ah yes, the screening. I look at screening in lieu of a first date. It's the same stuff you would learn from someone sitting in front of you: who are you, what do you do, blah blah blah. If they can't get through that with civility and decency, they can't get in to see me.
Yes when I am running a marathon or in a bike race I don't care how I smell, or if I have bad breath.
But I have never shown up for work a day in my life, or gone out for dinner, without cleaning up first.
I treat everyone I meet, from the lady who cleans my house, she's very hard working by the way, to my doctor, with respect and dignity.
I am almost always on time, and now that we have cell phones it easy to call ahead and let someone know I am might be late.
"Don't showed up drunk or high on drugs" Are you kidding me? Life is to sweet to miss it because I am wasted.
When I am the bazaar in Istanbul or Cairo I'll bargain, here I pay the posted price for things. I know from experience that the saying "It doesn't hurt to ask" just isn't true.
It all just comes so naturally and easily for me that I smile when reading these lists.
But it's telling and sad that these pages are needed at all. I try harder on date, I am going to make a good 1st impression.
That some guys think the rules of life don't apply in this most intimate encounter really bothers me.
Thanks for making this far down the page, that's just what's been on my mind lately.
...the horror stories here, and other places, justify the Etiquette portion of a provider's website. Unfortunately, there are guys who are complete slobs, and tales of skid marks left on the sheets are more common than you might imagine. Drunks and druggies are a constant hazard, as well.
There are those who would rather try and talk a lady out of a few bucks, because they don't have a lot of money, but I'm more like you in that regard. I usually stick with reasonably priced talent, so rather than insult them, I happily pay the going rate, and I tip the agency girls.
I make every effort to be clean, on time, and respectful of every lady I meet. Plus, a little gift never hurts to make the introduction memorable, and ease the tension.
In my experience polite,'upscale' men leave skid marks on the sheets and have sweaty balls and bad breathe just as much as the blue collar workers.
It would be my guess that the men with bad hygiene don't realize that they have bad hygiene.
Even if you showered an hour or two prior to a visit you may be 'not so fresh' by the time you arrive. Also, I have had clients shower at my incall who still smell bad.
One well dressed business man left the biggest, grossest skid marks on my sheets that I had ever seen.
So if you read posts about bad hygiene and don't think it pertains to you ... think again.
I personally act like I am going on a date and I might get lucky but I can see where the hygiene issues come from married men. Being too clean is a "red flag" to some wives, especially if you are not the metrosexual type of guy
It has nothing to do with married or single. Just as many single guys are that way, and the married ones visit during working hours so the wife isn't a concern.
I honestly believe they simply don't know that their 'nether regions' are not so fresh since they aren't sticking their noses down there
Even with the sophisication of the hobby, it is still a "seedy" side to the business. Some men use the hobby to display their deviant behavior. Its like the guy in college, who was not having fun unless he was drunk. Or the straight laced co-worker, who only time he can unwind when he is drunk at the office party. Some guy can't see an escort and have a good time unless they are drunk or high, so go the business
For me to have a great time I need the lady to enjoy the experience. Turning her on turns me on and makes me feel good. I try my hardest to be a good lover. That is what will come around full circle and turn me on. Maybe everyone doesn't have to think this way as they are buying their fantasy not mine, but being clean has to be a given.
in which it took a great deal more than the ability to provide the appropriate donation to enjoy the privelege of the company of a courtesan.
Having been raised in a place and time where manners, grooming and cleanliness were much more compulsory than they appear to be today this was not a problem for me.
I share your horror at the fact that a lady in this biz has to spell out in words what should be the basest form of civility and common sense.
It's just unbeleivale the behavior of some clients. I guess the old saying "treat people the way you would like to be treated" doesn't hold true with certain clients.
The slovenly types are not considerate and don't care about the lady and rarely if ever read a website so I've found the 'etiquette' page pointless.
What I believe screens out these types of undesirables is if they will correspond with me as an individual. Those that want more of an 'anonymous' type service and will not relate any information about themselves and will not deal with me as a peer are out. This type of 'screening'.. the type that so many men balk about, is exactly the process that keeps my biz providing me with happy, healthy, fun experiences. The men that will relate to me as an individual are the ones that treat our time together with respect.
ah yes, the screening. I look at screening in lieu of a first date. It's the same stuff you would learn from someone sitting in front of you: who are you, what do you do, blah blah blah. If they can't get through that with civility and decency, they can't get in to see me.
