As that scene was never one I was involved with, even 9 years ago...

I'm not sure I'd let guys off the hook so easily as saying the "Gfe thing has deluded" them. To me, that smacks of a lack of personal responsibility - a trait of which you and I are both fans.  They are grown ass men who know exactly (or should, and if not, don't have the requisite brain power to play this game) what they are doing. They know they're on a clock. They know we try to make the GFE as real as possible.  To say we've so successfully deluded them that they can't help but think running over time is ok, is *about* the same as saying we all need to wear burkahs for fear that men won't be able to control themselves and rape random women on the street. Simply ludicrous. The men who think this way are nothing more than passive aggressive manipulators and deserve to be handled as such.

The gents that have replied to the thread seem to understand this... If a man does not, it's on HIM... Not us and our "salesmanship".

Edited for stupid Siri-typos lol

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have NOTHING in common with guys that like to take advantage of a girls "clock".....geez....just not buying that crap. The whole GFE thing is about how your GF would treat you AND how you would treat her i.e. with respect. You dont respect someone in this biz by jonesing extra time off of them. "Gentlemen" dont do that, scoundrels do.

Speaking of asshats!

Somewhere a 7th grade class is missing the class clown!

And my post differed from others in that it included an example?  I can see where higher level writing would perplex you son.  Bit you try.  Trophy for you!

See - that is the point you saw.  The actual point made was that I understand my obligation to offer to pay, which was consistent with the thread.

But continue to be an angry young man hiding behind an online ID and cyber-bullying all day.  The rest of us will enjoy our families first and our hobby second, and treat each other with respect.

And let me know when you hit DC - would "love" to buy you a beer bud.

This guy is just an idiot taking advantage of your good nature. I am always very conscious of the time, and there have
been sessions where the provider told me to not be concerned about being over time. But I would not take advantage of that. This is a very specific arrangement, and if the lady grants grace then fine, but otherwise a hobbyist should not wait until the lady has to tell him it's time to go. Each relationship we have in life is based upon respect, including this one.

That the reason you needed to know the length of time he wanted was so that you could line up your other appointments according to his preference so as not to interfere with your day's schedule and the other gentlemen involved in it.

I hope you don't dwell on such a negative "non-clock watcher" and move on to greener pastures

XXX-Giselle Parker

i have known him for years he cones always want greek even when i am totally not into it. He is alot opf work because he is so obese he cant really so any thing he is a total starfish, {just lays there} which is fine i understand some guys arent into doing aNYTHING N YOU ARE THE ONE DOING EVERYTHING FULL HOUR.
but i had fallen behind this month and had told him i really cant have you here for 5 hours with just the 350 granmted its not an all day appt its an hour appt then wathcn tv order food talk.
rehardless, i do end up fallen behind havn clients whom they say well we r friends too. i mean we talkd we prdered food we watch tv, i mean that fine but after a few months of this i realize how far behind i am,
I recnetly told him i cant have u here all day like this, I am behind, I am not looking for a bf right now. and i dont need companionship, from you and I am not interested in you outside of appts. your not my type anyways.
he got so livid and not we ve ended up deciding not to speak ever again,
he didnt take it well at all.
after you explain to them your not seeking a bf situation out of them,
they can get the hour then thats it, alot of times youl lose them altogether as a client,
i had it happen this week with that one client,
you gotta tell them vuz when 60 clients you see thru out year are all payin for oner hour then takn upo your time and energy way longer, it adds up. you becomne drained, and broke, its defiently i am sure not what any one is lookn for goin into this, but bein too nice its what ends up happening, trouble is once you tell them n remind them your npt interested beyong the hour appt n dpnt like them as a bf, alot of them get angry n end upo hating you fpr it,
i see where your comin from n i have it happen alot as well.
another time last week a regular, whom tips 100 texted me incessantly from 9 am til 3 pm, goin in n on about what i d wear what we role play, i ike him he is cute and genrous, i emngaged in the incessant textathon sexting til 3pm ognoprin alot of pother dates i couldve landed, by 3 i was so xhausted from the endless texting with out just a simnpke scheduling an appt n allowing me to attempt to get back to wpork, especially considering i had a hotel i was paying for and all.
i ended up kinda angry n had to explain that it makes u fall behind when every one is expecting so much of you, for what ends up a one hour date, but expecting hours of textoing, or hours of talk off clock with everyone, u end up broke and defeated and sad its goin this way, and angry at yourself for not keppin it business and being a more of a bicth,
seems the nicer u are it does also mean giving more of your time n energy and well soul, that couldve or u wouldve liked to have spent that energy on your other dreams or goals or personal relationships, when every client expects pover 3 hours of correspondence for aN HOUR DATE U DO TEND TO LOSE ENERGY FOR YOUR PERSONAL PURSUITS AND THINGS U D HAD WANTED TYO DO FOR YOURSELF,
but hey if this job ruled and was easy, alot more gals be doin it, its some what opening yourself up to bein abused harrased and dealing with well extremely obsessive behaviors from guys, texting more than 15 times back n forth fpor whats goin to end up bein an hours pay to u in the end, is just well it sucks, but hey it is what is, u can shut the cell off n attempt to do email only, as i do from time to time when i get overwhelemd withthe incessant sexting giuys that text fpr 4 hours n then never just book an appt then leave u be so u could do pother dates,
yes alot of them if u say hey ijts for the hour i am a hooker n no i dont wanna hang after, yes most of them will run other way n become angry with you, i think the gfe referes to acting that way thru out the whole thing once u lay down law alot of them get wicked pissed,.

