Can you tell that Lady is a pro by the way she makes love?

Are there things that would be a dead give away of her being a courtesan?

I am not talking about something trivial like a big flashing alarm clock by bed side ... but lets say her having a pack of Trojans which she knows how to use, or exceptional technique during oral sex .. or .. u name it.

What gives us away?

Lina

For me, I think a true courtesan would ...

- greet me with a nice LFK on the door, possibly leading to DFK. And she would greet me with a smile and warm huge.

- a pro will also ask you what you like after you get comfortable. The best ones are the ones who can somehow 'read your mind' and just give you what you want without you asking .. like a BBBJ.

- a BBBJ will be a good follow up from a tongue-on-tongue DFK.  BBBJ has to be slow and sensual, not fast and furious like you're being rushed.
And not to the point where you will cum pre-maturely. The lady has to tease and make the John hard.

- Once she sense that the hobbyist is rock hard, that's when she puts on cover gracefully, maybe suck on it some more and then go full service.

- a bottle of warming liquid with ultrathin covers will work great for me to enhance the experience.

- a true courtesan will normally enjoy the lovemaking and give good feedback and interaction .. not just lay down there.

While I absolutely agree with you on everything you mentioned a true courtesan should be able to do, I was wondering more about being with a lady in "civvie world". Is there something she would do something that would make you go "Damn she is a courtesan/provider/pro"?

Using your examples, would bottle of warming liquid with ultrathin covers signal to you that she may be having then on her nightstand for a reason?

Lina

In the civvie world, I have been with the "shy innocent type" to the "wild and experienced". The one thing that undoubtedly separates the courtesan from a civie EVERYTIME is the envelope.

I've probably had more memorably warm and erotic times with civvies than coutesans. I might add , I have yet to meet you !

Sometimes the courtesans are not as warm and receptive as a civvie or lack a certain vulnerability or openness about their personality. Otherwise, I can only express it as a misssing "je ne sais quoi"

Lol I was doing it like a pro before I became one lol. So maybe i'm biased to myself  but not  always.

I think you're asking if a man would wonder to himself if a woman he is involved with in a relationship (civvie relationship) could be a provider if he sees or experiences certain things.

My take on it is that even a very sexually experienced civvie can have the same skills and equipment (lube, thin condoms, toys, etc.) and those things don't necessarily signal "provider", although they do signal "experienced and likes sex".

The only thing that differs is that the provider is only looking for the envelope and the civvie is only looking for dinner, trips, gifts, shopping, etc.  

The provider is less expensive.

Very interesting question.

Was wondering it myself recently when I got involved with a new girlfriend from outside of my social circle--"could she be a provider and if she were, how would I tell?"

What made me wonder..?

1) Very attractive
2) Noticeably large implants
3) Very sexy style of dress
4) Made mention of a friend/acquaintance who is a provider
5) Comfortable with her sexuality; likes to go commando in short skirts; willing to have sex on first or second date
6) Freelance employment and flexible work schedule.

What made me decide that she was not a provider..?

1) Body language during sex.  Something about her demeanor gave me the impression that she was not accustomed to having sex with one or more different guys on a daily basis.  Hard to pin down exactly what it was that gave that impression.  
2) The way she spoke about her friend who is a provider.  Not judgmental exactly, but definitely not approving.
3) Something about her relationship with money.  Again hard to pin down.  But on the simplest level, there is little to no free-spending on unneeded luxuries and spending in general is modest.

Some civies can be more freaky than providers. Remember that a lot of providers are there for the envelop, while civies who love sex are meeting up guys for for their sexual cravings. So a bottled-up civie could be wilder in bed and has more sex toys in her room.  She may not be a provider, but she may have a ready arsenal of love juice and all.  

I dated a civie who squirted all over and got the sheets really wet - haven't seen that in a provider. I've only been with one provider that really squirted on my cock while in cowgirl position.

You have to see the last episode of "two and a half men" which aired a week ago monday. Charlie hired a woman for the evening. I fell out of my chair laughing so hard! He had ordered Asian.

I sense that you are asking whether a provider, in her personal life, could do something that would be a dead give-away to her professional life.  In my experience, no.

It is easy to tell a bad provider from a civvy date.  The bad provider has no interest in even pretending she is enjoying the sex.  The civvy will be doing whatever she can to enjoy it.

Now, at the other end of the spectrum, the best provider sessions could be easily mistaken for good sex with a talented civvy.  There is no single tell-tale trait.  In fact, the best sex and the best BBBJ I've had were from a couple civvy girlfriends.  No provider has ever done the things they did to me!

