Yup sounds about right .
Over time I have met two providers whom I really like and would have liked to see them exclusively. Even though I have done well for myself financially time constraints due to work and family commitments have prevented me from pulling the trigger on this. I would like to hear from both clients and providers regrading how often this happens and what your experiences were like.
What percent of clients are able to indulge in this? Just curious.
How often does this happen?
How long was the arrangement?
What convinced you to pursue this arrangement?
What ended the arrangement?
Feel free to PM me if you like to discuss details.
Redfox7
Probably a better question would be whether YOUR two (2) hookers would want to give up their income source and be with YOU exclusively. Maybe a more complicated question or just pay the yearly rate.
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Are you looking for the providers to be exclusive to you? I would presume that would require discussion of how much they usually make per year and confidence you will compensate at that rate. Also the providers have the risk of losing current regulars and "starting over" to build their client base back, when the exclusive arrangement ends.
If the exclusivity is just in your end, I would presume you could discuss a schedule and compensation with your favorites. I would see this more as sugar relationship.
Great topic, I'm considering going down a similar path.
I've seen a few high end providers advertise exclusive arrangements but I have never booked one. It is a bit out of my price range and if I want to pay for a girlfriend there are cheaper options. I just don't understand how it is supposed to work. How many days or nights of the week are you getting together? Is she moving in or staying at her place? Does she take her ads down or keep advertising? How do you know she is actually being exclusive? It just seems too good to be true.
Low five figures is standard for a semi-exclusive arrangement and decisiveness is a prerequisite. A multi-month (2 or 3 plus) commitment is also a reasonable expectation.
When corresponding with the companion you have in mind, provide as much clarity as you can about what you are seeking from the arrangement. As an example, if flexibility with arranging dates is a top priority for you, communicate your needs so they can be understood from the outset.
I saw one provider exclusively for over a year. (she was seeing other clients too) I would advise against this unless you are considering a sugar daddy arrangement. The lady and I really got along well, we took several trips together, and when we stayed in town she really felt like a true girlfriend. We spoke and texted daily, maybe several times.
But here is the rub, you will probably get attached to the girl much more than she gets attached to you. Remember this is her job. After a while the novelty of the sex (I'm presuming you really enjoy it) will wear thin. It's no difference than with a civilian girlfriend. In the end, we had a couple of expensive dates that for no-one's reason weren't the best. (Stomach flu, headache) on both our parts. She had some other issues that came up and it just went south. I didn't feel I was getting good value for the $ spent so I pulled the pin. Missed her for a bit, but, in the end it just didn't seem like i was getting good value.
Yea it seems like all these "exclusive" arrangements end up becoming a situation where you are exclusively spending your money on one escort while she continues to see other clients. I don't think you need a special arrangement for that. You can just book your favorite provider on a regular basis. I don't understand the need to pay a lot more money to get basically the same thing. I also like how you mentioned the attachment and novelty wearing off. Guys that start seeing one provider tend to get attached and heartbroken. I also get the feeling guys have unrealistic expectations for this kind of arrangement. You would have to have a really good connection with someone in order to keep the momentum going once the novelty of sex wears off. At that point, based on all the work required I think sugaring or regular dating would be better if this is the kind of relationship you want.
There is a blurry but discernible line between escorting (Providing) and sugaring. You should scan some recent posts on The Erotic Highway Board (which is the unofficial sugaring board). Since you sound like a newbie to the idea, read a bunch of posts to get a general understanding and THEN ask your questions there.
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Briefly (hence not totally accurately), some escorts are also SBs on the side. Some SBs absolutely distinguish between sugaring and escorting (Providing). Even SBs are not always exclusive and SBs can have simultaneous SD arrangements. SB relationships vary in frequency (once per week or month to much more often than that) and duration: 1 or 2 meetings to a couple of years or more.
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Often, real life gets in the way of long term "business" arrangements: moving (for school, job, family); financial circumstances change; health issues (self or family); OTHER relationships; ...
Over time I have met two providers whom I really like and would have liked to see them exclusively. Even though I have done well for myself financially time constraints due to work and family commitments have prevented me from pulling the trigger on this. I would like to hear from both clients and providers regrading how often this happens and what your experiences were like.
What percent of clients are able to indulge in this? Just curious.
How often does this happen?
How long was the arrangement?
What convinced you to pursue this arrangement?
What ended the arrangement?
Feel free to PM me if you like to discuss details.
Redfox7
People delude themselves about this shit. Any sex that relies on a direct financial component is just a john and a hooker. It's disturbing to see how many mongers think they've found some special girl that's not a pro, yet directly pays for pussy.
A sugar baby is just a hooker with a cuter title. You may think it is "different" because you are paying her rent and cell phone directly rather than in the white envelope but.....surprise!!! She is still a pro ho.
And a “Sugar Daddy” is still a “ John”
P4P!!!
