That's a tough one. I would assume that most people are responsible and smoke their weed or whatever at home, but there's always some idiot who can't separate business and pleasure. I would would think there would be some method of testing people for sobriety on the spot, I think that would solve the safety/privacy issue.
A few months ago, a provider posted a rant about being fired from her "legitimate" job because a co-worker outed her as an escort to her boss. Unfortunately, the provider did not indicate what company she worked for. It would have been nice to boycott them. If I found out a local (or national) business fired someone for being a provider, I would no longer do business with them, and I would also out them on social media and encourage other people to not do business with them. Conversely, if I knew of a business that was going out of its way to hire former (or current) sex workers, or former convicts/drug dealers, for that matter, I would go out of my way to do business with them. And this applies not only to the hobby, but to the larger world as well. Know where your are spending your money, and don't do business with companies that try to influence elections, rip off their customers, treat their employees like shit, etc.
Your vote with a dollar does count. In fact, it may be even more important than your vote for a political candidate.
Your vote with a dollar does count. In fact, it may be even more important than your vote for a political candidate.
for many years Disney has been boycotted by hard right religious groups. Hasn't had a measurable impact. These are fairly large organized groups. A few people from a social media site won't be missed.
It is your money and if that is how you want to use it go for it.
Your vote with a dollar does count. In fact, it may be even more important than your vote for a political candidate.
...but knowing that you are true to your convictions is satisfaction enough.
that NEED to be fought, not just the ones I can win.
For years I've refused to buy anything made by Gillette or P&G because of their animal testing. I could never get past the picture of the bunny rabbit with the messed up eye. So sad! So even though I grew up with many P&G products, I found others that were less ethically challenged, and have eliminated my need and desire to buy P&G products. Then a few years ago they announced tat they'd stopped animal testing. Big deal. I no longer need or have any use for any of their products.
Absolutely. If we cannot live our own lives by the principles we believe in how do we face our selves each morning.
Whether or not this amounts to fighting any battles (re Master Zen) or not it is a case of living by example and if we do that here as well as in all the other aspects of life we're at least being true to ourselves -- and if the principles are good ones we're setting a good example for others to follow.
I've always been a firm believer that one can never lead from behind (which may be a problematic statement here.... 
Some companies go out of their way to market themselves as family oriented. That is their right. Hookers, strippers, porn stars etc are bad for the image certain companies want to project.
Boycotting a business because they fired a sex worker who hid that on a resume or violated some "morals cause" will not have any affect. The general public would agree with it.
Once in sex work for any length of time a girl should just forget about a career in the straight world. That's one reason why so few of them can fully retire.
Boycotting a business because they fired a sex worker who hid that on a resume or violated some "morals cause" will not have any affect. The general public would agree with it.
Once in sex work for any length of time a girl should just forget about a career in the straight world. That's one reason why so few of them can fully retire.
It may not be just their image.
As a guy who has been a CEO I can tell you HR gets all antsy and wonders what else the employee hasn't told them, if she engaged in sex acts to gain business, if the company might face any liability.
Those people can create worry from a glass of water lol
would ever hire a sex worker. They'd be violating that pesky morals clause they signed when they were hired.
Hiring hookers, strippers, porn stars etc is bad for the image certain companies want to project. I guess that means pretty much everyone who hires a sex worker should forget about a career in the...err.."straight world".
oh..wait....
Boycotting a business because they fired a sex worker who hid that on a resume or violated some "morals cause" will not have any affect. The general public would agree with it.
Once in sex work for any length of time a girl should just forget about a career in the straight world. That's one reason why so few of them can fully retire.
And I have the right to take my biz elsewhere .
That is why I avoid Chick-Fil-A , Cracker Barrel & Hobby Lobby.
Oh , I know the loss of my patronage has zero affect on their bottom line. But not supporting them does have an affect on my sense of self esteem
The local Chick-Fil-A near me sure does employ some sexy young women.
Just curious as I'm not sure about Cracker Barrel or Hobby Lobby but is that because they are owned by people with religious convictions -- my understanding is Chic-Fil-A isn't open on Sunday because the owner is Christian. Or have they all expresses some type of complete intolerance for "sinners" or at least certain sinners?
That is why I avoid Chick-Fil-A , Cracker Barrel & Hobby Lobby.
Oh , I know the loss of my patronage has zero affect on their bottom line. But not supporting them does have an affect on my sense of self esteem.
It isn't about closing on a certain day.
Many business are owned by people with religious convictions but do not deny health care choices or employees constitutional rights to love & marry whomever they choose.
Hobby Lobby refuses to provide birth control in the health care packages for employees ( well , to women ).
Chick-fil-A corporately opposes same sex marriage
Cracker Barrel terminates employees if it's discovered they are gay.
Not of these positions IMHO opinion truly reflect family values or authentic religious text. They do reflect fear & narrow kindness & cultural religious positions.
I concede their rights to conduct their lives and businesses in such a way.
But I ain't going to patronize them.
