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MysteryAdmin 86 Reviews 64 reads
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Posted By: coeur-de-lion
Re: Since I live in OC, but also . . . .
hobby in Los Angeles, it means that on weekdays, I will sometimes have a commute of up to 90 minutes (or longer during rush hour) to LA to see a provider for two hours (five hours minimum round trip including the drive time).  If I lived in a more rural area like Redding or Fresno, where choices were few, I would probably be willing to drive further, too.  
I'm in a similar boat, except the distances are usually shorter.  San Francisco and San Jose are the main cities for me (akin to your driving to LA).   :)
 

 As far as seeing providers during business travel, it's important to have a provider or two who are reliable that will give you a positive reference.  Whenever I see indies, I leave them a nice tip and ask them to be a reference for me for no more than two times.  I also try to arrange the appointment before I ever leave SoCal, because as you have experienced, it's often difficult to arrange a session on the fly.  Agencies are looking for regular customers, so it's sometimes difficult when you are admittedly not a local resident where you are trying to book.
Yeah, that makes sense.  Back then, references really weren't "a thing" and not anything I made use of or setup.  Oddly enough, now that I'm aware of references, etc, I pretty much don't travel at all.  lol  *sigh*

ElleTee2856 reads

......Do any of you have access to the "Provider Only" message board? I meet all of the criteria required to have access to this section of the site however I have been denied access from the TER staff for over a year.  

Initially I was told I wasn't currently active enough in the public message boards to have access to the "Provider Only" section, so I increased my posting activity. I've still been denied as recently as a month ago.  

 
Has anyone else come across this problem? How were you able to resolve it?  

Does this message board even exist? Is this just a ploy to get providers to be more active in the regular message boards?

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holystonethedeck53 reads

I know it exists because several providers that I am close with have mentioned it to me.  

 
You'd have to contact admin and find out what the issue is now that you've been active on the boards, although I had no idea that was required for access. I'm not the most active around but I really don't remember seeing any of your posts before this one.

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coeur-de-lion56 reads

You're kidding us, right?  You have 5 posts total for all time.  That's hardly an "increase in your posting activity."  The ladies that post regularly are usually consistent in the 10-20 range month after month.  When I got access to the RO board MANY years ago, I was told I had to post for a few months and engage with the other members.  There was also a review requirement, which I believe was a minimum of 10 reviews. Things may have changed since then, because that was a long time ago.  

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OldRanger50 reads

Please note that she has just short of two pages on the Minnesota Board with many having some valuable content.
This is not the only board. Maybe it is the only one TER looks at But !! !

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coeur-de-lion61 reads

get access to is national, not regional, just like the GD board.  I don't see how 39 posts on the Minnesota board qualify her to get access to the NATIONAL PO board.  Regional boards tend to be threADS, not discussion.  Promoting yourself in your local market is not the same as engaging with other members over a broader spectrum of the membership here.  

 
I looked at her MN posts and her average since she started is 1.5 per month on THAT board.  More recently, most of her posts have been about her and her STD prevention and testing.  How inviting.  Lol

 
If you disagree with me that she has some work to do to qualify, exactly what do you think she has done to be granted access now.  Remember, she is the one who posted a few weeks ago that TER staff are the ones who assign the numerical scores on reviews.  Does that sound as clueless to you as it does to me?

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ElleTee53 reads

Well I meet all the requirements listed by the website itself so..... 🤷‍♀️

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coeur-de-lion63 reads

board participation is a judgment call, there is no set number.  When I was new and trying to get access to the RO board, one of the support people told me they also evaluate on login frequency.  One thing that can improve your frequency is to log onto your account at least once a day, even for a short period of time, rather than once every few days.  That way, you get more a variety of other members to chat with, because some people are limited on when they can log on due to their work schedule, so there are different people here each day depending on the time of day it is.

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John_Laroche60 reads

seems enough, considering how few providers actually contribute anything but threADs, LOL

 
Of course, she'll be shunned on the PO board in any case because of her open BB policy.

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holystonethedeck59 reads

I know a lady who is definitely a member of the PO board who has zero presence on any of the public boards.

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OldRanger62 reads

She is not  a K Girl so nothing else seems to matter I guess.
Guess she gets the same treatment from him as Bia.

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coeur-de-lion53 reads

she is right about something, and disagree if I think she is wrong, the same as I do with everyone here.   She's a very nice person and we have exchanged some very cordial PM's.  I have also recommended her and her sister to others on my Regional Board.    I'm just a straight shooter and tell it like it is.  I don't suck up to providers just because they are providers, and if they want to be friendly with me, they have to be able to tolerate some honesty, which they seldom get from the fawning customer crowd.

