I have no real quarrel with Ms. Yup Its An Alias. I agree with her basic points:
- "Viagra is NOT a sex toy, it is a DRUG", with attendant side effects and risks.
- "talk to your Doctor, if you don't need it don't do it"
I have no information on her other points, and can only speculate. She claims that in her experience, 90% of men who use Viagra don't really need it. This seems high to me, but then, the heavy marketing of these drugs may have had a bigger effect than I imagine. As for the "baseball bat" problem, I suspect it may have something to do with men who abuse their mighty erections by pounding away without mercy. But if Ms. Yup claims she can tell an overly-stiff, chemically enhanced erection from a natural one, I won't argue.
Basic message from her and me is - guys use a little common sense.
filmat11
-- Modified on 9/4/2007 10:47:01 AM
I know it's been asked and answered before but where is the best place online to order and which is best Viagra, Cialis or Levitra (or others). Thanks.
I know its been asked before, but did you even try the search?
-- DH
only take these if prescribed by a doctor. the side effects can be dangerous if not lethal.
And I'll tell you where to send th $10,000 money order.
how many different ways can you be told - DON'T take Vit V unless prescribed by a doctor.
First off, Vit V carries potentially risky side effects that you need to be aware of. Certain medical conditions - such as coronary artery disease, can put you at risk of a heart attack if you take Vit V.
Secondly, if you DON'T need Viagra, the ONLY thing you will succeed in doing is PISSING the provider smooth off. Seriously. It HURTS when a guy who does NOT have a problem getting an erection takes Viagra. Its like being f/ked with a baseball bat. Don't get me wrong, I am very glad for the guys who really do have erectile difficulties. I am glad that for them, Viagra often restores a sex life they thought lost to them. For the other 90% of the men I've seen who were on Viagra and had no need of it - I NEVER see them again. Thanks, but I will PASS on having my vagina bludgeoned by a cock that is so hard that it can't shape itself to the contours of my vagina.
So by all means, buy something online that might be Viagra, but more likely is a sugar tablet - or worse. Show up for your appointment and watch the provider's eyes glaze over as she realizes that yet another dickhead has called upon the Viagra Gods, and she's in for an hour of being bludgeoned. But don't be shocked when she won't answer your e-mails again, or answer your phone calls. Don't be shocked when she drop kicks you out the door the minute you cum either - or even before that.
I tried V & C for a while when I was on certain meds, and I found the results to be mixed-- and as an after-effect, they made me dangerously dizzy and faint. The meds have been changed and switched, I no longer need the help.
It's news to me that guys could be too hard too long for a lady because of Vitamin V. I mean, I thought maybe what I heard had been ejaculatory difficulties, or guys who didn't cum during greek, which really would be torture for the woman.
It seems to me even unnecessary blue pills wouldn't be so bad if the guy were gentler about it.
The reason why it can be painful for the woman is that the only real effect of viagra is to increase blood flow to the penis. If bloodflow is already normal though, then the drastic increase in bloodflow causes an otherwise healthy erection to become an unyielding rigid erection. Even when a man is fully erect, the head of the penis remains somewhat soft and pliable. This allows it to shape itself to the contours of a woman's vagina without discomfort to her. When a man's penis becomes too hard, it is no longer pliable, and the effect is that rather than shaping itself to a woman's contours, it bangs against those contours, and YES that hurts. Especially after a while.
Not only that, but the penis takes on a look and feel that is plain and simply unnatural. I've seen men with erections so hard that the head of their cock turned a light shade of blue, and the skin was cool to the touch. Ever wrap a rubber band around the tip of your finger? That's what it looks like.
Although this effect is sometimes seen in men who do have erectile dysfunction, it can usually be compensated for by adjusting the dose until the right balance is found. In men who do not need Viagra, this is the inevitable result regardless of the dosage used because they are piling on above and beyond what they are already capable of.
...I used it as a backup when I first started as a safety net against nerves, but otherwise did not need it. It was strangely easy to get from a doctor to whom I was directed by Phizer (sp?). I would get a boner you could put through a door. Then I found I think I had a growing resistance to it (like you might get from taking aspirin or something) to the point you couldn't tell if I'd taken it or not. I haven't heard anybody else say something similar, so maybe I was imagining it.
DO NOT buy it online. You cannot get real medication without seeing a doctor.
(I never, however, had a provider refuse a session because of it. Honestly, I can't imagine you ever will, either.)
is there really a difference in the hardness?
so far in my life i have trouble finishing the first time i am with a woman... but then i've not been with that many.. i just don't want that to be mistaken with me taking v.
I'm not surprised you are using an alias with an attitude like that. I'm not quarreling with the advice to see a physician. But here are a few things to think about:
- I, like most potential clients, would never want to hurt you, bludgeon you, f*ck you with a baseball bat, etc.
