Many (most?) ladies have discounted rates for extended dates. However, it is unfair to expect someone to stay off the clock - regardless of how fun the event is. It is time away from the rest of her life, her family, other obligations... and may be costing her real money in lost income from other work, child care, etc.
If you don't like the rate, ask another lady. There is someone out there willing to do anything at all price points.
One for the girls really, but.....If you've seen a girl a few times, you get on and she's happy to be seen out with you in public, you're much more likely to get the social time at a much reduced rate but don't expect it to be free.
For a first date I can see why they'd want the normal price – They might find you hard work – They might be turning away other work etc. etc.
Personally - To sit and watch someone eat and drink at my expense for $250 plus an hour...... No thanks.
it depends on my gentleman friend...for someone I have Never seen...I would tell him to check out my website...for my gentlemen friends that I Enjoy there company and We have a lot of Fun together...inside and outside the bedroom...let's just say...I am Not a greedy person...and I have had the opportunity to go places and do things...that I would have otherwise Never been able to do...money Will come and go...memories Will last a Life time 
When you get to know someone well, and she enjoys your company, there's a chance that she will bring it up herself, but to ask as if it's something your owed will be a big turn off.
If the gentleman is a regular I would probably join him for the public events on my time and only charge for the private time. I have done this with a regular before and had a great evening at a restaurant and a very expensive show that I would never have been able to afford on my own.
Thanks for the feedback and I view it exactly as you laid out. I completely understanding the time away from family and friends, lost money from other appointments and of course that all plays into it. But by the same token there is the wow factor of the event, the chance to have a good meal with someone you find pleasant, etc...and that plays into it as well.
It seems sort of random, every provider views it differently...and I should have specified "with a repeat customer" since it could be a pain to spend it with someone that you had no chemistry with.
there still isn't a consensus but at least I have hope that, with someone I know, for a good event or dinner, if I look in the right direction I can find providers willing to cut their regular rate and account for "private time" versus "public time".
thanks again!
it would have to be a regular client. I don't keep anyone as a regular unless I really enjoy their company. I would not consider it for a new client, that could turn into a miserable evening. BUt yes, there is hope, every provider has their own opinion but I'm sure I am not the only one who would enjoy an evening like this.
I've had a few overnight/long weekend excursions with my-then ATF (a few years ago). It was at her suggestion and she offered me a rate of half her normal hourly rate.
While we had our fill of wonderful sex and erotic play, most of the time was spent in just hanging out together, doing some shopping, a bit of sightseeing and having meals at special places she wanted to show me. Of course, I paid for the meals but she did her own shopping -- I did carry the bags!
Just "normal" OTC time but that made it all the more special; "palate cleansers" for the main course(s) that followed --
depending on what your proposal is, and how much she might personally enjoy it…how much time is involved, does she know you and enjoy spending time with you…etc....
Keeping in mind that, what you might view as a once in a lifetime experience, may not be quite as enticing to her...lol...
One way to go about this: Plan your adventure. Then decide who you would enjoy sharing that time with. And then ask ‘her’ what compensation she would be comfortable with. If what she is comfortable with does not line up with what you are comfortable with, then that might not be the best match.
If you set the rate yourself you are establishing what you are comfortable with. But you are also, in a sense, telling her what ‘you’ think her time should be worth to her.
But you have no way of knowing what other costs ($ or otherwise) she might need to offset to spend that time with you (even if she really loves your idea).
I agree with everything you are saying, I would never "dictate" price...but in my mind I need to know if something is financially doable.
I also understand that what rocks my boat might not hers...and therefore what would be more "valuable" to me than to her.
Most of my OTC activities, from a concert or ball game to foreign travel, were suggested by the ladies. For example, "You know, if you got tickets to see so-and-so, I would like to go with you." My point is that you may want to ask the lady what she considers fun.
and I can think of a dozen other ladies with a heavy companionship oriented bent that do it the exact same way. I don't negotiate off the clock time. At the same time, if an overnight date runs into a late morning or early afternoon brunch and a return to the room for a final taste of desert, I certainly don't quibble over such issues. The date should always end organically, and not because I've looked at my watch and declared "well, time to pack up!"