100% agree. I get chuckle out of it too. When the list get ridiculously kinder garden stuff, I begin to think, the particular has sub-par clientele and I move on. It is turn off for me, because it shows lack of class, suspicious nature, holier than though attitude in the sense that I am cleaner than everyone so I move on.
Being that said, add Asia to your bargaining list. It is pretty much the norm there. I would also add Brazil and many Latin American countries also, especially when it comes to hobby. They start at $500/hr and always seem to end up $150-200 for the whole night.
Some not only have crappy pants but crappy mouths. Just because a lady has an etiquette page doesn't mean she's low class or sees a lot of men. That's just an assumption. However, I hope that a woman who gives me a reference lets me know if the man had unusual hygiene problems.
There are some men who are extremely clean but don't shave or trim down there. Guess what? He's still going to have a great time, but I'm not going to stick his balls in my mouth. I may snuggle against them, but I don't need to floss my teeth with pubic hairs, thank you. Only the men who are truly into the hobby and/or truly conscious of their hygience feel secure enough about themselves to not be bothered by such a page on a website.
Like postings, just skip the parts that don't pertain to you. I don't have such a page on my website, but honestly I can see why some women do this now.
What some of you have forgotten is that everyone has to start somewhere. When I get a new hobbyist that wants to visit me, I direct him to my etiquette page first. Although most would think it's common sense about hygiene, some in their haste to meet said provider forget to be freshly showered. Do you remember what your preparations were before the visit with your first provider?
The etiquette page is good for many reasons. I have statements not just about hygiene, but also about parking, the donation, being discreet & going over time.
ringing the doorbell insted of knocking, where to park and needless to say: I have to remind even the seasoned hobbiest not to say "thank you" while walking out the door. They all tell me ahead of time, "Oh, I wouldn't be that stupid!" But guess what? They all do it.
Can't they take the hint that when I say goodbye to them before I open the door, start whispering while opening the door, and even email them about it before the date that neighbors could be watching? Nope! And they wonder why some women have etiquette pages. I don't, but I have added a few "don't" on my Contact page.
The vast majority of the etiquette pages are merely copy and paste, and are ignored anyhow. providers pay more attention to the gift page. Most of us will come to a session clean and ready, but the guys who don't are not reading the page anyhow. Most TER hobbyists who review and participate on the boards are not the problem. It is the guys who are not that are the problem.
Now if all providers would abide by their own etiquette, such as showering in between appointments, keeping the kitty and their ass clean, being on time, stopping the NCNS, not upselling, performing as agreed, staying the duration, and no B&S, the hobby would be perfect. This cuts both ways. Don't forget that!
.....I figured a grown man shouldn't have to be told to wash his ass. The few that actualy missed that area while showering, an etiquette page wouldn't have made a difference. Don't show up drunk? Does a gent need an etiquette page to tell him that? Be on time? Again, is he going to read that and say, whew, good thing she says not to be late, I was going to show up 15 min late.
These things should all be a given. If a gent does show up with smelly ass, well he is going to be acquainted with my shower. Which will not extend his time. Drunk, bye bye. Late w/out calling, bye bye.
I too get a kick out of etiquette pages. In fact I read one recently that said this....
"21) If you are on any medications that contain coke, or codeine you must tell me. If you are on these meds please shower right before we meet. Do not apply this medication to your nipples, it is not cute or funny, it is a crime. If you do the session will stop and you will be billed for the time and may get to drive me to the local emergency room. If I am taken to the ER room you get to explain why to the doctor. Trust me, not a good time.
I don't have an etiquette page, but I can see why some women (if worded nicely and not overdone) have them. However, you'd think we'd all be grown ups about hygiene.
I'm like you, meowbaby, I'll just turn them away or make them clean up.
yep what ego said! the biggest reason i will do a u turn right back out the door is if the provider imediately is not living up to her own website material
Fortunately for me, I am a low-volume provider. However, if I were to tour, I would shower inbetween appointments and get a clean sheet and pillow cases to put on the bed if I were at a hotel. I also have extremely good time-management skills, so I would make sure that I scheduled enough time inbetween clients to be squeaky clean again. Of course, I've only toured once and maybe saw two gentleman in one day.
I have never been a No-show. That is just tacky and unprofessional. If I have ever been late (only due to traffic), then it's merely five or 10 minutes late and I called the person ahead of time to let him know. I don't think I've been late for an Outcall in two or three years. In fact, I'm generally early so I have to either drive around or call the gentleman and see if he would like to see me early.
Upselling should never happen, unless you don't read reviews properly or the lady is new. I don't think any reputable lady on TER (or anywhere) upsells. For most ladies, everything is included (except rear entry or unusual items).
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