- Some men who rarely use Viagra in their personal lives do use it with escorts. This is not because we want to hurt you. In my personal life, if I lose my erection for a few minutes or even longer, it's no big deal. My partner and I can keep doing what feels good and I don't worry about my erection and usually it comes back. No big deal.
- Condoms cut down on feeling so much that for some of us, an erection is very hard to maintain. And if I lose it, I start worrying about the time and that's pressure (admittedly self-imposed), which kills my enjoyment and basically guarantees that I won't get it back.
- I have seen escorts for years and in only one case have I had a provider complain about my use of Viagra. Usually the subject does not come up, and providers are appreciative that I can maintain an erection. But please note that:
- I never pound away for an hour just because I can. I always offer to take a rest or two during a session. I have never had providers behave as you are describing.
- This is a two-way street and understanding is needed on both sides. With your attitude, I doubt that much compassion or understanding is coming your client's way.
filmat11
"- This is a two-way street and understanding is needed on both sides. With your attitude, I doubt that much compassion or understanding is coming your client's way."
You would be completely wrong on that score. As I stated in my first post, if a gentleman genuinely benefits from the use of Viagra, not only do I not have a problem with that, then I am very happy for him. Viagra is a wonderful drug for the countless men who believed their sex life to be over until Viagra came along.
I am referring SPECIFICALLY to the men who have NO understanding of how Viagra works, and view it the same way they might view porn or a sex toy - a harmless way to enhance an already good sex life. Viagra is NOT a sex toy, it is a DRUG. If they can't understand its hazards and risks as applied to them, then I hope they can gain an understanding of how NOT fun the experience is for their partner.
This is a topic that has been discussed repeatedly on these discussion boards, and the consensus is always "talk to your Doctor, if you don't need it don't do it". All the posts to that effect just don't matter though.
Just like the ever persistent myth that size matters (it really, REALLY doesn't), the idea that Viagra is good for everyone just won't go away. If my VERY blunt and VERY descriptive response was too much for you though, well, I'm not going to apologize. I simply said very bluntly what has been expressed by other ladies many times in much gentler ways.
As to my attitude though, nope. You won't find a nicer, sweeter, and more enthusiastic lady than me. If you saw my reviews, you would know its true. For those men who do benefit from Viagra, I am as understanding as anyone could wish for. But when I encounter a man who didn't need it - and they are all too common - then no, I am neither understanding nor sympathetic for the often times frustrating session is about to occur for the both of us.
Sounds to me like we need to get Ms. Yup and Mr. filmat11 into the same room (or maybe mud pit) and see if they have a meeting of the minds ...
I'd wager that Mr. filmat11's V-enhaced still doesn't outlast Ms. Yup's strap on!! 
I have no real quarrel with Ms. Yup Its An Alias. I agree with her basic points:
- "Viagra is NOT a sex toy, it is a DRUG", with attendant side effects and risks.
- "talk to your Doctor, if you don't need it don't do it"
I have no information on her other points, and can only speculate. She claims that in her experience, 90% of men who use Viagra don't really need it. This seems high to me, but then, the heavy marketing of these drugs may have had a bigger effect than I imagine. As for the "baseball bat" problem, I suspect it may have something to do with men who abuse their mighty erections by pounding away without mercy. But if Ms. Yup claims she can tell an overly-stiff, chemically enhanced erection from a natural one, I won't argue.
Basic message from her and me is - guys use a little common sense.
filmat11
-- Modified on 9/4/2007 10:47:01 AM
If all you want is to get hard as can be, try the shots. I mean this only half-jokingly. Although some people may find their application difficult to conceive, in fact it is not that difficult to inject yourself and end up with an erection that requires nothing else. I can't imagine that that is what you really want, but believe me they work. In fact, I took one shot that landed me in the hospital emergency room with a straight-out woody thatwould not go down. LOL
My doc perscribed the shots but I've been reluctant to use them. What dose did you use, and what did they do at the ER to make it go down?
I can't remember the dose. The doc used epinephrine to lower the woody; unfortunately, it also made my blood pressure run sky-high and the urologist had to call in an emergency room doc.
A few comments about the shots,if your doc is recommending them
1. They do create an erection, but it is not a natural erection. The feeling that comes with an erection is reduced.
2. I felt that over time the shots reduced my sexual ability overall. I can't be sure, but that is the conclusion I reached.
3. I have used a special combination of drugs my urologist put together, as well as the drugs you can get by prescription at a pharmacy. Both had the same effect.
4. I have given the shots up in favor of Viagra. Viagra is not as good at keeping an erection, but whatever happens, it is you and not an artificial erection.