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Re: Should I stay or Should I Go......
Gus_n_MollyPugs 2 Reviews 2324 reads
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I'm proud to say I really have struck some nerves in the short time I've been here.  I've posted NO reviews, ZERO, NADA and I never will....I'll shout it from the goddamn rooftops....THESE ARE MY MEMORIES!!  haha!!!

 It's hilarious that my saying this, would piss someone off.    This website is an amazing, dynamic resource for a variety of different people and purposes.  Reviews are one of them, for those who need or want them...but that is NOT the sole purpose or use for this website.  

Many of my posts are indeed long...I freely admit, sometimes I go overboard, but I have always been able to write a lot of words fast;  sometimes it just takes on a life of its own. Sometimes I write well....sometimes I post stream of consciousness...sometimes I just write the first thing that pops in my head.    

 I respect the handful of grounded balanced, decent guys here who at least acknowledge my right to simply be me....they rightly point out I should cut back on the word count, but they accept me and point out...NO ONE is forced to read my shit.    

Yes I'm a shit stirrer, especially when there is actual SHIT to stir...but it's also hilarious how seriously some of you take yourselves and this whole...."Hobby".  The things some of you say and represent, all in the name of paying women for sex.... its as if this is the only thing, or the most important thing, in your life....and you're pissed at ME about what again?   You think I've never seen a provider (EVER)?   You think I'm sitting in a tiny room, giggling with a blow up doll?

I am laughing my crippled ass off regarding the conclusions some of you have drawn about me....you who take yourselves, and THIS whole "hobby" so goddamn seriously.   I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be FUN...not a strict serious routine    Hire Provider->Pay Provider->fuck provider->review Provider->   *repeat*      There's so much more to it...

-- Modified on 7/25/2024 12:45:43 AM

420Smoka4Eva 62 reads
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2 / 74

Reviews are the sole purpose of this website. Go join Reddit.

edinathens 64 reads
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3 / 74

"Trolls are a bit different. They have higher levels of something called negative social potency. This is a fancy way of saying that they like to cause mischief and suffering, along with the attention that entails.

https://edu.gcfglobal.org/en/thenow/what-is-trolling/1/

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 69 reads
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4 / 74

and humorous, so you see the irony in you posting this after posting several days ago that you will NEVER write a review of anyone, and that female orgasms require "genuine feeling" towards the other person?  I wonder if QB and other providers dress their vibrators up in little tuxedos to go out to dinner after they get an orgasm out of them?  I don't think there is anyone here who is PISSED at you.  If you think that, you are the one taking things here too seriously.  It's just that this board is populated with a lot of guys who call out bullshit.  It's not done in anger.   Many times, newbies don't even know they are posting bullshit.  Don't take it so seriously and personally.

-- Modified on 7/25/2024 7:19:01 AM

QueenBia See my TER Reviews 67 reads
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6 / 74

I’m glad you’re having fun here on TER! I myself enjoy the playful banter from time to time. TER is a wonderful adult community that I have always been proud to be apart of & pay for VIP membership.  

TER could be more provider friendly. We as providers should be notified when a new review is submitted & able to verify it is legit because there are douch bags who lie for free VIP it’s ridiculous. Also, why can we as providers not update our own profiles ? Let’s be honest because life changes constantly.  VIP that providers pay for should have perks.

I am a longtime VET 2005. I love TER! One thing you fail to realize is the fun fact that all TER reviews are fantasy. Let that sink in. You not writing reviews does not bother me. Many people who find me on TER & book me never share their fun with me either dear. No big deal. I don’t ask for reviews, but if you are going to write one please let me know, so I can read your reviews here because I love erotic literature!😈

durran421 65 reads
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7 / 74

More times than not, the review is simply an exaggerated story that the reviewer makes up and only WISHED had happened.  

After I came the 3rd time...........
After her 4th "O"............

Good grief man.... give us a break. The provider reads those and rolls her eyes so hard she can see her brain.
But...... those "client fantasy" reviews are still good for the provider so, call it a win for her.  
The reviews that I appreciate are the real ones from the clients who tell it as it happened (usually those are short and sweet) And also the ones that warn you from fake providers.

RespectfulRobert 64 reads
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8 / 74

Reviews may be the main purpose but certainly not the sole one. To me TER is about sharing information and reviews are just one way to accomplish that. Public board posts, private ones, pms, etc are all vehicles to share info.

RIFFRICHARDS 61 reads
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9 / 74

You're correct Robert. The guys here share reams of information on the boards as well as in reviews. The problem is that this guy Gus never shares any information, and now he's laughing at everyone and saying 'ha ha ha ha ha I'm going to keep spamming the boards and there's nothing you can do about it.' He's a troll in the clearest sense of the word.

