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Re: Thankfully I am here to set YOU straight.
Lagroove. Damn you for being right and making me agree with you. Let's hope this wont continue. 
Sorry Jack. My source is a little more reliable than your “jack book”. FOSTA was written and sponsored by a GOP congresswoman, Ann Wagner. As to who voted for it, this thing was spun as a vote against human sex trafficking, so nobody wanted to vote against it, which could be seen as voting for sex trafficking. It was passed when there was a GOP majority in the House, so there’s that little fact that should be noted.
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for disappearing, except for VPN here in the States and other such corrupt countries worldwide. I've saved a ton of money as I ran for the hills when Obama and his misguided attempt to equate human trafficking with good old man looking for a good time with a bird half his age! Now, where and with whom do I spend a bit of it ....
Obama had nothing to do with it. That said, it's fairly obvious that IF he'd been President when FOSTA/SESTA was passed he'd have signed it too.
Maybe next time read the news.
Lagroove. Damn you for being right and making me agree with you. Let's hope this wont continue.
OK, actually you sound even dumber because at least Trump was the guy who was POTUS at the time and the guy who actually signed it into law.
Now thanks for making the idiot Trump haters look smart by comparison to you, Even Inicky looks smart and even reasonable next to you and everyone knows that neither one of those traits are true about him.
The LA in LAgroove stood for Louisiana, given your MAGA anti-Bama rhetoric. Then I realized it stood for Los Angeles. You are obviously far, far away from home. You can take the boy out of the swamps, but not the swamps out of the boy. The alligators called. They want their retard back.
What I was really trying to say is that SESTA-FOSTA was passed with overwhelming bipartisan support, and signed into law by the guy whose red hat you are wearing .
FOSTA SESTA was an invention of the Republican Party. Whats weird about it is that it was supposedly done to curry favor with the evangelicals, but it was introduced and largely written by senator Rob Portman (R) Ohio. Portman was one of the first GOP senators who came out in favor of same sex marriage. Go figure.
The "FOSTA" part of "FOSTA/SESTA" was written in the HOUSE. You know, the DEMOCRATIC held HOUSE.
Here, I found a source that perfectly matches your understanding of the issue; TEEN VOGUE! LOL!
"But the bill nonetheless sailed through Congress, netting just 25 no votes in the House and 2 in the Senate. Every Democrat now running for president who served in Congress last year — Corey Booker, John Delaney, Tulsi Gabbard, Kirsten Gillibrand, Kamala Harris, Amy Klobuchar, Beto O’Rourke, Bernie Sanders, and Elizabeth Warren — voted in favor of it."
Sorry Jack. My source is a little more reliable than your “jack book”. FOSTA was written and sponsored by a GOP congresswoman, Ann Wagner. As to who voted for it, this thing was spun as a vote against human sex trafficking, so nobody wanted to vote against it, which could be seen as voting for sex trafficking. It was passed when there was a GOP majority in the House, so there’s that little fact that should be noted.
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It wasn't a "Republican invention" at all as you initially stated, as BOTH sides tripped over each other to write, sponsor AND vote for it in a wildly bi-partisan fashion.
We already have one hack here in BobFromStateFarm so we def don't need another.
You are wrong, be a man and admit it. Read the legislative history or don't. It was in fact created by the Republicans to keep the evangelicals happy and to subtly further the GOP agenda to end net neutrality. Of course it was voted for bilaterally because who would vote for sex trafficking? That part of the plan actually backfired badly for the GOP because they lost their intended talking point going into the 2018 election of not being able to say the democrats voted for sex trafficking. The fact that it came out of the GOP is really not that relevant is it?
The sad thing is you and I don't really disagree. It's a stupid bad law that obviously affected our little world in a bad way. But lay off the stupid attempts at insulting my intelligence because it just makes you look more stupid than me. Can't we just continue in a friendly discourse? Or is that beyond your functionality? If it is, then please by all means use the ignore button.
The fact is you are both wrong but you both are essentially saying the same thing and whistling past each other in the process. JD is wrong in that it was passed in a Republican held house but you are being disingenuous at best to say the Republicans "invented" Sesta-Fosta. Each side is equally at fault for this horrible law that Trump signed off on. Sadly, progressives would have wrote the same/similar bill and couldn't wait to go down the same rabbit hole as the Republicans. Richard Blumenthal (Democrat from CT) co-sponsored the Senate version. No heroes here JTC. Both sides were spineless.
I would love to lay the blame of this on Republicans but it was a joint effort and your original post in this thread clearly gave the impression you were only blaming the Republicans. I will blame them for many things (lack of action on climate, tax relief for billionaires, not enough funding for schools, etc) but Sesta-Fosta is not one of them.
for Republicans. Most of us have air conditioning in our cars, homes and offices, as do most of the Democratic elites. Its only an issue for the homeless. Eliminate homelessness, and you solve the climate issue. Problem solved.
FOSTA SESTA is a horrible law brought by the GOP from the more nefarious motive of piercing a hole in the Communications Decency Act that protected websites such as TER from liability for user created content that promoted sex trafficking. It allowed states to initiate criminal proceedings in an industry that heretofore had been exclusively in Federal Jurisdiction. This was an essential part of a larger strategy to deregulate and end net neutrality. Why end net neutrality? To make more money by allowing selective bandwidth throttling and some forms of censorship for which a user would have to pay extra to avoid. This is well documented and you can do your own research.
So how to get everybody on board for this horrible law? Make it about something so abhorrent, human sex trafficking, that nobody would vote against it. So yeah dems and republicans all voted for it as a matter of political survival. But it was in fact an invention of the conservatives. TER and our little world are nothing more than collateral damage in that fight.
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There's really only one party that consistently supports individual liberty, including the decriminalization of sex work ... the Libertarians, of course.
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