"Your"....full of shit!
A back-and-forth I had on a thread below got me to thinking and I don't believe it's been discussed here, at least not in a long time.
What is it about the power of the word "Cunt?" There's not doubt it's one of the strongest and sometimes offensive words that can be used. The female version of "the N Word." But why? I'm not saying it isn't raw and often used in a demeaning way, especially when used as an expletive ("You cunt!").
On the other hand, I was with one of my favorites a week ago and while we were fucking she yelled out, "Fuck my cunt!" It was hot. So I guess it's all in the context.
Here are a few more examples, from the thread below:
I called hotplants "a judgemental cunt." If you read the context it was meant to be provocatively funny. She didn't get the humor, or the context in which I also called Gambler a "cocksucker."
I also quoted a recent comment by a provider who said she liked to get fucked in her "CUNT," among other orifices. Clearly it didn't bother her to use the word.
Last, I quoted a few lines featuring a definition of the word lifted from "Lady Chatterley's Lover," one of the great works of 20th century fiction. Here it is, so you don't have to go looking (Mellors to Lady Chatterley):
"Th'art good cunt, though, aren't ter? Best bit o' cunt left on earth. When ter likes! When tha'rt willin'!'
`What is cunt?' she said.
`An' doesn't ter know? Cunt! It's thee down theer; an' what I get when I'm i'side thee, and what tha gets when I'm i'side thee; it's a` as it is, all on't.'
`All on't,' she teased. `Cunt! It's like fuck then.'
`Nay nay! Fuck's only what you do. animals fuck. But cunt's a lot more than that. It's thee, dost see: an' tha'rt a lot besides an animal, aren't ter? - even ter fuck? Cunt! Eh, that's the beauty o' thee, lass!'"
OK, so why should "Cunt" have greater power than "Twat," which is pretty raw, or "Pussy?" Is there something more primal about it? Or is it just the history of its usage?
Is there an equivalent for "Penis?" I don't think so. Cock, dick, schlong, etc. don't have the same iconic power. The Cunning Linguist solicits your thoughts on the matter.
It becomes a fighting word. So is "prick". There are many words like it.
It is all contextual.
but he has it all wrong, not about Hotplants, she was being a judgmental cunt, but I am certainly NOT a cocksucker, I will confess to being a cuntsucker however. lol
Actually cunt seems to have a lot more power than any other word I can think of except the word "nigger" Some women just go off the rails whenever they hear the word, much more than calling them a bitch or a whore. After a bit of reflection though, I have to admit that while I call many of my friends here a bitch (London) or a whore (Terrilyn) in a good spirited way, but I can't think of anytime that I have ever called a woman a cunt in a "friendly" way. So maybe it is not contextual after all?
I guess it's time for a reprise of Deadwood cocksucker references
That doesn't mean others don't. Suppose, the term pussy is more of an endearment term than cunt. If majority of society use term as curse word or as derogatory term, then it becomes one.
For example '"he is a pussy'" is generally considered a derogatory term while she has beautiful pussy is not. It is all contextual. Not to be confused with sexual.
Use the word "cunt" in a non derogatory manner.
Sticking with the "Deadwood" theme, here's how "cunt" can be used between men.
And, yes, I'd say it's derogatory
He is a prick. Doesn’t it?
Yeah - a Deadwood fan!
Tom, you stupid cunt, Liverpool are twice as good as Wiggan.
Jaysus Mick, you fat cunt, do some fucking pressups and put down the chips!!
Look at that drunken cunt Alan, will you? He's passed out and pissed himself again!
Pretty damn common over there.
Guess it's why I always picture "cunt" as derogatory. Society, through whatever means, has placed the public use of the word "cunt" as a slam word. Sexually and in the privacy of one's abode, I think it's equally a turn on but if only used by the woman.
that it's all in the hard consonants. Makes for really aggressive sounding words (Mothfucker, Cocksucker... Cunt).
"Pussy" is soft an sweet. "Cunt" is abrasive and raw.
As far as usage goes, "Cunt" is rarely used in an endearing way except for some esoteric prose or poetry.
You know he old joke, don't you?
The Pope is sitting around with a few Cradinals on a Sunday morning, doing the crossword puzzle.
He asks, "What's a four letter word for 'woman' that ends in 'u-n-t'?"
One of the Cardinals offers "A-U-N-T".
Pope says "Oh yeah. Anybody got an eraser?"
T w a t ! That 1 really pisses people off .