RIFFRICHARDS 61 reads
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10 / 74

I was surprised that there wasn't a picture of Gus in the article :)

Gus_n_MollyPugs 2 Reviews 61 reads
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11 / 74

...The thread about "Duos" and male fantasy.....In it there were some pretty hostile and antisocial sentiments directed my way....THAT's what partially inspired this post/thread.   Apparently, according to some in that thread, I am on "ignore" by a number of people.....I'm guessing not enough though lol    

It's all very entertaining and interesting, which is really my point.   This website is awesone, and I clearly state above that REVIEWS are indeed part of the package.  But I don't choose a provider based on someone else's account of their particular experience.   I would hazard there are others who have the same sentiment.   But of course, many do incorporate the reviews, as Hobbyists.

This site serves as a type of directory for FINDING providers, and then seeing what they are all about by presenting a lot of info in a concise format.   The search function is pretty extensive too.....THAT's a valuable function....

420smoka.....I included YOU in my mind when I made the statement in the Original about the "grounded" guys who accepted me and how I conduct myself....I wasn't expecting you to be pissed.  

420Smoka4Eva 58 reads
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12 / 74
Valida 17 Reviews 117 reads
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13 / 74

Yes, there is a TER rule/policy that all reviews are fantasy.
Yet TER rejects a review if it claims to be fantasy -- they then require documentation that the encounter took place.  

(as of some years ago -- do they still do this bit of self-contradiction?)

RespectfulRobert 59 reads
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14 / 74

The fact that he is new could his explain his lack of sharing info. I didn't have any info to share when I first started.  
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Your second point has more validity. If he is really laughing at everyone, that will show itself in due time. But I would say give him a chance to adapt to this place.  
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This board isn't the easiest one to post in when you are new. His true self will be self-evident shortly.

holystonethedeck 91 Reviews 55 reads
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15 / 74

He's already clearly stated that he will never write a review. I doubt he'd share any other information either.

RespectfulRobert 67 reads
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16 / 74

Many new people are fearful of writing reviews. That's totally normal. Did you write them right away? I certainly did not. My views about writing them changed when I got more experience and more confidence.  
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You honestly know him well enough to know what he will do in the future? Who are you, NostraHolyStone? lol. Give the guy some time bro. smh

36363jensen 4 Reviews 61 reads
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18 / 74

No one knows what anything will do in the future. But it's clear that he is a troll here. Not even an amusing troll at that. Maybe he is just lonely and this is his reaction to his personal situation (assuming that what he said is true). While he is a minor annoyance, his posts seem to be boardering on unwelcome. I get that if he's paying for membership (not sure) maybe TER has an incentive to leave him be; not like anyone is going to stop paying or stop reviewing here just because the guy is posting here. But might be nice if TER just gave him a bit of a warning given most don't seem happy with his contributions.

eastside70 42 Reviews 55 reads
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19 / 74

Posted By: coeur-de-lion
I wonder if QB and other providers dress their vibrators up in little tuxedos to go out to dinner after they get an orgasm out of them?
Unless the vibrator is paying for their time, probably not.

WIMissScarlet See my TER Reviews 59 reads
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20 / 74

Can you give more of an explanation as to where you felt hostility on that thread? I actually posted on it and read some of the comments and did not see this, unless some were deleted.  
I mean, at this point this website is what it is. There used to be a lot more people that did reviews and there were a lot more discussions but I am sure as everyone has guessed at this point being reviewed is no longer a necessity that it once was to be successful as a provider. Many providers also took offence to the crass and degrading comments that they could read and said enough is enough. The review mentality for this industry was also wildly biased in the client's favor and providers also said enough is enough with the misogamy.  
I will though applaud TER for no longer allowing the very immature and unnecessary comments and discussions that were only meant to be mean and vindictive and were not helpful at all for the community and its members.

RIFFRICHARDS 66 reads
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21 / 74

I understand your point Robert, although I did immediately post reviews because I was familiar with the process after having been a member of a local SoCal review group before TER was founded. But when I joined that group I took my time before getting too involved with the message boards until after I had submitted a few reviews and established myself as a contributor to the group.  
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But you know what I didn’t do, and 99% of the guys here didn’t do? We didn’t come on like gangbusters with fantastical, imaginary stories on the boards when we were newbies. We took our time and tried to go with the flow. And when we did something that got a negative response from more established guys we didn’t respond like a jerk. We tried to learn how to fit in better.  
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Going forward I’m going to do my best not to react to his awkward stories and general drivel. And I’m going to hope that TER management accepts Jensen’s request steps in and warns him against continuing this course of action.

RespectfulRobert 59 reads
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22 / 74

There are many here now. I am not willing to place him in that category...yet. Like I said, his true colors will be revealed in due time. I just think he should be given some leeway since he is new. And you, and others, are free to ignore his posts in the meantime, like I do with several here.  
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But I really don't see the harm in his posts at all. His OPs get a lot of attention, with tons of responses, and makes this board less boring imho, but I am certainly willing to admit I could be wrong about him.

