At times i am confronted with emails
from providers who are having difficulty
making their monthly bills or just
suffering through this troublesome
economy. They ask if there is any
chance that i would like to see them.
I tell them not at their current rate.
They ask why not since i didn't have
issue with their rate before. I say that
the current economy doesn't justify their
rates anylonger. Some get angry and slam the
phone down. Others swallow their pride
and ask at what rate would i see them? OH
the bargains i've come up with! The sooner
we all stop caving in to current market
"Demands", the sooner we can establish
the foreground of this thing we call
hobbying. HAPPY HOBBYING bargain hunters

If "the market" demands a lower rate, why would anyone be "caving in?" You mean to say, "if we all stop caving in to FORMER market demands."

I guess people like you can't get laid for free, but would really like to.

I've noticed it to. Getting e-mails from past dates, PM's even, fishing for business. One keeps texting the phone 2-3 times a week. That didn't happen just a few years ago.

Even mainstream business has gotten more aggressive. Had my carpet cleaned 2 years ago and now every three months these fuckers are calling me to see if I want it cleaned again. Everyone I do business with, it seems, if they have a way to contact me, they do.

When companies are contacting you for business, it puts the consumer in a position of power. And if it's something I need I will use that power to haggle them down.

This business is NOT the same. When the product is YOU, there are issues of pride/self-esteem etc attached to it - they're putting a price on something they were taught to believe was priceless, thus the reason it's been said countless times before that negotiating rates is insulting.

And guys are always saying they should run it like any other business, free of emotion, only focusing on the bottom line. Watch the same guys post threads about losing control of their own emotions. Not always so easy fighting your own human nature.

They say, well I talked the salesman down on that Grand Cherokee because I knew he needed my business. How is this any different... Well, was the car offended by that? Is it going to run poorly for you because you lowballed your way into the drivers seat?

Even a woman who may enjoy being objectified, only enjoys it for the sake of fantasy. But you still can't convince her that she's supposed to feel no more emotion than a used Jeep.

Maybe you can talk her down, sure, if she needs your money that badly. And most likely you'll get what you pay for. I notice it even when a girl runs a "special", which is becoming quite prevalent - not one that I negotiated, but one she advertised. A girl doesn't do that because she wants to make less money. And the lower level of enthusiasm I find when booking a date like that is plainly obvious. Read enough reviews and you find that some even slash the "menu" in those situations.

You can't treat a woman like Chinese take out. Pay less and the food doesn't taste quite the same. Not worth the negligable savings to me.    

I will offer you $3 per day, take it or leave it..LOL

... how smart it is to put one's ScotlandYard_Dick in the mouth of a woman who is feeling resentful or ill-used?

If you are getting unsolicited emails that seek your patronage by citing money woes, it speaks to the level of the market you frequent. If a lady uses desperation as a component of her marketing, well... let's just say desperate people aren't known for making sound decisions. And my personal risk mgmt program would prevent me from responding to such a msg. Thankfully, you have your world & I have mine.  

Dumbjock

I get what you mean, but your use of certain words imply you are a jackass. If this is true or not, I do not know.

If a provider calls you, then you have the bargaining chip, if you want to call it that. Its like a pro sporting event. If the team sucks, or some "needs" to get rid of a ticket, you can make a deal for less than face value. If you go looking for that ticket, you may have to pay full price.

If she comes to me, looking to see if I want to P4P, then I will ask her to give me a special rate for her needing the money, not me needing to see her.

a "Scotland Yard" dick... just a dick.

My personal shopper sends me newsletters to keep me updated on new apparel I may be interested in.

My auto shop sent me a $1000 "savings card" to apply to any service my car needs.

Are they both floundering, being here in Vegas with one of the worst economies in the nation?  Yes, but they aren't begging me for money and telling me of their financial woes even though it's understood that they are having hardships.

I've had my share of hardships--haven't we all?  But I would never email, text or call a patron to ask if he wanted to see me.  As a patron, I would feel that was an invasion of my privacy, crossing boundaries and just plain awkward

I realize times are hard right now, and maybe I'm being a bit harsh, but I find it inappropriate to do what these ladies are doing.  Really, I feel very mean spirited saying this but that's not my intention--it just lacks professionalism and respecting a patron's personal life and boundaries.  

If a companion is going through hard times, she should, as LuckyIrishPrick mentioned, offer some "specials" and market market market, post post post and use a professional business mind.

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Well you pretty much reveal yourself with "others swallow their pride". So basically what you are saying is that for you, your hobby is to exert as much power and control over women as existing economic conditions allow you to. Never mind that her rent hasn't gone down, her utilities haven't decreased, but prices at the supermarket have gone up. For you, the current economy means you get to indulge your need to feel superior to us poor wimmins to an even greater degree than you otherwise would in a better economic environment.

Ok, I get it now. You are just a piece of crap schmuck. And its guys like you that encourage me to never...EVER...even bother to continue corresponding with a bargain hunting cheap worthless fvck like yourself.