Go on reddit and read the sugarbaby section. Absolutely hilarious the arguments ladies make saying they aren't hookers.
On a side note I know a SB that was groomed to be a "high end" escort. The guy that groomed her sees her once a week (she says he pays her her normal rate of 1500/date). I informed her that he's her pimp and she's a hooker. She corrected me to say he pays her for every date and she's a high end escort. What makes her hi end us that she can be very selective who she let's fuck her. So. A hooker.
Why did the guy groom her, just to pay her rate and not get a piece of the action? I have heard of plenty of stories where a guy groomed a lady. But these typically are guys who are their pimps. They don't pay and they get a piece of the action. But what you're describing sounds like a guy who went from having her all to himself to her being available for hire from anybody, and he gets no added benefit.
I just met with a client yesterday who told me about his "sugar baby" experience. He said that he was paying a gal's car payment for years and they would get together a few times a month. Gradually it became once a month and then a few months he never saw her as she was "busy", but he was still making the car payment. He questioned her about this and said that he was going to stop making her car payments and she screamed "I AM YOUR GIRLFRIEND, NOT A HOOKER!!"
He stopped making her car payment and now sees me 2-3 X a month. He said that I am cheaper and more reliable and there is no drama. LOL
I've done the SB route, but eventually drama starts to overtake the benefits of having a fairly steady hottie to go fuck on a regular basis. After the last one moved away, I just found a couple of UTR types (by UTR I mean they don't advertise that I know of) and I stick to them. They know everything I like and I have a great time. No blowing up my phone between visits with whatever emergence has befallen them either.
Go on reddit and read the sugarbaby section. Absolutely hilarious the arguments ladies make saying they aren't hookers.
I have a Provider friend who also does the Sugar Daddy Sugar Baby thing. She had a benefactor that paid her a generous monthly allowance. When he found out that she was still on TER and seeing other men he gave her an ultimatum. So she delisted but basically continued business as normal and saw other men. She remained on P411 & I sent her a lot of referrals! 
There are some providers that advertise exclusive packages on their sites. They even have ones where they agree not to see other clients. The prices are absolutely insane. But if you're that rich and it's something you really want, who am I too judge? That said, it seems a sugar daddy arrangement can get you the same outcome and not cost nearly as much. With these exclusive deals, you're basically paying a ton just to be with her, and then she wants some of the sugar daddy stuff on top of it. When you're with her, you're paying for meals, travel costs, clothes, gifts, etc...
I have had several arrangements in my lifetime, but none are worth retiring. Exclusive means only you in my personal opinion unless you can afford support my entire household it’s never mutually beneficial.
Semi exclusive is more reasonable if you know your can only afford to supplement her income. The question is can you afford to keep her a well kept woman?
A few years ago, this young lady was contemplating being "exclusive" with one of her clients. She told me she needed a min of 20K a month, at that time, 2018. Now, it's probably 25-30K.
Here's what happened next
She became exclusive to this client but... to a degree till I came to town.,,,lol. It was me being me
How long did it last? It didn't last long, I'd say a little over a couple of years. Maybe longer. The guy then decided to let her work the hustle but I don't think he was totally cool with it
What ended it? Many factors..
You had to know the girl. She liked money but most she like the attention given to her. She loved to be out on the town, wined and dined,to get all dressed up and she just loved to have the eyes on her.
The guy was conservative in nature, he thought he can tame her and then he finally figured that this deal wasn't what it was all cracked up to be.
I had a girl tell me that a few of her girlfriends in the business will tell clients they are exclusive and still see others. Pretty easy to pull off. But these girls will tell you all kinds of things so who knows.
when she is with you and you are not doing MFM with her involved.
Very true. And the biggest issue with an exclusive, from a client's perspective, is that you almost have to be stalker to make sure the provider is remaining exclusive. Not something most folks are eager to do. Just curious - what would your expectations be for an exclusive arrangement - how many times per month assuming 25K per month or even 10K per month?
That she would enter an exclusive arrangement with someone for a fee of $30,000 per month.
Her website no longer lists this as available. I guess there were no takers.
... in a position to pull that off, financially or emotionally, I have seen handful of mongers turn hookers into gfs. Then they are exclusive.
For me.. The whole purpose of seeing hookers is the flexibility it allows me to sleep with whomever I want.. I have no interest in falling in love with one..
If you want exclusivity, I suggest you go SB route.. I play in the SB world too BTW.. SB-SD world lends itself to exclusivity more easily than the hooker-John world. You will have to invest lot of time in SB-SD world to find the right gal for you. It can be a more satisfying sex but also more draining. If time is an issue for you, it might not work.
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as real-life GF's over the years. It's not for everyone because you have to be okay with her continuing to work. To level the playing field, I always get an agreement that transactional sex is not considered cheating on our relationship. IOW, she sees other men and gets paid, and I can see other providers as long as I'm paying. I've had relationships like this last as long as 3 years. They usually end when she finds out I have seen other providers she knows, and she then decides she wants ME to be exclusive with her while she continues to work. That's not reciprocity.
