I love Seinfeld. Every freakin episode relates to life. Kids these days will never understand!!! LOL
is there something that's a red flag that causes you to second guess meeting someone new ... for me its when someone has over say 150 reviews. i imagine everyone has their own criteria. ....... or if her chest is smaller than a D LOL .. ( thus nevertoolarge! 
A new girl that has a flood of great, new reviews, all by clients who only have that one review, is a major red flag. The other biggie is a model-esque looking provider, who is charging well below market rate, and is using a sketchy website.
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Those two situations are almost always a no go for me.
Robert: my website is *not* sketchy.
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If a girl has an OF and she sets the subscription price to something like $50.
Signals to me that’s she’s still early in maturity to curate/create services (since she could get more people through the door and make more money selling content etc with a lower entry cost).
Signals that she’s too focused on the short-term cash and doesn’t see the long-term value that a satisfied customer can provide.
And the experiences with these providers have mirrored that (in my experience): rushed, upsells, less intimate.
After I send my initial intro, I'll get the "Hey Babe" or the "Hi Hon" response. That response will end any conversation going forward.Now, most of these responses come from non-review or girls.
So... before anyone says, "why don't you see reviewed girls". On occasion I'll come across an ad where a young lady will grab my attention, no reviews. So I'll inquire and take the chance.Sometimes I like to beat the bushes to see whats out there.
I only see girls who are completely shaved.
Sometimes, I come across ads loaded with what a provider doesn’t do or want you to do. It almost seems like she’s angry/upset that clients do these things. I get bad vibes when she seems so focused on what not to do/say. Last thing I want is to book an angry provider. We all know some clients can be time wasters, jerks, and get on a providers nerves. But you got to not wear that on your sleeve and let it jade you with every other client.
Your comment is contradictory. If the provider is pissy and does not want to be doing this, wouldn't you want to know that from the ad? Why would you want to see a provider who seems very friendly and chipper in their ad but in real life hates her job and is a bitch? This is good criteria to weed out providers that are going to be a waste of money, she is doing you a favor.
You really got it out for me with the troll posts lol. But sure, I will entertain you anyway.
The question asked about red flags. I answered the question appropriately. There is no contradiction. You're eluding to the idea I would want someone to come across peachy and be an actual bitch in person is not remotely what I said or even implied. Of course that would be even worse, and of course the actual red flag is doing me a favor. But it's still a red flag. Isn't that why we have red flags? Are they not intended to be things that help us/save us? Have you not been in situations you regretted, and in hindsite said to yourself, "I should have seen the red flags?" So yes, I want all of the red flags life can offer to help me navigate and make the best possible decisions.
If she comes across as peachy, there is no red flag. And, if she is an actual bitch, I may be SOL. That said, the tone of an ad can be a tell. Some of the absolute best escorts I have been with are ones where I felt their ad gave me a glimpse into their personalities, and that glimpse was something I found very attractive. And, I have decided not to see escorts because I was turned off by the tone of their ad.
In addition to ads, I have also make decisions based on Twitter posts and posts on the board here. I have unfollowed and decided not to see providers because their Tweets were constant complaining. That was my red flag. And, you can say they did me a favor. I have also booked providers because I liked their vibe. If their chatter seems like a match for me, they rise to the top of my list.
OK, this is getting awkward. Do you really not understand when someone is fucking with you and when someone is having an actual discussion with you? I do not have it out for you, I don't know you. We are typing nonsense into the universe, we are not curing cancer here bud. You are taking this way too seriously.
Here is where you contradicted yourself:
"But you got to not wear that on your sleeve and let it jade you with every other client."
I love the “I was just fucking with you” response. That’s a classic troll thing to say. Way to stay in character.
And lol to that being a contradiction. That is not me saying don’t wear it on your sleeve just in your ads. That’s me saying don’t wear it on your sleeve period. If you don’t, then your ads and you irl can be positive. No red flag. No bad experience. It’s all good.
Alright Stretch let’s see what else you got.
Were you taken off the tit too soon as a baby?
when guys with no reviews and sketchy stories of why they don't have any reviews try to pass themselves off as experts in P4P. The irony here is him calling YOU a troll when you actually engage in commerce on this site and have reviews of your own to prove it. He thinks he's clever with his ruse, but most experienced mongers and providers can see through it.
Or the ones who don’t announce they require a deposit. You go through screening and at the end they want a deposit. Well if you had it listed to begin with I wouldn’t have contacted you in the first place.
The need for a deposit should be stated prior to screening, not after. I cant remember that ever happening to me but it would def dampen my enthusiasm to see her.
Calling me "honey"" baby" "sweetie" in the first message. I do not know you. Keep it light and keep it professional.
Asking for a discount in the first message.
Giving me a checklist of what you want to accomplish with explicit sexual details in the first message. Instant no.
Saying in the first message that you know we are going to hit it off and you want to be a regular. Again, I don't know you. Just because you think we are going to hit it off does not mean I am going to think the same about you.
Dick pics. Don't do this. Ever. Very good way to get black mailed by some mentally unstable drug addled rando or Mohamad who is living in a hut and cos playing as a provider. Never a smart move. Keep it in your pants, slick.
This reminds me of a very funny Seinfeld episode.....
"He took it out"
I love Seinfeld. Every freakin episode relates to life. Kids these days will never understand!!! LOL
I watch it WAY too much! 🤣
I insert Seinfeld-isms into my every day life more often than I should lol. Your post immediately reminded me of the "He took................ it out" episode.
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Yeah. Providers who post on forums other than advertising.
is there something that's a red flag that causes you to second guess meeting someone new ... for me its when someone has over say 150 reviews. i imagine everyone has their own criteria. ....... or if her chest is smaller than a D LOL .. ( thus nevertoolarge!