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 87 reads
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23 / 74

Because these policies are made for two different audiences.

The whole fantasy angle is to make it seem like it isn't real in terms of legal repercussions (I'm pretty rusty on my legalese here, but I don't think stating that something is a dream absolves you from culpability, so not even sure how effective that line of defense is)

 
Whereas to other mongers - people who use and pay for the site - it has to be a real account of a real date...people don't go here to read reviews to masturbate...at least I don't think most do.

RIFFRICHARDS 65 reads
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24 / 74

But I think Gus does!

badger48 125 Reviews 71 reads
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25 / 74

IMO, calling a review a fantasy means it's not true and didn't happen.
Some of the reviews I've read describing the girl were close, subjective?, and others right on.
Others describing the service were also on the money.
I was under the impression reviews are written and read to help a Monger decide to see the girl or not.
At least in the Kgirl world that is how they're used, at least by most, IMO.

 
Also, not talking about pounding for the hour and they loved it!
Made her cum multiple times and some of the other far fetched, to me, things!

RespectfulRobert 62 reads
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26 / 74

This seems like a major overreaction to a new poster. I don't see any rules he is breaking. Put him on ignore or just ignore him. If we censored speech for "awkward stories and general drivel" CDL would never be allowed to post. lol.

36363jensen 4 Reviews 65 reads
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27 / 74

Why do you think "gave him a warning" has to mean censorship? How about just a friendly PM saying, you're new maybe you should tone it down until everyone gets used to each other and you have a better understanding of the culture and norms here.

 
I am drawing a complete blank on the hadle but maybe someone else has a better memory. Who was the guy that was famous for outrageously idiotic posts but most people liked him? New people would sometimes show up and pick on him and then others that knew his posting and posting style would defend him.

 
Similarly, having or not having reviews really doesn't matter once someone proves they are not clueless and willing to be helpful and give good and accurate information to others.

RespectfulRobert 69 reads
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28 / 74

A warning certainly implies censorship will occur unless he changes. The pm you wish TER to send him, the way you worded it, would be a suggestion, not a warning. They are free to do so if they felt so inclined but I cant see why they would.  
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I still haven't heard of a single rule he is breaking. So some find him annoying. Who cares? Again, the remedy for that is simply don't read his posts or put him on ignore. Very simple to do. You, and very few others, are making Mount Everest out of a mole hill at this point.

impposter 49 Reviews 74 reads
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29 / 74

GaGambler?

Posted By: 36363jensen
Who was the guy that was famous for outrageously idiotic posts but most people liked him?
JUST KIDDING!! JUST KIDDING!! GaG was prolific and outrageous but not idiotic. I'm not sure if "most people liked him."

cks175 44 Reviews 71 reads
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30 / 74

Calling on TER to get involved? Really?!

But might be nice if TER just gave him a bit of a warning
There’s a simple solution. Just put him on ignore if he bothers you so much.

Or is this really just a salvo in some sort of “mean girl” popularity contest?
given most don't seem happy with his contributions.
A few posters griping about a newbie is “most”? This is starting to compare to movie scenes where the cool kids shun the new kid from sitting with anyone at the lunch table.  

We are grown men and women here. The overreaction is unnecessary.

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 63 reads
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31 / 74

I dont think Gus did anything out of line. This whole ecochamber thing is a bit ridiculous.

 
Just because people dont like something that another poster posts or how he does it doesn't mean you need to run to admin and try to get him (or her) silenced. Come on now. This is a fairly laissez faire board moderation wise too.

 
(And I know a thing or two about people not liking posts and how someone would say things. Even if it's on topic. Simply by being negative.  

 
I would be lying if I said I didn't find myself skipping over his posts sometimes, but it's really not a big deal.

inicky46 61 Reviews 60 reads
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it's always been obvious many people don't. And it's certainly not a requirement of TER in order to post here. I think the guy is a genial type and we need more people posting here, not less.

36363jensen 4 Reviews 66 reads
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Not GaG. He was one that never wrote a review but I think most people would agree that he was generally one solid gound with his comments -- I suppose the jury is out on who did or did not like him.  

 
I think the shortend name of the guy I was thinking of was Tini -- Martini maybe?

inicky46 61 Reviews 61 reads
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34 / 74

that for a lot of his time on TER he was a volunteer mod and was forbidden from writing reviews. Though in all honesty he probably wouldn't have done so anyway. Most of the mods in those days were unpaid volunteers who got free VIP.

36363jensen 4 Reviews 68 reads
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35 / 74

I've not seen anyone saying positive things about his posts but do see complaints about his posts., particularly in terms of his defensive and argumentative responses to the criticisms. Given not many people are even posting  here, "a few" can be most, but my use of most referred to post complaining compared to posts supporting or suggesting neutrality.