I have to admit I am at a real loss as to this idea of a discount because I particularly like the individual or the place s/he might be taking me. I simply don't have this experience where I see some individuals to pay the bills and then have my selection of favorite "regulars." I believe in an absolute authenticity of the connection. I keep my circle pretty tight knit, generally on the closer and longer term side of things, and only see those individuals I particularly like. Likewise, I only agree to join friends on adventures (food, entertainment, travel, etc) that interest me. To accept any date where I would have to grin and bear it either because of the company or the environment/experience for the sake of any amount of financial compensation would simply defeat the very goals I found my experience on as a companion.
As a final thoughts, this whole idea in general that an individual should get paid less than their asking rate for anything simply because they enjoy it is rather nonsensical. In theory, a gentleman could employ that same tactic in trying to negotiate down a lady's rate because she'll have "extra fun" with him behind closed doors (oh, wait, you do see this tactic all the freaking time).
an opportunity to do something I wouldn't have had the opportunity to do otherwise...or that it sounds like a Blast and how much Fun can that be...for example...one of my regulars gave me the opportunity to go to Thailand for a month...we left Nov 1st and returned Dec 1st...now if I charged my regular rate...there is No way he would have taken me...as long as they pay 100% of everything...and then we discuss what we each would consider a win-win...we are both Happy with the agreed amount...how can one complain...I have been Very fortunate to have gone on many trips and have done many things that I know...I would have Never had the opportunity to do...without one of my special gentlemen friends offering...I look at it as an extra bonus...an Awesome opportunity...and a Lifetime memory...and Yes...if something were asked of me...that I had No interest...I would just say No Thank You...it's All perception...on how each individual looks at there life and what they want to accomplish 
Thanks Ailey....perfect explanation of my point. Firstly, it isn't for everyone, you have to feel comfortable with they guy, it has to be something you don't mind doing, and the arrangement has to work for both parties for it to be successful.
To specifically explain the post, last November I had tickets to a benefit for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame concert...it was made into an HBO special; The Rolling Stones, Black Eyed Peas, Springsteen, Jackson Browne, Sting, on and one...anyway my offer was for a limo into NYC, dinner at a great restaurant, the show, a limo back to a nice hotel, and then 90-120 minutes of alone time. Total time was most likely 8+ hours, my feeling was that $2K was alot of money to experience that kind of night with only 90 minutes of alone time.
The perception that I was haggling or trying to take advantage of a provider isn't accurate, but most providers don't have 8 hour dates listed on their sites...I just though that price for a $250/hr provider was high given the circumstances of the date.
So thanks for understanding my point and agreeing!
Eve, Your site actually agrees with my feelings 100%...you post a price of $400/hr, $1200/6 hrs, $1800/6 hrs if you stay in the entire time. The real point of my OP was that I had providers tell me that they were looking for, in one case, $2000 for a 7 hour date that only included, at most, 2 hours of private time.
Everyone should be compensated for their time and I would never haggle by any means. $1200/6 hours sounds completely reasonable and fair as does the "up charge" for staying in the entire time.
As to the "enjoyment" factor...I know there are guys who try to haggle basic rates...I would never do that either. We can split hairs on symantics all day long but my point is...paying a certain rate for private time is fine, but paying the SAME rate for outside time, given the parameters of the "work" involved and the nature of the experience, seems unfair to me. Your website and the rates indicated above bear that out.
as now i can think a little better. Second wave of fun tomorrow morning.
My experiences with extended dates have been as follows(not 'followme'lol);
I always consider donation as an extension of personal disposition. It doesn't always apply but i have to use some sort of equation. Those who price themselves at the 'get over yourself' rate i have always shy'ed away from. When i have booked extended dates,very few and with very few,i have always gone above and beyond to show my appreciation in monetary and material fashions. Why??? I'm a man. I don't like to feel like i'm being coerced/schmoozed. I want to be permited the opportunity to show myself the GENTLEMAN.