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ElleTee92 reads

I have way more than 5 posts

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QueenBia54 reads

I would contact TER to inquire as to why you are still unable to access. TER has been good to me by always responding to my inquires. All you have to do ask. Best of luck to you.

This is what is posted:
The minimum criteria to be considered for admission to the PO Board is three (3) reviews. TER may consider additional information based on your history before granting access as this is an unmoderated board. To get access please e-mail us at [email protected] with your TER username and the TERID to your reviews. Please put "Provider only board access" in the subject line and make this request from the same email address that is on your website or advertisements.

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looking491855 reads

I have not seen Elle yet but plan to in the next few weeks. I can say she reply's to P-411 and Ter messages quickly, and professionally. In this day and time we need to promote and help quality providers.  

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coeur-de-lion55 reads

is still a "quality provider" AFTER you see her?   Lol

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Steve_Trevor55 reads

that can help answer that question.  Lol

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coeur-de-lion59 reads

she had no reviews between January and May of this year, and none since the May review, which was her lowest score ever for service even though the narrative appears better than the score.  I would like to hear from Looking, who we know from this board, either by his review or a post, before taking the plunge myself.  I don't give a lot of credit to "old" reviews (over 5 or 6 months), so those from previous years mean nothing to me in regards to a decision to see her.  I have known plenty of providers that burned out or otherwise went downhill in less than six months.  Even though Looking is currying a little favor before he goes (which I can't blame him for), I would still like to read his review AFTER the session has actually been consummated, even though my post was not overly-serious.   Lol

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Steve_Trevor63 reads

I think it’s interesting (actually kinda weird) that you’re going to base your decision to see a provider far from your home, whose rate is about double what you’re used to paying, on one review (or just a post) from someone with a total of four reviews over 3-1/2 years.

 
I know you’ve got lots of money (as you’ve told us many times), but traveling to Minnesota will cost some bucks (or FMTY if you do that instead).  I’d think you’d at least consider the provider’s review history, which includes several reviews from reviewers with a lot more reviews than looking’s four or the two total reviews from her most recent reviewer.  

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coeur-de-lion66 reads

at varying price ranges, when I travel to other cities on business where they don't have Kgirl or Thai agencies, so I'm always looking for new options before the next trip.  I always use an alias when reviewing indies, I will do a half-dozen reviews, then change the alias.  I can maintain complete anonymity for CDL this way.  

 
I would never get on a plane and go anywhere for the sole purpose of seeing a provider, it's always in connection with business that brings me to her town, and the costs are a deductible business expense.   I do business periodically in Minneapolis, St. Paul, and Duluth (Duluth is summer only - Lol)

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MysteryAdmin57 reads

Posted By: coeur-de-lion
I would never get on a plane and go anywhere for the sole purpose of seeing a provider, it's always in connection with business that brings me to her town, and the costs are a deductible business expense.
There was a time when I used to go on over-night "trips" to see a provider.  I think the farthest I ever traveled was to Houston to see Isis Nile.   That was pretty much a cluster-fuck trip because I got lost and didn't get to actually see her until the next morning, before I got on the plane to come home.  lol   Outside of that, I've traveled to a handful of different cities, mostly on the West coast and in the South West.  Oddly enough, the one time I tried to see a provider while on a business trip, I couldn't find an agency that would send one to me!  lol    

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coeur-de-lion56 reads

hobby in Los Angeles, it means that on weekdays, I will sometimes have a commute of up to 90 minutes (or longer during rush hour) to LA to see a provider for two hours (five hours minimum round trip including the drive time).  If I lived in a more rural area like Redding or Fresno, where choices were few, I would probably be willing to drive further, too.  

 
As far as seeing providers during business travel, it's important to have a provider or two who are reliable that will give you a positive reference.  Whenever I see indies, I leave them a nice tip and ask them to be a reference for me for no more than two times.  I also try to arrange the appointment before I ever leave SoCal, because as you have experienced, it's often difficult to arrange a session on the fly.  Agencies are looking for regular customers, so it's sometimes difficult when you are admittedly not a local resident where you are trying to book.

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MysteryAdmin65 reads

Posted By: coeur-de-lion
Re: Since I live in OC, but also . . . .
hobby in Los Angeles, it means that on weekdays, I will sometimes have a commute of up to 90 minutes (or longer during rush hour) to LA to see a provider for two hours (five hours minimum round trip including the drive time).  If I lived in a more rural area like Redding or Fresno, where choices were few, I would probably be willing to drive further, too.  
I'm in a similar boat, except the distances are usually shorter.  San Francisco and San Jose are the main cities for me (akin to your driving to LA).   :)
 

 As far as seeing providers during business travel, it's important to have a provider or two who are reliable that will give you a positive reference.  Whenever I see indies, I leave them a nice tip and ask them to be a reference for me for no more than two times.  I also try to arrange the appointment before I ever leave SoCal, because as you have experienced, it's often difficult to arrange a session on the fly.  Agencies are looking for regular customers, so it's sometimes difficult when you are admittedly not a local resident where you are trying to book.
Yeah, that makes sense.  Back then, references really weren't "a thing" and not anything I made use of or setup.  Oddly enough, now that I'm aware of references, etc, I pretty much don't travel at all.  lol  *sigh*

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looking491856 reads

How are you able to know so much about me ? With 55 + oks on p-411 you have no idea how much I travel, pay for providers or much of anything else. A source I trust ( and a well established Ter member ) Recommended her to me.