 
Yes I do ignore his posts generally. I'm talking about the results of his post, which I think are intentional on his part - which is trolling or trollish at the very least and that is not in keeping with TERs stated discussion policies. No one here has been going out of their way to attack Gus, it is always a case of people responding to either his responses to answers to his quations or other responses in threads.

 
No, I don't think asking someone that seems to be generating conflict by the way they engage in discussion to consider changing their style a bit, at least until everyone gets to know the person, is "cool kids" bulling the new kid at the table or some knee-jerk overreaction. After all, it's not like these response came up on his first post but after he's been on the board for several months and had established something of a track record.

 
It's not like anyone is saying he has to be a different person or cannot ever bring up his unique perspectives on things. It's not really about content (for me at least, I have some confidence the content is offered for genuine discussion rather than just trollish personal entertainment) but how it's presented.

impposter 49 Reviews 78 reads
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RespectfulRobert 64 reads
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37 / 74

Ten times now. You don't like the way Gus posts. WE ALL GOT THE MEMO! Here is a unique take:
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IGNORE HIM. Can we move on with our lives now???

Gus_n_MollyPugs 2 Reviews 77 reads
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38 / 74

.Jensen....You simply won't listen to Robert, you just keep going on and on about what an awful TER community member I am....your posts, especially the one immediately above this, are absurd attempts to hammer a perception into reality about ME....you have no clue at all what the hell you are talking about.   Several others here as well who claim I "SPAM" and Troll....you need to brush up on your definition of SPAM, and trolling is largely subjective, like many other aspects of these forums.

Let's say TER ....."warns" ....me;  there's nothing to warn me about, but let's say they cave in to your whining and tell me to "cool it"......then what?   Obviously I'm not going to cool it because I don't cave in to bullying or to absurd one-sided illogical arguments.    SO what do you do then Jensen?   Start a petition....?   Organize a mob like in Young Frankenstein and go after "The Monster?"    

There are so many threads and posts on this website I myself do not read...I don't ignore them, I just don't get around to reading them because it's not possble, there are TOO MANY!.  How is it that you've managed to form such a STRONG opinion of my posts and writing?  You must have read every single one of my threads and posts since I got here not 2 months ago, in order for you to have such a massively negative opinion, and to make such sweeping generalities of me and what I write.    

FWIW   I have received compliments on some of my posts and my writing, so you're wrong about that....will you deny the eclectic group of people (including perhaps a few providers) who enjoy what I write, just so you don't have to go to the trouble to IGNORE ME?!?  

Other than what you've gone out of your way to say about ME jensen (along with a few others who have gone after me....who's that guy, Regency Hobbyist..... who needlessly attacked me in the DUOS/Fantasyy thread, which prompted me in turn to write THIS thread we're now in...?  I'm not just addressing Jensen, I'm addressing HIM too....and others)

To respectful Robert:  I can't send you this in a PM because you don't have one, but I greatly appreciate your fair and "respectful" treatment of me here and elsewhere.....I don't expect anyone to endorse me, but you've been logical and fair in what you've said regarding how people should approach my posts if they dislike what I say.    You also said "my true colors" will eventually show.....They already have.  I've enjoyed this experience of TER and most of the people...I will not write reviews, I've said that ad nauseum,  and pretty much don't read reviews.  Everything else about this site I enjoy.

But I will probably not stick around....NOT because anyone wants me to leave, but because I don't feel like paying the monthly VIP fee indefinitely just to do what I've been doing.    So ultimately, Jensen, and regency and a few others will get their wish and I will cease posting on this website.   I'm sure it will be so much better and more interesting for all after I leave....

...but I may choose to check back in for a month here and there just to say hello and to stay relevant and up to date on the latest info on providers .    ANd for the record, I have seen 3 providers so far....the first was a type of disaster as you all know....but the other two were really nice and kind and awesome and I will be seeing them both again.... I will also be seeing at least 1 more wonderful woman in las vegas in September (she truly seems like a gem in my getting to know each other discourse with her so far...something others referred to as "time wasting" and something providers don't do....)    

Someone in the DUOS thread says I only see Blow-Up dolls.    While it's true I have a "harem" of three blow up dolls at home (including the Jenna Jameson one) all sitting in my spare wheelchairs waiting for me to show them some love, I do in fact see live women as well.....BUT THOSE ARE MY MEMORIES!!!  hahahaha     Take care Robert.....and everyone else.

-- Modified on 7/27/2024 6:53:34 PM

AllTheTimeBaby 71 reads
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39 / 74

D00dz,

This guy is obviously starved for attention and you are providing it!

Ignore him and he will go away.

ATTB

RIFFRICHARDS 60 reads
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40 / 74

100% correct. I’m finished reading or responding to his bullshit. Hopefully he carries out his promise to drop out soon.

helixir 42 Reviews 66 reads
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41 / 74

I'll have you know every provider I see has multiple climaxes in my presence.  Just yesterday a lady had a series of Os starting with me walking in the door and culminating in a multi-orgasmic spasm when I took off my shirt and she got a look at my uni-ab. I never even got to fuck her, the poor thing was so worn out.