What is it about the power of the word "Cunt?" There's not doubt it's one of the strongest and sometimes offensive words that can be used. The female version of "the N Word." But why? I'm not saying it isn't raw and often used in a demeaning way, especially when used as an expletive ("You cunt!").
On the other hand, I was with one of my favorites a week ago and while we were fucking she yelled out, "Fuck my cunt!" It was hot. So I guess it's all in the context.
Here are a few more examples, from the thread below:
I called hotplants "a judgemental cunt." If you read the context it was meant to be provocatively funny. She didn't get the humor, or the context in which I also called Gambler a "cocksucker."
I also quoted a recent comment by a provider who said she liked to get fucked in her "CUNT," among other orifices. Clearly it didn't bother her to use the word.
Last, I quoted a few lines featuring a definition of the word lifted from "Lady Chatterley's Lover," one of the great works of 20th century fiction. Here it is, so you don't have to go looking (Mellors to Lady Chatterley):
"Th'art good cunt, though, aren't ter? Best bit o' cunt left on earth. When ter likes! When tha'rt willin'!'
`What is cunt?' she said.
`An' doesn't ter know? Cunt! It's thee down theer; an' what I get when I'm i'side thee, and what tha gets when I'm i'side thee; it's a` as it is, all on't.'
`All on't,' she teased. `Cunt! It's like fuck then.'
`Nay nay! Fuck's only what you do. animals fuck. But cunt's a lot more than that. It's thee, dost see: an' tha'rt a lot besides an animal, aren't ter? - even ter fuck? Cunt! Eh, that's the beauty o' thee, lass!'"
OK, so why should "Cunt" have greater power than "Twat," which is pretty raw, or "Pussy?" Is there something more primal about it? Or is it just the history of its usage?
Is there an equivalent for "Penis?" I don't think so. Cock, dick, schlong, etc. don't have the same iconic power. The Cunning Linguist solicits your thoughts on the matter.
Personally; "cunt" evokes thoughts of a scheming, duplicitous female who uses her sexuality too manipulate and hurt.
"Twat"; merely brings thoughts of brainless mucus membrane leaving snail tracks and stains where ever it goes.
"Pussy" is just a benign and much less clinical euphemism for vagina or vulva.
But if someone calls me The N Word, you'll be blacklisted forever in my book.
Those two words are most definitely not on the same level, believe me.
I've been called the N word by my brothers of another color many times .
They were smiling , all was well on my side , though I don't return the lingo .
I did a few times in kind , when I was younger , only with the guys , not the gals , no one
showed offense .
In my wisdom and respect I have gained from age , I now refrain .
I do see why , justifiably so , your feelings on the word are different than mine .
I've called a few guys cunt to their face . They especially care when they know it's the truth .
You know the missing line .
I've never been that angry with a woman .
Those two words are most definitely not on the same level, believe me.
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Just going to start by saying that it's hard to pick apart the connotation of any word (short of having documented history of said word) because we just take connotations for granted. They have that connotation because...well, they just do...lol.
Despite Mr. Mellors' exhortations to the contrary...'cunt' is inglorious and just crude. I'm not sure of the history of the word...but, I'd make a guess that 'fuck' and 'cunt' had similarly crude associations in those times (and were perhaps more incendiary then than now)? So he's taking something usually frowned upon as 'dirty' and trying to lend an aura of beauty and sensualism to it...as (if I'm remembering right) is his role in the book. So rather than proving that cunt CAN be a beautiful thing...he's basically just taking the crudest two words he can muster to make his point - which is, that what society finds dirty is actually very sensual and beautiful. But it doesn't mean that he had different associations of the word...just different ideas of sex than society.
Anyway, I don't find 'cunt' sexy or erotic. It's purely crude, that's all there is to it. To call a woman's 'cunt' a cunt is view her PURELY as a sexual object, in the crudest, most animalistic sense. Not in an erotic sense. Which some people might find erotic - again, in a purely animalistic sense, though.
Twat I find kind of diminutive...kind of like 'tacos' and 'sausages'. Pussy I prefer, but I find it a bit ridiculous to refer to mine that way. In conversation, I prefer 'ladyparts'. But, that's slightly old-fashioned and pussy is a bit more appropriate during sex...
The only word analogous to 'cunt' for males is 'dick'. Both refer to genitals, both can also be used as an insult. But to me, 'dick' is gentler...and it embodies a sense of masculinity. When you refer to a guy as a 'dick'...you mean that he's a jerk, he 'has balls', he has a bit too much testosterone, perhaps.