This is something that has vexed me and perplexed me for ages. How do providers expect to date or have healthy romantic relationships while still working? It really only makes sense if the relationship is open/ENM/poly. However, it seems most providers want a one-sided monogamous relationship. I see this shit on social media all the time. They say the sex they have with clients is "different" because they do it for money and not for pleasure. I say regardless of the reason, sex is sex. I once had a "theoretical" discussion with a provider about dating. At first she said she wouldn't want her boyfriend to be fucking other people. When I pointed out the hypocrisy she switched up a bit, said she would be fine with fucking but no kissing. I asked if she was going to continue kissing her clients as well. This is why I shut shit down with providers as soon as boundaries start getting too blurred. This is better as fantasy than reality.
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On a slightly related note, there are a lot of escorts who think that dating an escort is perfectly fine and healthy but that dating a John is gross and disgusting.
but one thing that can bring some clarity is to focus not on whether one or the other is having this or that kind of sex with others, but the integrity of the relationship.
To that end, each must consider the pros and cons, then discuss their needs with the other and continue to share their feelings to see if such a relationship can exist.
There is certainly no "one size fits all" in the world of relationships, and that goes doubly for those who choose this hobby lifestyle.
But my long standing relationship (20 years), which includes marriage now, proves that it can and does work, the normal ups and downs notwithstanding.
Are you dating/married to a provider? Or are you just talking about relationships in general.
I say this with confidence because I was there and have also had them as guests in my home.
Too often these boards and others try to prescribe very specific dos and don'ts to intersocial behavior specifics like "Never date an escort/client", among others.
All I'm trying to say is that we can not generalize like that because there are too many variables to take into account. If I had followed that rule, I would have been cut off from being with a the best person I ever had a relationship with.
As with so many things in life, it's not the what but the how that really matters.
If before you took the dive, you decided to come here and seak advice, and actually listed to it, you may be in a very different place. As we saw in a recent thread, you would get a lot more reasons not to do it than you would to do it. And, those reasons might apply most of the time. But you're a perfect example of why they do not apply all of the time. In the end, you have to listen to yourself more than others because only you can have a sense of what you believe is really going on. And, while we all sometimes get it wrong, we also sometimes get it right.
As the saying goes, the only chances I regret in life are the ones I don't take.
is a slippery slope for sure. I once had a booker warn me that the girls are not the same on the outside as they are when they are working. I soon found that to be true. Some providers have admitted to me that they see themselves as professional actresses and everything that happens at the incall is staged for the benefit of the customer. When they go home, they can relax and be themselves, which is usually slower paced when compared to how they act when it's "showtime" at the incall and they are trying to cram all 14 sexual positions into a one-hour session. When it's real as opposed to scripted, intimacy is much deeper, and of course, there is no clock anywhere in the room. When used to a steady stream of paid providers, it's somewhat liberating to have one ride you until you are both exhausted, you climax at the same time, she collapses on you and then rolls off with her head remaining on your shoulder, and you both sleep for 1-2 hours without any worries about getting out of there. When you wake up, everything that was completely soaked has dried out. Lol
Most of these efforts blow up before you find a level where you are both comfortable with the realness of this kind of relationship, but if you do make it, the rewards are mostly worth it. At some point, shortly after you start dating on the outside, you will hear the magic words, "You're my boyfriend now, so you don't have to pay anymore." Absent this phrase, you have most likely just moved from P4P into an SB arrangement. You are still a customer. Your last sentence of your post could not be truer. Unless they develop real feelings towards you, you will never feel the same as you do when a civvie woman is crazy about you,
"You're my boyfriend so you don't have to pay anymore."
It's more like: "You're my boyfriend so can you take me shopping for some things I need, and oh, I'm a little short on the rent, can you help me with that, and by the way, the cat needs its shots, and..." etc., etc.
Been there, done that.
Sure, a real life relationship can be wonderful, but cheap, it ain't.
If economy is your goal, keep it all business.
It is that plus you become the repository of all her complaints and problems "My clients pay me to be nice and treat them like a king, but you are my boyfriend so I am gonna dump all the girlfriend crap on you". That takes place even though you give her a lot more than clients do.
I am married. We are in an open relationship but it is just with clients/providers. We are open and honest with each other, that is how you make it work.
You both have to agree that transactional sex is NOT cheating.
Men do. Ladies do. And if the lady is married, understanding that dynamic and why, how, when and for how much she is allowed to play is relevant. Saw a provider lady allegedly (exclusively for 3 of the 10 yrs) i knew her. Great fuck. Great fun. But proved to be dishonest. Saw it coming. But thought she actually was into me. 500 k investment for uncovered sex with a suburban mom, playing with permission of cuck hubby, not a wise investment for soul to soul fun.