AllTheTimeBaby 57 reads
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42 / 74

The one I hate:

"I am extra large, so she told me to go slow at first."

Guys like this usually have written 1 or 2 reviews.

ATTB

Gus_n_MollyPugs 2 Reviews 60 reads
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43 / 74

Well Gee Mr RIFF, you must be one of the most miserable pricks I've never met....if you are, IN FACT, done reading & responding to my "bullshit", then it really doesn't matter TO YOU whether I stay or go, does it?    DOES IT??!!?

I'm afraid cooler heads prevailed....I was advised by some far more reasonable (and just plain decent) PEOPLE that I should not allow "bullies" to dictate my course of action, and they also pointed out that I was mistaken in my understanding of how TER works....I don't NEED to pay for VIP in order to Post on the Boards.....how 'bout that!?!?

Why don't you just go your way and I'll go mine, hmm?  I really have zero quarrel with you, other than the fact you've adopted the same tact and stance that a few (a FEW.....) others have adopted here, which is unreasonable intolerance and intransigence vis-a-vis.....ME and my existence here.    In the meantime, allow me to refer you to a classic song by the "Only Band That Ever Mattered...."  

 

Whoa
(Ah, parlar)
Darling, you got to let me know
Should I stay or should I go?
If you say that you are mine
I'll be here 'til the end of time
So you got to let me know
Should I stay or should I go?
It's always tease, tease, tease
You're happy when I'm on my knees
One day is fine and next is black
So if you want me off your back
Well, come on and let me know
Should I stay or should I go?
Should I stay or should I go now?
Should I stay or should I go now?
If I go there will be trouble
And if I stay it will be double
So come on and let me know
This indecision's bugging me (indecisión me molesta)
If you don't want me, set me free (si no me quieres, líbrame)
Exactly whom am I supposed to be? (¿Dime que tengo que ser?)
Don't you know which clothes even fit me? (¿Sabes qué ropan me quedan?)
Come on and let me know (me lo tienes que decir)
Should I cool it or should I blow? (¿Me debo ir o quedarme?)
Ahh
Split
(Doble!)
(Yo me enfrío o lo sufro)
(Es verdad)
Should I stay or should I go now? (¿Yo me enfrio o lo soplo?)
Should I stay or should I go now? (¿Yo me enfrio o lo soplo?)
If I go there will be trouble (si me voy, va a haber peligro)
And if I stay it will be double (si me quedo, es doble)
So you gotta let me know (pero que tienes que decir)
Should I cool it or should I blow? (¿Me frío o lo soplo?)
Should I stay or should I go now? (¿Me frío o lo soplo?)
If I go there will be trouble (si me voy, va a haber peligro)
And if I stay it will be double (si me quedo, es doble)
So you gotta let me know (pero que tienes que decir)
Should I stay or should I go?

Gus_n_MollyPugs 2 Reviews 66 reads
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44 / 74

Now this is a funny post, the self-deprecating kind I will aspire to in future postings, and I hope others do as well.....

GeorgeSpelviniii 226 Reviews 67 reads
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45 / 74

Interesting..... You want people to conform to a certain type of writing, yet when you are criticized about the way you write you are ____________ (insert your adjective here)

Posted By: Gus_n_MollyPugs
Re: I resemble that remark
Now this is a funny post, the self-deprecating kind I will aspire to in future postings, and I hope others do as well.....

Gus_n_MollyPugs 2 Reviews 65 reads
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46 / 74

...that I get pissed about...it's the attempts to shut me up and make me go away....or, the attempts  to make me accept or conform to the "Hobbyist" mentality and culture that is a part of TER and write and endorse reviews....note I said "a part of TER....not the whole shebang though...."

I realize my writing is an acquired taste, and many people don't acquire it.   It comes from being able to write fast and voluminously, plus the fact I spend much time on computers in general and it's easy to toggle between screens while engaging other pursuits.  

holystonethedeck 91 Reviews 58 reads
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47 / 74

My only issue with you is your often uncessarily long posts. And here you insist on quoting lyrics in English and Spanish for no apparent reason - total waste of bandwidth.

inicky46 61 Reviews 57 reads
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48 / 74

Find the video on YouTube
Click and highlight the URL in the browser bar at the top of the page
Click on "Copy" in the drop-down menu
Go to "Reply" on TER for the post where you want to reply.
Click in "Picture URL" at the bottom of the form
Click on "Paste" in the drop-down menu
Hit the "Post Message" button at the bottom and You're done.
Once you do it a few times it's very simple.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 55 reads
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49 / 74

Everyone should be allowed to post whatever they want, NO MATTER HOW FALSE OR STUPID IT IS.  The problems is that most guys who post false and/or stupid shit are not mature enough to take the blowback that comes with taking that path.   When they get constantly called out and no one agrees with them on much of anything, they eventually leave on their own rather than be the board pinata, as you have become.  Most of these shits (ships) passing through here in the night are newbies, like you, and their only experience in P4P is what they have seen in movies, which is both filtered and romanticized.  You are so insecure you want the membership to tell you to keep posting, but I can't bring myself to do it.  Respectful Robert is Mr. Nice Guy, so he may want you to stay.  I have no opinion because it's not my choice, it's yours.  