That is very true but at the same time I don't really see it as a characteristic of a free society that claims personal privacy is important we should be all too happy about either. As long as the girl was presenting the correct image while on the clock with the corporation we should not get upset about what happens elsewhere. I know, it's got some gray areas there but but as the starting principle I think that's right.
So from the pragmatic this is what it is position I agree. From the perspective of "while you're representing the company...." perspective I also agree. From the "in a different area of their life they do X so that's a reflection on the company/the company should care" perspective I think we have a ways to go and should not just accepted what is as what ought to be.
I don't reward hookers for bad behavior nor do I reward any other business that chooses to put themselves "out there" where it comes to preaching morality.
There are a lot of businesses out there, both large and small that claim to embrace "Christian values" I am sure it's an effective way of pandering to all those "Good Christians" out there who share their espoused values, but I am not one of them. By claiming Christians are your target and preferred customers, by default I am a second class customer to you so GO FUCK YOURSELF!!! is my attitude where it comes to businesses that preach their version of morality.
Do I have even the slightest delusion that withholding my business from these holier than thou fucktards is going to have even the slightest effect on their profitability? Of course not, but I do have the satisfaction of knowing my money is not going to support a business who's ownership I despise.
No. "whose."
You're welcome.
People live in stereotypes and believe that sex workers, drug dealer, convicts should be isolated. And people in general like uniforms, war drums and "great" ideas. You can navigate and make life better for yourself, having individualistic inclinations, but when someone talks about global happiness for everyone, this is invitation for the trouble. Mind you, I feel very sorry for the fired girl, but not much I can do about it. Xo
Your basic Q: ID the name of the biz: is a separate issue, 'cause you can't answer the 2nd Q w/o that knowledge, but
Some businesses are not allowed to keep certain potential security risks in their employ for regulatory, legal or other reasons. An escort or a john can be blackmailed. (A reformed thief can have some jobs but not ANY or all jobs in a company.)
Waitressing at Cheesecake Factory (saw that on Big Bang Theory) shouldn't be an issue. What's she going to do? Give up the company secrets on where they buy their napkins?
However, in some businesses - finance, security, IT departments, anything with valuable assets, etc. - someone with secrets to protect is a potential risk.
Now, once outed, the secret is out and the threat of blackmail is removed, but there are still laws and regulations in some industries concerning the hiring of people with criminal histories.
And how far does your stance go? Stealing a loaf of bread (Jean Valjean; Les Miserables)? Wife (or SO) beaters? Stalkers? Rapists?
Should any old convicted felon be allowed to be, say, a policeman?
Your vote with a dollar does count. In fact, it may be even more important than your vote for a political candidate.
It depends on what the crime and the job are. Someone who has been convicted of embezzling obviously isn't qualified to handle cash. Now the ex-felon as a policeman, that's an interesting one. It could go either way. The cop could be really corrupt, or could draw on his past criminal experience to tackle the problem of crime.
My basic gripe is over the issues that don't hurt anyone. It's illegal to discriminate against an employee for being gay, so why should it be legal for sex work (escorting aside, there is plenty of sex work that is perfectly legal).
And as far as business rights go, I put them under individual rights. I mean, what if a business owner is in the KKK and doesn't want to hire or service n*****s? There was a time when that issue had the support of the general public, but it doesn't mean that the general public was right.
As GaG recently noted, staying in the closet will never help our cause.
OMG.... I read thru the whole thread and that is scary!! Thank you for sharing!!!
is person's private business as long it is not harming others
Your vote with a dollar does count. In fact, it may be even more important than your vote for a political candidate.
Many people who work for large corporations, and many who have the higher paying upper level positions, are subject to morals standards to maintain their employment...and this trend has been moving further down the ladder as time's gone by...many companies consider your actions outside the workplace a direct reflection on them and their employment standards...thus soliciting prostitutes, for many, is grounds for dismissal...
In a perfect world we would all be able to live as we please...unfortunately this is far from a perfect world...
In a perfect world we would all be able to live as we please...unfortunately this is far from a perfect world...
In a moral sense, yes, what we do on our own time is none of the company's damn business. Legally, well...workplace drug testing, anyone? Employers have far too much legal leeway over the degree of control they exercise over their employees. However, with more and more states legalizing weed, the drug testing will hopefully be challenged in court one of these days. Now we need to make some headway with our hobby. Out of the closet with us!
I worked in an industry that had mandatory drug testing. I felt it was an invasion of privacy, but there was the flip side of the coin. When you are surrounded by huge pieces of mobile equipment, you do not want the operators impaired. I took the whiz quiz. Basic safety issue.
On the other hand, I know of at least one project manager that assigned his bean counter the task of encouraging and facilitating the opening of a brothel in the nearest town so the employees would have a place to relieve their tensions.
That's a tough one. I would assume that most people are responsible and smoke their weed or whatever at home, but there's always some idiot who can't separate business and pleasure. I would would think there would be some method of testing people for sobriety on the spot, I think that would solve the safety/privacy issue.