Many civvies have sex toys and condoms in their bed-side nightstands.  So that isn't a big clue.

Perhaps, the one thing I could think of would be having a Sam's Club-sized box of condoms next to the bed.  THAT could be the tip-off to a pro!

That, and maybe if she jumped right up after the sex and brought a warm wash cloth to me in bed.  No SO did that for me.  They generally are too busy laying around and enjoying the after-glow!

There isn't much as far as sexual techniques that I learned while being a courtesan.

What is different in my professional dates vs civvie dates is probably focus of attention.

While in p4p I am more concentrated on my date's needs vs my own.

And when I am on civvie date ...well my date is the one getting me a warm wash cloth

Lina

That's a dead give-away....

she greets me at the door wearing a great Victoria Secret outfit, along with a DFK, and asks me if I'd like to take a shower before we get started

Re: that's easy

How about something less obvious?

Lina

I civie dated extensively. One of my civie girlfriends, unknown to me, was a provider. As I had never seen an escort before and didn't even know they existed outside of movies; I had no basis for comparison.

But looking back I can tell you several distinguishing features.

1. In the first date, there was a lot more eye-contact than with the typical civie date. Her responses were absolutely on-cue and perfect. No "err, ummm" like with a girl who has to think for a second. Her carriage was perfect, like a dancer. She had an absolutely perfect understanding of visual impact. How to place and position her body even for something as mundane as taking a sip of water. First kiss was insane. I thought I was going to come right there. She giggled at the reaction.

Most women, even college professors and lawyers and stuff, were pretty nervous about meeting me. This woman was totally at ease as though we had already had a dozen dates.


2. Condoms. I have always been OCD about condoms. In my life I have only ever had unprotected sex with one woman, and we married as virgins. Everyone since her it has been "condom or no intercourse."

Civie women, or a great many of them, found this insulting or else didn't care. VERY many encouraged bareback and some were even flippant about it: "The bug is gonna get us all anyway." Etc. Well, needless to say I had to make sure I had my own condoms and put them on myself.

This woman would put the condom on for me; and she knew how to make that process actually feel good.

3. Cleanup. In civie sex I have always went to wash myself up and then come back with a warm damp washcloth and small towel to clean up the lady. (Service with a smile.)

This was the only girlfriend I ever had who would do the opposite. She'd jump up, go clean herself off, then come back and clean me.

4. Sex.
In terms of specific sex acts; I've actually had a far broader menu with civies than providers. Civie girls are even kinkier if anything.

But one thing that distinguished that one girlfriend from the others sexually was her perfection in kinesthetics. That is, we could move smoothly from position to position with no loss of contact.

The other distinction was a superior grasp of pelvic movement. Actually, I've only experienced this with a couple of providers; but with no civies except this girlfriend. I really can't describe what goes on with this but there are details of pelvis position and motion combined with flexing/relaxing vaginal floor muscles that I saw in this lady and a couple of providers but no place else.

If I knew then what I know now, I would have identified her as a provider almost immediately.

a rather difficult question. With my first wife, there is nothing that we didn't do, that I've not done with others, though since we started together, we learned together. Now, if I had met her later on, and she took the lead doing all those things, then I might be asking myself, how does she know all this; not so much with the thought in mind whether she was, or had been a provider, but more regarding how many men has she been with.

I never did ask her, but the first time we got together she gave me a massage from head to toe, with a very long pause in the , that was so damn good that she had to have done it professionally at one point in her life.

I never did ask her if she had ever provided, we never actually became a couple, but we enjoyed sport fucking every few months for years, until she met a friend of mine who stole her away from me. BTW My friend that "stole" her was a woman, who knew??? lol I never had a bit of hard feeling, my friend endured a lot more drama in the first few weeks of being involved with her than I ever did during the several years that I did as a FWB. lol

Apparently, red lipstick is a giveway if you are in a hotel bar. I had someone ask me if I was a working girl while waiting for my best friend and reading the paper.

In terms of sex, a couple years ago I was sleeping with an older man who eventually asked if I was a pro. I wasn't even old enough to drink at the time and needless to say, I was shocked and livid. I inquired why he would even think that and he said it had to do with how animated/engaged I am during sex (noisy, multiples, etc) that he figured I was either a provider or a very talented faker. Neither of which were true. I subsequently broke things off with righteous indignation when he disclosed that he had seen providers.

How the tables have turned.