 
There are two kinds of posters here, those that are retired, like you, but have loads of experience, NOT like you, and guys, like me, that still work to varying degrees, so your LONG posts often go unread because neither of these groups wants to spend their hobby time reading drivel from a guy who has only questions and no answers due to lack of personal experience.  The board in general is pretty tolerant of Newbie questions, but you are a Newbie on steroids, and have taken it an annoying level.  Nevertheless, you are entitled to your own idiotic opinions.

RIFFRICHARDS 50 reads
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50 / 74

Thanks cdl for making the point better than I have. I guess at its lowest common denominator:
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It's okay to be YOUNG (in hobby years/experience) and INEXPERIENCED (weren't we all when we started on this adventure).
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But it's a whole 'nother kettle of fish when someone is YOUNG and INEXPERIENCED coupled with unmerited BRAVADO, HUBRIS and ATTITUDE and unmatched VERBOSITY. I think that's what so many of us experienced guys find problematic with Gus' bullshit.
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Nota Bene: Dammit GaG, where are you when we need you?

Gus_n_MollyPugs 2 Reviews 58 reads
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The lyrics to this actual song from the Clash are ARE in English and spanish....it's the actual song.   Bandwidth?   Ok, I don't recall that ever being a consideration on what someone posts...

There is an apparent reason....there is a handful of you guys who want me to leave, there's a handful of people who think I should do what I want so long as it is not simply to cave in to your collective hostility, which is completely unhinged and totally unwarranted.   You twist this perception around to make it look like I am intentionally trying to harass or piss YOU guys off specifically and somehow "ruin" your experience and time here.  

Gus_n_MollyPugs 2 Reviews 66 reads
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Thanks Inicky, when I actually want to post a video I will follow your directions....in this case though, it was the actual lyrics that I simply wanted to use to make my point about debating whether I should stay or go...once again, NO one HAD to read it but they did.

I've actually posted a lot of legitimate/normal threads and topics, but these guys are trying to obscure that and construct a perception to win this latest flame war.    

Truly.....TER admin would have axed me (or at least formally warned me) if I had violated ANY of their terms and agreements, PAID VIP or NOT.   No one seems able to accept that, and continues to ignore that inconvenient fact.

I am 100% willing to just live and let live, I have no desire to attack or influence any of these guys harping and harassing me and my presence here.    Can someone explain away THAT inconvenient fact?

Gus_n_MollyPugs 2 Reviews 55 reads
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53 / 74

"But it's a whole 'nother kettle of fish when someone is YOUNG and INEXPERIENCED coupled with unmerited BRAVADO, HUBRIS and ATTITUDE and unmatched VERBOSITY. I think that's what so many of us experienced guys find problematic with Gus' bullshit."

 
You obviously are NOT a free speech guy....read your words and demonstrate how that supports FREE SPEECH on a wode open forum such as TER.     ALL you did was express your own individual, unique....OPINION, regarding me and my bullshit.

You want to call what you do here and elsewhere with women you pay an "Adventure", you're absolutely entitled to do that...I call touring the Rhine River in Germany in my wheelchair an Adventure, or visiting the Berlin wall in 1988 a year before it fell an "Adventure"....we come back to the same point.....why can't you just leave me and my opinions and posting ALONE, and I do the same (which I DO by the way...the only reason I'm even talking to you is your continued unwarranted unreasonable attacks.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 61 reads
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54 / 74

the Rhine River in a boat instead.  You won't get wet.  Lol

 
Maybe you missed this in my post above . . . . . . "The problems is that most guys who post false and/or stupid shit are not mature enough to take the blowback that comes with taking that path."  

 
I warned you for your own good, and here you are, proving I'm a veritable genius.  Lol

Gus_n_MollyPugs 2 Reviews 66 reads
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55 / 74

"I warned you for your own good, and here you are, proving I'm a veritable genius.  Lol"

 
Ah ....NO....I don't see it that way at all, in fact I have no idea what you are even talking about in the context of any of this thread, or me?

What warning?  wth are you even talking about here?

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 62 reads
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56 / 74

It's pretty clear.  If you don't UNDERSTAND what I wrote, it's okay to say so.  That would explain a lot.

