility...how many of you have ever had a ROB actually stay the entire hour so she can claim you got the full time?  *smirk*  He also made mention of the weighted ratings for certain activities on this site, but I have always said that made no sense, that actually obfuscated performance scores...so I shall refrain from going over that again...for now. *smile*

pays for features, but buys benefits.

Why the distinction?

All products have features.  They are what ever the manufacturer feels is necessary to get a product to the market.

The customer has to distinguish between those features that are of benefit to him and those that are not.  In the end, he buys if he determines that the benefits outway the cost; the features themselves are not a concern.

So in this business, the provider sells her time, but we buy the benefits after doing our research.

My lawyer provides a service and he charges by the hour. More service = more hours. He costs a little less than a good provider, but he's not nearly as much fun.

Thanks for bringing this up again, Webby and for your thoughtful explanation.  If someone wants to pay for service, there are legal brothels in Nevada that offer such.  You should expect to pay more for them becuase the house takes half of what the lady negotiates, and cab/limo drivers also get a sizable chunk off the top of whatever the lady gets, so she is going to be charging a whole lot more.  However, if this is about "service", then please go there and find out how that market functions.

Awesome way to put it MrFisher!  You must have been a teacher in another life, 'cuz that was put short, succintly, and in a manner that even the most daft should understand! (sounds of applause).

Actually a palm reader friend of Bev's just told me that I was probably a pharoah of ancient Egypt.

I hope my rabbi doesn't find out!  8o)

But that's just between you and me.

But that's just between you and me.

But that's just between you and me.

that we should fall down and worship as you walk by? (big smile) Or perhaps erect a pyramid in the desert in your name? (wink,wink)  Wait...there is the Luxor in Las Vegas...was that for you?  LOL

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um tut sut.

8o)

I didn't say I was advocating "service/acts" based model AT ALL, anywhere.  I was saying that I don't buy that it should be a TIME-ONLY-WITHOUT-SERVICES-CONSIDERED model like some try to espouse.  What I call a "pure escort" experience where no sex is involved or required or expected - just time with a pretty gal.  That is fine for LE, wink wink, but not in reality.

I said that only a very tiny % of the market is after or involved with that model.  Most expect a time-based-plus-service model where it is UP-TO-ONE-HOUR ( or however long you book for ) with other activities being required&expected.  Your TACO model. Preferably, as many and much as the client wants within the "services menu" that the provider does/provides.

I never proposed a "per pop" or "per act" model, to me that is what upsell rip-offs use and I consider it a distasteful ploy.  And if the appt is done and the client couldn't or wouldn't or didn't want to finish even once, that is okey-dokey as long as he had the chance and opportunity to get the treatment and services/acts they mutually expected/offered.

Obviously, if the client/hobbyist wants no sex that is fine.  But most of us are not just interested in friendship and companionship or eye-candy ONLY for an hour or two or 4...  There are obviously a lot of other things desired and done during appointments/sessions, chatting and pillow talk and intimacy and friendliness etc. etc.  It isn't about 60 min of nonstop f-in, for most!  But no sex when it is requested and desired and expected is more like wife-experience, NO?  Just trying to lighten it up!  LOL

I have know that for a long time .

Thank You
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I swear it wasn't my idea to make bricks without straw.

It was Nathan, yeah, that's the ticket, Nathan.

Go kill him.

If i do that , then where will i get my hot dogs ????
And do not say Oscar, Mr. Mayer has been baned from coney island and YANKEE stadium.

Thank You
2007=27