Maybe because guys celebrate their sexual prowess while the same can be frowned upon in a woman?
A feminist view is that use of that word reduces a woman to "a single body part". Nothing else matters, she can be insulted and disregarded as being a product of that one piece of her body. Even other words are more complex like "bitch" or "pussy" (the latter can be used to insult men as well).
It's not my view but it's a theory
I've rarely if ever called a woman a cunt. I have frequently called guys cunts. Especially my best friend, who I routinely call "you fucking cunt". There is an Australian band that made a song "I might be a cunt, but I'm not a fucking cunt"
There is a great old film starring Daniel Day Lewis called My Left Foot.
In the movie, Lewis plays a young man who is totally paralyzed from birth except for the use of his left foot which foot empowers him to learn to do all the things in life a man must do and then some.
There is a scene where his caretaker: A gorgeous young woman whom Lewis have obviously developed a crush on tells Lewis that she is engaged to be married.
The next scene took my soul from the depths of sorrow to the acme of relief.
Lewis, whose character is prone to stutter anyways, goes:
cun, cun, cun, cun, cun, cun...gratulations
Such is the power of the word.
I fell asleep reading the novel.
You are exactly whom the person had in mind who said, "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt."
Short enough for you to comprehend, genius?
Your such a "Cunt"
It's "you're" not "your," dumb-ass. Keep it up Clowny, "you're" making a fine sprint back into contention for a SPOTY. I guess we should be grateful "you're" even able to spell cunt.
BTW, here's Dungy's latest self portrait. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black![]()
"Your"....full of shit!
You are so weak it's almost amusing. Almost. But actually just sad and boring. And you still can't spell. Stupid and gameless is no way to go through life, sonny. You need to take a hiatus. A long one, like your loser butt buddy FAGCUOF is planning.
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Hi There Guys
We say it all the time down under and I say it losely here in the States.
I luff the shock factor.
Aussie Alley
xo
Good point Alley. I've heard it used much more in the UK as well, without the same degree of negative connotation we apply to it here in the States. Not so terribly uncommon to call a mate a "cunt" while slapping on the back, laughing and buying him (or her) a pint. Totally different here!
An older guy (probably one of my dad's friends) asked me, "What's the difference between a pussy and a cunt?" I said something like, "I don't know. Same thing!"
He said, "Nope. A pussy is a nice warm, wet, wonderful thing. A cunt is the thing that owns it!"
I believe he was going through a divorce at the time.
How can anyone read that crap? WTF language is that? I couldn't even read a sentence, let alone the book!
But I saw the movie with Silvia Krystal (I actually liked "Young Lade Chatterley" with Harley McBride better
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Nice job putting yourself in the same category as The Dungbeetle, though at least you read it. Sorry to go all literary on yore ass. But to answer the question, Mellors is Welsh and speaks the rural version of Welsh-accented English.
...because I agree with PS. Shit, every time I read the word "ter", I thought of TER. LOL.
He wasn't talking about theeroticreview?
I thought lady Chatterley was provider # 1.
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I know her. She's still working in NY even though she's radioactive. But if you want her contact info, well, anything for a pal.
You know, because the Lady Chatterley story is old, and all the "ter" references in the story, maybe she was the first one reviewed on ter. LOL
But actually I know who provider Id # 1 is (not personally but I have read the reviews.)
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And standard American English.
But that hurt man! Comparing me with dungy! Ouch!
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I was on the Big Island with a friend who lives in Puna. I asked him for the definition of "dakine." He said, "Well, bra, it's 'dakine you want, dakine dats good. You know, dakine!"
Ricky Gervais:
There are only 2 good reasons for calling someone a cunt...
1. If you really mean it.
2. If you don't really mean it.
I'd have to concur.
C.U.N.T. means = Cannot Understand Normal Thinking!
That is why the word has so much power, when used
in a negative manner.
For a long time in the English language (when English was largely a Germanic based language), "cunt" was literally the only word used to describe female genitalia,and it wasn't necessarily considered a vulgar word. Then England was invaded and occupied by the French during the Norman Conquest of 1066. Norman French (which was a Latin based language) soon became the only language spoken by the aristocracy and upper classes, while the surf and lower classes were still speaking Old English. Thus, it was considered to be a crude language; Words like "fuck" and "cunt" were (and still are) considered to be the most vulgar words of all, especially when compared to Latin based equivalents like "fornicate" and "vagina.
The Cunning Linguist applauds your contribution to this thread.
C U Next Tuesday or Thursday
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