420Smoka4Eva 66 reads
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57 / 74

Gus you're allowed to say whatever you want but you have to realize people will respond to it, and not always in a positive way. We have to be realistic about the impact of your behavior. Posting conversations bumps the thread to the top of the page. If you post a lot, you tend to drown out other posters, bump old/irrelevant conversations and bury topics you aren't interested in. Also, writing verbose posts that are multiple paragraphs long make using the site harder, especially when people keep replying to each other. The formatting gets all messed up and there is a lot more scrolling involved. We hear your opinion on everything. So you can claim freedom of speech but your exercise of it impacting others and you don't care. You also complain about people not letting a conversation die, but here you are keeping it alive.  

 
TL/DR, freedom of speech doesn't mean you aren't being annoying lol.

Gus_n_MollyPugs 2 Reviews 63 reads
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58 / 74

It's not easy being YOU, is it CDL?    

36363jensen 4 Reviews 66 reads
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59 / 74

that I'm aware of at least.

 
From the General FAQ:
Are the reviews real?
Yes, the reviews are absolutely real! We prefer to ‘err on the side of not publishing one if we suspect it’s a fake. We also remove questionable reviews.

 
They do some legalistic handwaving with, in the Review FAQ:
Legal disclaimer
Prostitution or exchanging any kind of sexual service for money is illegal. (You can give it away for free, but you can't sell it.) Therefore, everything contained in this site is a work of fiction that is published for entertainment and amusement purposes only. The reviews are stories that have been submitted by users of The Erotic Review.

 
So what is the "fiction" supposed to be? Seems like the fiction is supposed to be that we're engaging in acts of solicitation and prostitution, not that the actions actually took place (other than the payment *for sex*).

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 66 reads
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that I don't get to see as many providers as I WANT to, due to the fact that I'm still working and only semi-retired.  In all other respects, it's pretty damn good being me.  Since you didn't know any of this because you have only been here ten minutes, comparatively speaking, is this your imagination talking again, or just speculation based on who you THINK I am?  Whichever, it kind of makes you a troll, don't you think?  

36363jensen 4 Reviews 53 reads
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It is interesting that some here see observations that someone's posts are clearly a bit disruptive and objectionable to a lot of other people but saying that, in the hope that the poster might modify their interations and approach to posting, is somehow an attempt to make them shutup.

 
And then some will turn around and those who are complaining about the postings that they should be shutting up -- rather than just following their own advice and ignoring the posts/poster.

 
Well, humans have never been fully self-consistent so not much to do there.lol

FlaNoName 62 reads
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62 / 74

Some people just don't see the irony.  lol

Posted By: 36363jensen
Re: I'm a free speech guy, . . . . .
It is interesting that some here see observations that someone's posts are clearly a bit disruptive and objectionable to a lot of other people but saying that, in the hope that the poster might modify their interations and approach to posting, is somehow an attempt to make them shutup.  
   
   
 And then some will turn around and those who are complaining about the postings that they should be shutting up -- rather than just following their own advice and ignoring the posts/poster.  
   
   
 Well, humans have never been fully self-consistent so not much to do there.lol

RIFFRICHARDS 49 reads
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63 / 74

⬆️ You speak the truth, Jensen.

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 71 reads
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64 / 74

Person A says "I don't like how/what he posts here, let's have admin give him a warning"  

And

Person B telling person A, "I think it's a stupid idea that infringes on free speech given that the poster has done nothing wrong even tho he may be annoying to others"

One person is attempting to shut a person up and another simply express their opinion of the situation.  

These are NOT the same.  

 
Invoking admin - someone who has authority and power to actually silence and rem0ve posts, is pretty different than stating an opinion with no appeal to authority.  

 
Don't be the one with the lame "complain about complainers" rhetoric.

 
If someone actually said hey let's have a mod give Jensen a warning for his posts, then you'd have a point.

36363jensen 4 Reviews 68 reads
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65 / 74

Except my appeal to authority was the appeal to have a neutral party, and an authorty make whatever call they will. Yes, I do think the discussion should proceed differently and the OP is intentionally bringing a lot of this on himself which is avoidable. Hence the value of input from a neutral party.

 
For me though,  the message was not I don't like what you're saying  but effectively stop saying anything on this any more.

 
If one is unacceptable the other certainly should be -- particularly when the other is also claiming the appropriate approch to such situations is just to ignore them.

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 68 reads
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66 / 74

You're saying the same thing but using different words.

 
The only people with authority here who can speak for others are the admins/mods. And you called on them to make a judgment on a poster.  

People who said it's a stupid idea (including myself) didnt make an explicit call to authority like you have about your words.  

These are pretty different and if you can't see the difference, I'm sorry. Next time you see a north Korean lady ask her what's the difference between her neighbor telling on her family to authorities in nk, and not invoking authorities. Maybe she will enlighten you.  

"For me though,  the message was not I don't like what you're saying  but effectively stop saying anything on this any more."  