 So I am going to walk to Minnesota and pick up old coke bottles off the side of the road and hope I can cash them in and make enough to hopefully pay Ellies fee.  

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Steve_Trevor58 reads

that I was replying to CDL’s post, not to you… don’t you?

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ElleTee74 reads

I didn't have any reviews during that time because my house burned down at the end of February and all my senior/hospice rescue and foster dogs died so I wasn't exactly in the best space mentally. My dogs were my everything to me and I'm still completely shattered over what happened.  To this day I still can't go a full 24 hours without breaking down and sobbing uncontrollably.  

So yeah, that's why I didn't have many reviews for a few months. I didn't go on many dates during that time.

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lester_prairie53 reads

So sorry to hear.

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ElleTee68 reads

I know, me too. They're all gone, all my dogs are gone

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MNMischief60 reads

I can answer that for you. She is. Since my initial review of Elle in November 2021, I've seen her well over half a dozen times, the most recent in late May of '23. Obviously I'm not going to write up a review after every encounter, but I might provide an update on one someday. If anything, she's only gotten better- I'd easily give her 9/10's Appearance, 9's on performance (performance rating only limited by TER's guidelines) on my last handful of visits with her.

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MysteryAdmin69 reads

... I love your Tryst ad!  I imagine it would be quite fun spending time with you!

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lester_prairie61 reads

Twice.  She turned pro after that.  She's a very conscientious person.  And I believe generally well regarded in the Minnesota community.  

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BigBoyPants74 reads

I've seen Elle's ads for the last few years.

She is an attractive woman.

She trips enough flags for me that I have not, and will not, schedule with her.

When she first appeared on the scene she had an arguably reasonable rate for the area of around 400 dollars.  That has nearly doubled since then.

No arguments there, charge what the market will bear, that's how a capitalistic system works.  You may have priced yourself out of what I consider "going rate" if you will, but more power to you.

The red flags that come to mind are as follows.

Even if you look at her current ads she "ONLY", and has only,  done outcall.

What does this signify?

She is only willing to see you if you are fronting all the secondary costs, she will not put any time or effort into providing a setting for you, you must bear the hidden costs.  So be it, more power to her if the desperate amongst you are willing to pay for that.  I personally do not begrudge her doing that, I prefer a more professional provider.

So true or not, that immediately comes across as someone who dabbles and is not a serious provider.

There's a ton of mental health flags that come with that but you don't care about that, you're only interested in the hour or so that you spend with her.

Again, I wish her good luck, you won't be seeing me but no worries, there's plenty of other ladies who won't either, and they are doing just fine.

There's more to go one but it's late and I am tired so I will share one more thing.

You probably won't be able to find it now but her original ads show a tattoo on her bicep that says "#AOC", you probably wont find it on any of her current ads and that's probably because some other half intelligent monger cautioned her against it.

This is a lifestyle about illusion, I don't want to hear your political or religious views in the hour of fantasy I am paying you for, whether I agree or not.

So noble of you to love and rescue dogs, yay...

I have always had dogs my entire life and have always treated them as members of my family and better than most of the people I know, but I have never tried to use them as a "pay attention to me!' flag or to seek some kind of self reinforcing pat myself on the back.

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lester_prairie58 reads

Your preferences are noted, but I think this "didn't see 'er" review probably belongs in the Minnesota forum. Nothing you mention disqualifies her from participation in the provider only forum, which was the topic.

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MalachaiPhl56 reads

If you don’t want to see her don’t.  I’m not sure anyone cares about your rationale. Move along.

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Steve_Trevor71 reads

for Elle that she’s priced herself out of what you consider "going rate”.

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helixir61 reads

You seem really embittered about a lady you've never even met.

How many times do you say "more power to her" or the equivalent, only to add a new criticism in the next sentence.  

And how does one get the job of arbiter of "serious" providers vs. "dabblers"? Is there a checklist to distinguish one from the other? An exam? Can I help administer the test?

And isn't telling us how well you treat dogs pretty much the definition of patting yourself on the back?

Dude, put some ice on your aching dick, turn on some relaxing music, and chill. Life is good.

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