It's a red flag for you if a woman posts on these boards? Why???
Whew! Good thing I am not a provider!
Ladies who refer to themselves as 'elite', 'bespoke' etc. who will let you know of their alleged advanced college degrees and all the wonderful places their suitors have taken them.
I agree, it always comes across as very conceited and contrived. Being elite usually speaks for itself. Also, bragging about their education kind of makes them seem like morons. I'm supposed to think you're smart because you spent all that money on an elite degree and couldn't figure out how to leverage it? You blew a bunch of money on a degree and now you blow dudes for money, sounds great. I mean sure, personality matters and having a witty, intelligent companion is great. You still gotta fuck like a champ though. I'm not paying top dollar for analysis, I'm paying top dollar for anal. I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of them are lying. Anyone can say they went to Harvard but none of them are showing us their diplomas.
Hint: if you have to SAY you're classy, you're NOT.
Well, I respectfully disagree. It’s possible for a lady to be classy and state that she is. If a lady, for example, receives compliments over the years that she’s classy, a class act, or something of the sort, she may feel it’s wise to market this aspect. I think there’s a difference between being self proclaimed and taking advantage of feedback.
But yeah, the type you mention exist too. There are those who self proclaim they are classy, and they just plain are not. There’s plenty out there who subscribe to the “ignorance is bliss” club. I’m just saying, stating it might not make it true, but it’s also not an automatic falsehood either.
One of the most experienced and reasonable posters here. If you had any kind of real experience, you would know that a provider self-declaring she is "classy" is merely for the purpose of charging a few hundred dollars more without any added value to the session. "Classy" because she can walk in stilettos without her ankles folding in is NOT the same as classy from breeding or education. Not surprised YOU would fall for this one from a provider.
The ones who actually went to top schools might be more likely to not share that information. But I am sure of the ones who share it, some are true and some are not. It's hard to know for sure.
Before I stumbled onto TER, I used to search the web to see what I could find about a provider. I came across one who looked smoking hot. My search on the web showed she attended and graduated from Standford Law School and was tied to a scandel with Bill Clinton. I decided I had to see her, lol.
Anyway, I learned that it started out as a means for her to pay for school. The original plan wasn't to do it longterm. She planned on being a lawyer. But she made so much money, got so many gifts, loved sex, and enjoyed the lifestyle. She also realized she didn't love being in a committed relationship. When she tried, she found herself sneaking around and escorting. Not just for the money, but because she was drawn to the lifestyle.
Despite all of this, she is also aware of how society views her decisions, even other escorts. Many would question why she would escort when she has a law degree, as if it's perfectly fine to escort when you're not educated. But when you have a degree, they act like there was something more wrong with her career choice. Many cannot understand the idea that a woman might just enjoy escorting, even if she is educated.
I can tell you first hand that a number of providers not only enjoy providing, but actually love it. The Champagne, the upscale dinners, the gifts, the occasional trips, the adoration, etc are all things than many of these women grow to love that maybe they didn't think would happen when they first started out. Some women actually enjoy the sex! lol.
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Yes, stipulated, there are burnt out women in the biz but what line of work exists where that doesn't happen? People dont think doctors and lawyers get burned out? And when someone doesn't give themselves time away from something, i.e. a planned vacation, hiatus, etc that feeling of being burnt can grow to them becoming jaded, or worse, anger.
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I have said this before but I get burned out at times in this lifestyle. When that feeling comes, i.e. the thought of a date with a hot, young girl doesn't thrill me, that is my mind telling my body to give myself a break. I know plan them, in advance, as that is how experience has helped me.
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I think in my case, specifically, I see very few women that I find are jaded, as I tend to see girls that have only been doing this for a few, short years, or in some cases, just weeks or months. Not sure.
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Great post!
Clients need to be careful when sex workers tell us what we want to hear. We're paying for a fantasy, the Girlfriend Experience. We want to feel like the provider likes us and enjoys having sex with us. Nobody is going to book a provider that talks about hating their job and the sex they have with clients. It is very flattering to believe that the fit and hot 20-something provider really loves having sex with out of shape dudes in their 50's and 60's. There are providers that love their job and the related sex. There are also providers that love the money and are good at acting. The thing is, we can't always tell the difference. There have been plenty of sex workers that raved about their chosen careers, only to sing a different tune once they retired. As a client, don't ever let yourself get too deluded. Even if they love the sex they love your money more.
I think in my case, specifically, I see very few women that I find are jaded, as I tend to see girls that have only been doing this for a few, short years, or in some cases, just weeks or months. Not sure.
Back in the day, before I did TER and when I visited Boston and NYC strip clubs ... several exotic dancers were students or alumni of the major local elite colleges and universities. (You don't know the buildings, courses, and other minutiae they could accurately talk about without being closely affiliated at some time.) At least one of them I knew went on to med school. Another one was definitely on track for med school and probably made it. Those might be two rare cases. I can probably think of a few more examples if I put my mind to it.
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(I can also recall a mainstream calendar model. I recall some who were wisely investing in real estate. Some were saving up to start a small business. I.e., some were classy, some were smart, ... )
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OK. Back to TER ...
I agree, it always comes across as very conceited and contrived. Being elite usually speaks for itself. Also, bragging about their education kind of makes them seem like morons. I'm supposed to think you're smart because you spent all that money on an elite degree and couldn't figure out how to leverage it? You blew a bunch of money on a degree and now you blow dudes for money, sounds great. I mean sure, personality matters and having a witty, intelligent companion is great. You still gotta fuck like a champ though. I'm not paying top dollar for analysis, I'm paying top dollar for anal. I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of them are lying. Anyone can say they went to Harvard but none of them are showing us their diplomas.
Mandatory minimums e.g. 90 mins for new clients and labeling hour long appointments "brief encounters".