: TER General Board Discussion : Re: So the CLIENT needs "lots of patience"? I am paying you but I cant think of MY pleasure? WTF?

GFE-Massage See my TER Reviews 2231 reads

posted 11 years ago

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My ATF client showed me a great technique to massage the vagina. He calls it de-bitching the women and it makes them stress free and content which results in her becoming less prone to nagging.

It is a long massage of the pussy lips, clit and the g- spot. There is also a lot of stimulation at the opening of the pussy. The massage is very gentle and the finger penetration very slow. Nothing fast and furious. There is no oral involved as the fingers are more precise than the tongue. There is no lube used and touching of the vagina happens only after it's moist. And it is made moist by massaging and feather touching the groin area and breasts.

I was in heaven during the massage smiling for a couple of days after that.

The guy needs to have lot of patience and not think about his pleasure. Best to do it after the guy has come once.

JackDunphy 1005 reads

posted 11 years ago

2 / 30

So the CLIENT needs "lots of patience"? I am paying you but I cant think of MY pleasure? WTF?

No thanks sweetie.

I think I'll stick with my remedy of de-bitching.

A sock and some good duct tape.

electr0nsrealm 45 Reviews 903 reads

posted 11 years ago

3 / 30

De-bitching? LOL

I've done this as part of some sensual massages I've given to special ladies. The slow tease and build to a finish can bring spectacular results. I usually have some grapeseed oil as a lubricant as that's what I use for massage. Of course you don't want to use too much oil internally on a lady if you are following up with some penetration involving latex condoms. Oil + latex = degradation of protection. Some water based lube works best for latex fun. BTW massage oil and fc's are fine as they aren't latex based (another yay! for fc's).

Before the onslaught of comments about why I would do this in a p4p context my answers are:
1) I love giving sensual massages - especially to special friends, and I like staying in practice
2) every time I've done it amazing sex follows soon after
3) I love getting sensual massages too and I find that showing someone how nice it feels can make it easier for them to reciprocate

As far as "de-bitching women" I appreciate the concept but my women aren't bitchy to begin with (that's why I see them LOL). But I fully understand what you are trying to say as I have said the same thing my whole life - "massage feels awesome!". Cheers.

Clrw_guy06 974 reads

posted 11 years ago

4 / 30

Paying attention

I love paying attention to the vagina. Being patience and giving that type of massage doesn't lend itself to a timed one hour tryst, so that is usually reserved for the FWB who is staying the night. Hard to be patient when you are on the clock.

electr0nsrealm 45 Reviews 1001 reads

posted 11 years ago

5 / 30

Re: So the CLIENT needs "lots of patience"? I am paying you but I cant think of MY pleasure? WTF?

Jack - LMAO. And so it begins...

Posted By: JackDunphy

No thanks sweetie.

I think I'll stick with my remedy of de-bitching.

A sock and some good duct tape.

SoftlySarah See my TER Reviews 1039 reads

posted 11 years ago

6 / 30

Re: So the CLIENT needs "lots of patience"? I am paying you but I cant think of MY pleasure? WTF?

There is a universal law that says what you put out you get back tenfold. Most people have yet to come to terms with this wisdom.

Epsilon_Eridani 858 reads

posted 11 years ago

7 / 30

I've been doing this for years...

it's called DATY, but I do it to make the woman happy.

Like you said... once the woman is happy... boy, I get a real nice return on my efforts. Sometimes beyond the effort I put in.

The point is... it's a 2 way street regardless if it's paid or not.

Posted By: SoftlySarah

There is a universal law that says what you put out you get back tenfold. Most people have yet to come to terms with this wisdom.

Epsilon_Eridani 808 reads

posted 11 years ago

8 / 30

I hate the term "de-bitching"

I call it DATY with love. Yea, it may sound corny, but the way I've been doing this for years... the ladies reciprocate with great sensual sex!

Like I said in another post... it's a 2 way street, regardless of what that Dunphy guy says.

Posted By: GFE-Massage

My ATF client showed me a great technique to massage the vagina. He calls it de-bitching the women and it makes them stress free and content which results in her becoming less prone to nagging.