that i cant hang for 5 hours for a 350 hour appt, . that i dont like him as a boyfriend that if i were to have a bf they have tattoos n be well. not him. I am not attrracted to him. and that at this time in my life, my goal is breats implants, I dont even want a boyfriend.
  I get off with alot the clients and i have a few guys i see in personal life but am i over sexed and stuff? yes , I still have sex in free time with  guys I like , but its not nesseray n i could go with out it i suppose.
I had told him i am not inneed of campanionship or bf type thing with him. n that if he d like to come for an hour gfe n then go thats great,
he got super angry and n0w decided he d never like to see me again, .
   which is fine it gets to be pretty draining when all the clients think your "friends" and you r espected to chat n shoot shit off clock with all them . you do end yo pretty burnt out n broke if you do business tat way, and well you do have to set them straoght when they start thinkn you can spend all day with them for an hour date fee.
its nice to be nice but your the one thats gonna be so burnt out youl have to cancel dates planned later that day or next day you were counting on for your food and survival or maintenence,{nails tan ect}
then youl be burnt out and have ugly nails inneed of manicure n all the other guys will wonder what the hell is up, thats when youl reALIZE YOU CANT BE A real GF TO EVERY GOD DAM JOHN U BANG, YOURL END UP THE BROKEST ESCORT IN TOWN, AND VERY VERY TIRED.
and youl have no time to oursue any form of personal life cuz youl be expending all your life force with some one in reality your not looking to build anything meaningfull with, so your spirit will suppfer in the end too.
you have to at some point express whats goin on to them, so they dont treat the next escprt shitty too after you, think thats the way it is, you can consume as much time as you feel for a hour hour session a month,
its askin too much, n they need to be told at some piunt, u need time to have a personal life too, if you see 15 dates amonth n each is requiring 5 hours of off clock texting calls, emails hang time, thats
75 hours a month your spending for well peanuts,
i think sometimes tey gforget bu have 15 other guys your doin the back n forth with min a month so when they r all expecting hours of off clock chatter, n incessant texts, um hello. that sux!

OMG who fucking cares

You handled it well and now you seek your 15mins of fame?

This is a Provider problem!......

This is what happens when the intimate/friend bullshit is carried too fucking far.  I posted a thread a couple of weeks ago about guys talking about this friendship BS and got called all kinds of names.

Guess what?  You sold it so good this dumbass bought it and doesn't want to give it back.  

Why is it unacceptable to sell SEX?  

I am not judging but some of the guys who P4P are not successful with the opposite sex.  This hobby has deluded them into thinking that they are truly making friends.  Beware of losers with the ladies bearing envelopes full of cash!!!!

My advice next time don't go over the clock.  My ATF had a great line 5 minutes before the hour she would tell me I have an appt. to get my hair/nails/feet (whatever) done then would lean over and give me a big wet kiss.  

I would just smile and say see you soon

He is the ONE guy who doesn't get it.  I wouldn't worry about what one guy thinks.

I treat my friends well and don't clock watch so we generally go over time. I want them to know I enjoy being with them, b/c in reality I do enjoy their company, but it's time to reconsider not clock watching and OTC when it becomes expected and they never pay for a longer date b/c they pay for a shorter one assuming it'll run long.

The worse is when a guy posts about OTC treatment on the boards or in reviews, b/c it creates expectations for new clients.

Going forward, I'll watch the clock w/ all new clients and not offer OTC time. It's a poor business practice. If they want more time, they can pay for it.

I think you're making a good move to start watching the clock. I hope it works for you too.

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Unfortunately, many clients are not so well-informed and considerate as those of you who have replied.

I have a regular who has 40+ reviews and has seen even more girls. I met him long ago. He REALLY THINKS I should not charge him for any time over 1 hour (I'm not talking an hour or two here or there, I'm talking about an entire day trip or overnight). He asked me to travel to him 2 hours (each way) and spend the whole day w/him for less than my 1-hour rate. He was highly offended when I refused. I tried to explain that while I valued him as a person (which is true), this is *how I make my living* and I can't spend all that time/travel at the detriment of my other responsibilities. No dice. He called me cold.

I wish I could say that he is the only client who has given me such issues. But it's FAR from the truth. More men just don't get it than otherwise.

Some people really try to take advantage as much as they can. Some people think this is 'monopoly money' or that we're mall brats and just want a Gucci purse. Some people just really think they are that special.

There is no way to make such a client 'get it', sometimes you either have to make a decision to either deal w/the BS or not (meaning, to cut them loose). I guarantee this guy will make every effort to keep you extra time and he sounds experienced enough to know better. So you will continue to be frustrated by him IF you see him again. Is it worth the $ to you or not?

You should change because one inconsiderate individual?

Don't you all know there's no such thing as "NOT being a clock watcher."  You are ALWAYS on the clock.  Even with the so-called "clock free" date, you're on the clock.  So, when I read that a lady is not a clock watcher, I consider that an outright lie, and take it into consideration of whether or not to contact her.  There are other lies ladies tell, but this is one of the first and foremost.