Perhaps I should say "...chances are they would be more serious"
a. P411 is not well known in general (sometimes not even on TER!!). A provider posting there likely has been in the business for a while and but looking for a safer way to validate clients, often without the headache of screening B. It's not easy for them to get approved (at least it used to be the case) so they need to be willing to put up with the hassle of submitting their application. C. If they have OKs, it means they see real clients who are also on P411. P411 is not a review site itself so no way to know if the UTR is any good without reviews elsewhere so it can still be a YMMV situation.would you visit a provider who has no reviews, charges a VIP/premium price but has a great looking website with great pics?
rather than a simple yes or no, a reason behind your answer would be appreciated.
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If she has no history of online presence and/or I cannot find any one referencing her name/alias/number... no way. Website and pics can be doctored or straight up stolen.
If she has legit online history but no reviews, it's also iffy since you'd think if one had enough history one would have at least one review or something.
Overall if I'm dealing with a non-agency girl, I don't think Ill ever go for someone with zero reviews. The odds simply aren't in my favor there. I have to roll a fie on it being a non-sc@m situation and then roll a die again to have her pics match and then roll a die to see if I like her without any previous knowledge.
there would have to be recommendation from a monger friend that I have traded intel with on a regular basis, likes the same types of girls that I like, and has proven himself reliable with past recommendations. Otherwise, I will wait for some reviews.
Yep ! All that is implied..
Sometimes I like to live on the edge and I enjoyed venturing into the unknown. I could sense what her deal is after a few text or just a talk on the phone. I found it to be more of an rush, which I kinda enjoyed.
Overall. I've had pretty good luck.
Same here…love the rush of the unknown…..but most of the time I rely on my 4-5 regulars, who cater to my desires!
I see one provider with no reviews, big mistake, she required a two hour minimum at 500.00 an hour , I was very disappointed, she was terrible, so never again, and the sad part was she was beautiful, but I could tell she didn’t enjoy what she was doing I guess that’s why she disappeared or maybe some sugar’s daddy came along!Lol
If she's on p411 with no reviews, website, etc, then she may be a UTR hidden gem. They often have a no review policy but being on p411 means they're serious. Although they can hide how many OKs they have, if you can see that, even better.
Admittedly this is rare but it does happen, whether they're local or travelling.
What makes you say being on p411 means they're serious?
I tend to side with many who posted on this thread, I would not dare venture out anymore to those who have no reviews. In the past, I have met with a couple of providers who had no reviews and always turns out to be a disappointment. But agree as well I would meet with a provider who has no reviews but was recommended by a fellow hobbyist.
I also had bad experiences with providers who tend to be YMMV.
BTW, what is a "monger"? Is that just another word for hobbyist?
Perhaps I should say "...chances are they would be more serious"
a. P411 is not well known in general (sometimes not even on TER!!). A provider posting there likely has been in the business for a while and but looking for a safer way to validate clients, often without the headache of screening
B. It's not easy for them to get approved (at least it used to be the case) so they need to be willing to put up with the hassle of submitting their application.
C. If they have OKs, it means they see real clients who are also on P411.
P411 is not a review site itself so no way to know if the UTR is any good without reviews elsewhere so it can still be a YMMV situation.
is that I have never paid a premium price for a relatively unverified provider.
That said, I meet unreviewed providers based on recommendations of other providers. I occasionally TOFTT in the FBSM world (1st reviewer of a number of providers), and sometimes, the ad alone overwhelms my good sense. I'd say I've been generally lucky. No more disappointments than with "highly reviewed" providers. As someone else pointed out, a few text messages and email chats go a long way to satisfy me that she's not a rob. So, if she doesn't give a BBBJ but she's attractive, fun and safe, it's still a win for me.
I agree. I've taken a few chances over the years on new or unreviewed providers where the donation is 200 or less because it's a very small donation and if it goes poorly, oh well, not a big loss. Generally I'll do a first session blo n go with these ladies to get a feel for them and their incall, and more often than not they turn out to be service commensurate with the donation. I've had a few turn into regulars because the value was so good. But if I'm going to see a premium provider and pay 300 or more I'm going to need good reviews from gents I trust.
But I refuse to deposit if they don't have a lot of reviews and I refuse to provide too much info for screening. A provider took a chance on me once when I didn't have any references or history so I don't mind doing the same. I've only had one bad experience when with a new fbsm girl who was super cum-shy and just let go of my dick when the first squirt released, kinda ruined it for me.
I have fallen off the wagon and took a chance on a no review girl. It has turned out badly. I must be stupid as I need to relearn this lesson about every 5 to 7 years.
to give a gal a chance; reviews or not.
I've seen many gals new to the industry with no reviews; I've seen many "Twitter gals" with no reviews as well.
There are clues in web presence, social media and even the people they communicate with on social media.
If I have too many questions after doing my own homework, I'll simply ask her. Let her sell herself to me. Often, she will have a known quantity friend who will vouch.
No reason to be afraid to engage a woman who has no reviews.
Note: I still balk at exorbitant (>20%) deposits. Expecting too much payment in advance and too much for screening are bigger deal-breakers for me than a lack of reviews.
Deposits are one thing, even high deposits. But ladies who want a gift card etc just to consider me as a client is BS in my opinion. If it works for them great, but to me it's like tipping a server just so you can place an order. I'm generous to a fault with providers but that's one thing I am NEVER going to do.