It is a long massage of the pussy lips, clit and the g- spot. There is also a lot of stimulation at the opening of the pussy. The massage is very gentle and the finger penetration very slow. Nothing fast and furious. There is no oral involved as the fingers are more precise than the tongue. There is no lube used and touching of the vagina happens only after it's moist. And it is made moist by massaging and feather touching the groin area and breasts.

I was in heaven during the massage smiling for a couple of days after that.

The guy needs to have lot of patience and not think about his pleasure. Best to do it after the guy has come once.

Dr Who revived 845 reads

posted 11 years ago

9 / 30

Not when it comes to P4P

No issues with applying your promulgation IRL with a gal that isn't a hooker.

But here in the P4P world to suggest that it's important to get your paid hooker off (or please her as you prefer to call it) will somehow enhance a dudes hour (or 2) of BBBJCIMNQNS is just not true.

Sorry if your reality doesn't fit many others here. But fear not my friend...no shortage of guys believing your reality either. As well I'm sure you buy into the "pineapple makes your cum taste sweet". Of course it does...a few of the gals have even said so LOL (But the ones who don't give a shit about your ego tell a very different story).

How'd you do on Sarah's test?

Posted By: Epsilon_Eridani

I call it DATY with love. Yea, it may sound corny, but the way I've been doing this for years... the ladies reciprocate with great sensual sex!

Like I said in another post... it's a 2 way street, regardless of what that Dunphy guy says.

Posted By: GFE-Massage

My ATF client showed me a great technique to massage the vagina. He calls it de-bitching the women and it makes them stress free and content which results in her becoming less prone to nagging.

It is a long massage of the pussy lips, clit and the g- spot. There is also a lot of stimulation at the opening of the pussy. The massage is very gentle and the finger penetration very slow. Nothing fast and furious. There is no oral involved as the fingers are more precise than the tongue. There is no lube used and touching of the vagina happens only after it's moist. And it is made moist by massaging and feather touching the groin area and breasts.

I was in heaven during the massage smiling for a couple of days after that.

The guy needs to have lot of patience and not think about his pleasure. Best to do it after the guy has come once.

MarkusKetterman 150 Reviews 799 reads

posted 11 years ago

10 / 30

While it is true that what you give is often returned.....

P4P distorts this dynamic - because on one side of the balance there is already an amount of cash, that should be reciprocated in terms of quality of service.....

I enjoy pleasuring a woman so I will make an effort but it will be more limited in time and scope in P4P than in personal sex....

Durhamdrew 19 Reviews 1012 reads

posted 11 years ago

11 / 30

Re: So the CLIENT needs "lots of patience"? I am paying you but I cant think of MY pleasure? WTF?

Nope! No 3 K envelope on the nightstand .... I'll keep looking...

hbyist+truth=;( 908 reads

posted 11 years ago

12 / 30

Put away the sock and duct tape, just hand me some money

And I will smile big and do my job.

hbyist+truth=;( 889 reads

posted 11 years ago

13 / 30

I have a great technique in massaging a cock

I call it de-assholing a trick and it involves a blow job. Works every time.

electr0nsrealm 45 Reviews 874 reads

posted 11 years ago

14 / 30

Re: I have a great technique in massaging a cock

LMAO. This is quickly becoming a epic thread.

Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(

I call it de-assholing a trick and it involves a blow job. Works every time.

inicky46 61 Reviews 784 reads

posted 11 years ago

15 / 30

Sounds good to me. As long as it doesn't involve prostate massage. -e-

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wayward50133 See my TER Reviews 642 reads

posted 11 years ago

16 / 30

Hahaha Yep. Damn straight. ELOLM

Do what I say biotch.......

Ok just kidding hahahaha......wait, am I? LOL

-- Modified on 8/16/2014 6:17:52 PM

Epsilon_Eridani 871 reads

posted 11 years ago

17 / 30

long winded response

trying to make yourself look bad?

It wasn't "Sarah's test" as you stated, it was provided by queendom.com. besides that, what does taking that test suggested by Sarah have anything to do with the original post?

it looks like you are posting crap for the sake of posting crap. can you do better next time?