To answer your question; stay within any budget that you have developed and offer up any perks(given the avail. cash flow)that you feel worthy. Por ejemplo; dinner on her(?) fantastic!!! But bring her a little trinket of a gift. Good Luck.
Yeap. You guessed it. BUSINESS and COMPANIONSHIP.
Lets extrapolate into some other industry. For example ... world of auto mechanics. There are people who are absolutely crazy about old collectible cars. They love them, they fix them, biggest joy in their life is to touch one of them.
Imagine you are taking a rare collectible automobile to such person for a fixer uper.
Here is how this conversation is going to proceed:
You : "Hi, this is really great car and it will take you 20h to fix it. However you will have time of your life doing so. Can you charge me just for 3h of your labour?"
Mechanic: "blip blip blip blip"
Same here. While we MAY BE engaging in activities of mutual interest, we are still WORKING.
Another source of "this is fun so it should be free" misconception is that people forget very simple fact of life. Ready? Here it is. What seems fabulous and rare treat to some, may be run of the mill event!
Established high class courtesan (usually someone more likely to draw overnight and travel dates than 15 min quickie CL gal) is usually well traveled, educated and experienced woman who can afford to book repeat appointments with people she genuinely likes. Having dinner at five star restaurant is not once in a lifetime event for her.
Few years ago I had a corporate job where I had to entertain clients 2-4 times a week in best New York restaurants. It was fun and exciting for about .. few months. Then it became tedious, time consuming and annoying. My friends would not believe that idea of another corporate client dinner was less appealing than bubble bath and a book.
What I tried to explain to them was that while I did get to go to nice places, I had to be "on" all the time to make sure that my clients have great time.
World of companionship is similar, but easier in this regard. There I could not pick clients. Here I can.
I just came back from Las Vegas where I had several extended dates scheduled. I got to do a lot of things that I truly enjoy, but I also made sure that i had full 24h period between each date so I could recharge mentally and be ON for next date. As result, I declined a lot of shorter and summarily more lucrative appointments.
Did i have a blast? Absolutely. Did my friends have a blast? Absolutely. Do I now need several days of complete "me" time .. absolutely!
Like Eve said, ladies who favor long term engagements with a lot of public and private activities are easy to spot based on their rate structures. Here is simple math example - five 1h dates produce same amount of income for me as one overnight (up to 14h), require less expense and less emotional effort.
Sorry for long post - writing this is good excuse for taking a break from resizing all my new photos
Lina
Geez...maybe its me, but I never incinuated that I was looking for "free" time, just not a charge equal to the charge for "play time"...it isn't a crazy concept many providers list seperate rates for dinner dates that include public time. There are mitigating factors as to why some of the time is charged at a lower rate; it isn't "work" in the tradtional sense of what a provider does, there is a minor benefit to the provider (seeing a show, enjoying a dinner, etc...), the revenue derived from the entire evening (becuase it is a multi hour date) may equal or surpass what the provider would make otherwise from a series of one hour dates during the same evening, and the provider doesn't have to "emotionally invest"/prepare/verify mulitple times in the same evening.
The OP was more about the potentail for some sort of formula for calculating the ratio of "full price" hours versus "reduced rate" hours given these mitigating factors.
I had two fantastic deals proposed to me, both of which I could not manage to take advatnage of due to last minute work schedule changes.
I had a trip planed for a conference, I contacted a lady I had met based out of another city, close to where I would be, a short flight away. She offered to come with me for the 2 days and only charge me what she normally made in a day. Now get this. She said that she averaged 350 to 400 per day and only wanted for me to make up for what she would have made had she been home working. As long as I took care of travel, food and entertainment. My trip was cancelled due to a business conflict, so bumbed.
I had an evening date planned after a business dinner and wanted to schedule from 10pm to midnight with someone I had seen twice. I wanted an outcall visit and she asked if I would come to her incall location (private home) and if I did I could spend the night for the 2 hour donation. That one was also canceled due to changes in my work schedule.