What the hell is the difference? You are trying to shut him up. "stop saying anything on this" means anything else to you? Did I also misunderstand it? Lol.  

 
Who are you to tell anyone to stop saying something, especially if that something is legal? Are you a mod?  

For someone who called me a judge jury and executioner once, you sure are quick to call people trolls and want a trial of their character. Even as harmless posters as Gus who just want a good convo. Could you and riff be less, I dunno, "lord of the flies"?

-- Modified on 7/31/2024 8:35:42 PM

RegencyHobbyist 109 Reviews 66 reads
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67 / 74

Rocket, I disagree. If you think someone is behaving unacceptably you ask an authority figure or a judge to evaluate their behavior. If it’s a lawyer you report them to the State Bar. A doctor, either the State Medical Board or the AMA. A mechanic, the State Consumer Affairs Department. Well, this is a fuck board. And the authority figure is the Board Administrator. So if a member believes someone is out of line the Admin is the appropriate person to reach out to for assistance. And we’ve both seen TER members, both hobbyist and provider alike, either removed or suspended by Admin. In just the last year that guy from NJ who was aggressively spamming the boards and arguing with everyone disappeared overnight after complaints from members. So I don’t see why it’s inappropriate for Jensen, myself, or anyone else to ask Admin to have a look at someone’s behavior and maybe ask them to tone it down.  
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One last thing: Gus or someone brought up the issue of free speech. Speech is always free, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t have consequences. Gus and others are free to write what they want. The consequences are that others can respond negatively or positively, and if things get out of hand Admin can get involved.

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 63 reads
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68 / 74

I agree with you about who the authority is here. No arguments from me there.

 
And I also think people have a right to report a member.
However, reporting a member (and speaking for others) is a bit different than me telling a member that imo it's a bad idea to report another poster.  

 
Jensen attempted to say these are equal. No they aren't. I am not going to report Jensen for this idea. I'm not gonna be a Karen and run to authorities. And I'm not gonna attempt to silence him, ever.  

 
And it's not like Jensen doesn't get the difference between appeal to authority vs direct criticism (keeping it in house so to speak). He knows the difference well. Otherwise he wouldn't advocate for keeping bad sessions with agencies to in-house feedback, as opposed to making public reviews.

 
Correct, free speech means.. And This is something many foreigners get wrong...you won't be arrested for expressing your opinion.

36363jensen 4 Reviews 56 reads
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69 / 74

You really like your straw men don't you rocket.

 
I never tried to equat suggesting it would be nice if the admins stepped in (which actually is different than reporting someone or suggesting they be reported)  and someone saying reporting that is a bad idea just because you don't like what is being said or how it's being said. (Let's also consider I never said this was about what Gus was saying but what the reactions are. Others have taken exception to what and how he says things).

 
But I see this a no different than you claim that somehow people should never saying things publicly and only provide negative/critical feedback privately. What I did say was that providing that type of direct feedback is often more productive and your campaign of publicizing every perceived error or thing someone gets disappointed about.

 
But sure, keep misrepresenting what I say as it will more easily fit into your binary view of the world.

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 52 reads
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70 / 74

You claimed irony because people complaining about you shutting gus up were doing the same to you. And I said no it's not the same.

 
Lol at asking someone to step in not being the same as reporting to authority. This is why I despise euphemisms. They obfuscate the meaning. These in context of ter are the same thing. It's not a neutral party, its the party of authority. A neutral party would be a random monger from another site. Not the mod/admin.  

 
Youre not asking some bystander to "step in". What youre doing is calling the cops and saying "well see what the cops say". Very very different.  

 
Yes, keep accusing me of misrepresenting everything when it's convenient to your argument.

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 61 reads
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71 / 74

"I never said this was about what Gus was saying but what the reactions are. Others have taken exception to what and how he says things)"

 
This is the same person who earlier in the thread has said, I quote:

"But it's clear that he is a troll here. Not even an amusing troll at that. "

Jensen bro do you ever take accountability for your own words?

You never said this was about what Gus was saying? You literally called him a troll. YOU yourself named him a troll. And not just that you think that, but according to you it's CLEAR.  

 
And then you say that it's others who have taken exception and not you? So why did you call him clearly a troll then?  

 
If you call him a troll, you obviously take exception to what he's saying. Saying otherwise is just intellectually dishonest.

cks175 44 Reviews 65 reads
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72 / 74

Can continue another long winded argument with Rocket  in a separate thread? Because no matter how you try to justify it, you called for Gus to be reported because you disagreed with what and how he said things.

36363jensen 4 Reviews 73 reads
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73 / 74

Do you really think that post was supposed to mean anything to rocket? It was just a simply corrective note to others.

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 75 reads
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74 / 74

Way to actually address cks point. Lol

 
Jensen you're a good guy. But by golly you should fucking learn how to stand up and answer for your own words.

You're like in your sixties and have no accountability for what you say. Come on now bro.

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