Posted By: Dr Who revived

No issues with applying your promulgation IRL with a gal that isn't a hooker.

But here in the P4P world to suggest that it's important to get your paid hooker off (or please her as you prefer to call it) will somehow enhance a dudes hour (or 2) of BBBJCIMNQNS is just not true.

Sorry if your reality doesn't fit many others here. But fear not my friend...no shortage of guys believing your reality either. As well I'm sure you buy into the "pineapple makes your cum taste sweet". Of course it does...a few of the gals have even said so LOL (But the ones who don't give a shit about your ego tell a very different story).

How'd you do on Sarah's test?

Posted By: Epsilon_Eridani

I call it DATY with love. Yea, it may sound corny, but the way I've been doing this for years... the ladies reciprocate with great sensual sex!

Like I said in another post... it's a 2 way street, regardless of what that Dunphy guy says.

Posted By: GFE-Massage

My ATF client showed me a great technique to massage the vagina. He calls it de-bitching the women and it makes them stress free and content which results in her becoming less prone to nagging.

It is a long massage of the pussy lips, clit and the g- spot. There is also a lot of stimulation at the opening of the pussy. The massage is very gentle and the finger penetration very slow. Nothing fast and furious. There is no oral involved as the fingers are more precise than the tongue. There is no lube used and touching of the vagina happens only after it's moist. And it is made moist by massaging and feather touching the groin area and breasts.

I was in heaven during the massage smiling for a couple of days after that.

The guy needs to have lot of patience and not think about his pleasure. Best to do it after the guy has come once.

Dr Who revived 716 reads

posted 11 years ago

18 / 30

So you do think the pineapple helps

As I suspected.

Bet you also scored a 50 on Sarah's test.

Keep on working on those social skills. There may not be much time left for you.... But I'm rooting for you.

Posted By: Epsilon_Eridani

trying to make yourself look bad?

It wasn't "Sarah's test" as you stated, it was provided by queendom.com. besides that, what does taking that test suggested by Sarah have anything to do with the original post?

it looks like you are posting crap for the sake of posting crap. can you do better next time?

Posted By: Dr Who revived

No issues with applying your promulgation IRL with a gal that isn't a hooker.

But here in the P4P world to suggest that it's important to get your paid hooker off (or please her as you prefer to call it) will somehow enhance a dudes hour (or 2) of BBBJCIMNQNS is just not true.

Sorry if your reality doesn't fit many others here. But fear not my friend...no shortage of guys believing your reality either. As well I'm sure you buy into the "pineapple makes your cum taste sweet". Of course it does...a few of the gals have even said so LOL (But the ones who don't give a shit about your ego tell a very different story).

How'd you do on Sarah's test?

Posted By: Epsilon_Eridani

I call it DATY with love. Yea, it may sound corny, but the way I've been doing this for years... the ladies reciprocate with great sensual sex!

Like I said in another post... it's a 2 way street, regardless of what that Dunphy guy says.

Posted By: GFE-Massage

My ATF client showed me a great technique to massage the vagina. He calls it de-bitching the women and it makes them stress free and content which results in her becoming less prone to nagging.

It is a long massage of the pussy lips, clit and the g- spot. There is also a lot of stimulation at the opening of the pussy. The massage is very gentle and the finger penetration very slow. Nothing fast and furious. There is no oral involved as the fingers are more precise than the tongue. There is no lube used and touching of the vagina happens only after it's moist. And it is made moist by massaging and feather touching the groin area and breasts.

I was in heaven during the massage smiling for a couple of days after that.

The guy needs to have lot of patience and not think about his pleasure. Best to do it after the guy has come once.

Epsilon_Eridani 987 reads

posted 11 years ago

19 / 30

posting in the wrong thread

discuss the queendom.com test in the correct thread.

are you that dense?

if you had taken a moment of your time away from your playground, you would have noticed my response to the queendom.com test thread.

go ahead and read it. can you comprehend that marching order?

now back to the DATY thread...

Posted By: Dr Who revived

As I suspected.

Bet you also scored a 50 on Sarah's test.

Keep on working on those social skills. There may not be much time left for you.... But I'm rooting for you.

Posted By: Epsilon_Eridani

trying to make yourself look bad?

It wasn't "Sarah's test" as you stated, it was provided by queendom.com. besides that, what does taking that test suggested by Sarah have anything to do with the original post?

it looks like you are posting crap for the sake of posting crap. can you do better next time?

Dr Who revived 811 reads

posted 11 years ago

20 / 30

Amazing...and yet you still followed the bouncing ball

So...did you get that 50?

I'm impressed that you were able to make the multi-thread connection.

How about the pineapples? Or is that asking too much from you?

Marching order....from you? LOL

Posted By: Epsilon_Eridani

discuss the queendom.com test in the correct thread.

are you that dense?

if you had taken a moment of your time away from your playground, you would have noticed my response to the queendom.com test thread.

go ahead and read it. can you comprehend that marching order?

now back to the DATY thread...

Posted By: Dr Who revived

As I suspected.

Bet you also scored a 50 on Sarah's test.

Keep on working on those social skills. There may not be much time left for you.... But I'm rooting for you.

Posted By: Epsilon_Eridani

trying to make yourself look bad?

It wasn't "Sarah's test" as you stated, it was provided by queendom.com. besides that, what does taking that test suggested by Sarah have anything to do with the original post?

it looks like you are posting crap for the sake of posting crap. can you do better next time?

Robert_BadenPowell 1017 reads

posted 11 years ago

21 / 30

I prefer the way you described it.

And yes, "massage feels awesome." I enjoy giving sensual massages also, and it does tend to put both of us in the right frame of mind for what follows.

Charlie Tweeder 97 Reviews 804 reads

posted 11 years ago

22 / 30

I have to agree, I am all about doing my best to

ensure that they lady I am with is enjoying herself, as well as me. I am naturally a giver, and get very excited supplying pleasure to the peron I am with; however, I can not fathom paying for an hour and spending 30 to 45 minutes doing this.

morecoffee 780 reads

posted 11 years ago

23 / 30

Client?...She never said client

I think she is talking in general about pussy massage. She said "De-bitching YOUR women." When did a provider become your women.

morecoffee 799 reads

posted 11 years ago

24 / 30

You are a working gal, she is talking of SO I think

she said "your" woman. I am sure you are not a client's woman

MissMarieM See my TER Reviews 750 reads

posted 11 years ago

25 / 30

Ha! Exactly.

It distorts things in my head too. I had a sugar daddy who was omg SO good in bed! Later we got together for one random night and I couldn't believe what a demanding prick he was. He was definitely the same.

Paying + reasonably attractive + appreciative = A+
Reasonably attractive + appreciative = Wait, why am I giving you something to appreciate? Lo

HookerWithAHeartOfTinFoil 738 reads

posted 11 years ago

26 / 30

Question: Are we allowed to DE-COCK the trick, if more traditional forms of de-assholing fail?

END OF MESSAGE

Tobi Telford See my TER Reviews 706 reads

posted 11 years ago

27 / 30

Yeah she did. Her first three words were "my ATF client." -e-

END OF MESSAGE

mrfisher 111 Reviews 793 reads

posted 11 years ago

28 / 30

I hope you washed it off first. eom

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chrissykisses See my TER Reviews 911 reads

posted 11 years ago

29 / 30

Massage

I have a gentleman friend who specializes in giving me a 13 minute clitoral massage It makes him almost as happy as it makes me!

XOXO
CK

2labman 26 Reviews 744 reads

posted 11 years ago

30 / 30

I agree with that in general...

That in P4P the focus should be on the client's satisfaction, as that is the value proposition in the transaction. Certainly the provider's pleasure is a major factor, and investments there pay back well, but if you're talking about very lengthy (very patient) massages, then that time might be compensated for OTC.

If I know that I'm going to be getting a lot of OTC in a session with a provider, I'll go all out to treat her like a civvie GF in terms of extended foreplay, massages, lots of chat time, getting her a drink or a snack, etc. But in a one or two hour session, there's not time for those aspects and the main attraction which is what the envelope is about.

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