Just talk to her. Let her know that you thing she is attractive and see what happens. Just a little flirting, I don't think any woman will mind being told that she is beautiful. She did stop by your table, maybe she likes you. Try for the pick up. If she is doing anything on the side, she will let you know that it is business. I agree that she probably isn't, in which case, what's the harm with a little flirting?
The fact that he had to ask you where she went would suggest they hadn't arranged anything. After all, he could have just made any excuse to leave if they had planned something, asking where she went just leaves the suspicion of an arrangement like you describe.
Maybe it's a side effect of the hobby that we think we see more than really is, especially with a pretty woman involved?
I'm well aware that I'll get the usual players criticism, but here goes. I live in an area of the country that the nearest hobby town is a two hour drive, and that's not a TER hobby town I'm talking BP. So all of my hobbying is done while traveling. So I'm at my Country Club a couple of weeks past and I'm talking with the only good looking woman that works there and she mentions out of the blue that she cleans houses on the side. I didn't really think much about it til the next weekend when I was at the only nice restaurant/bar in our little town and she stopped by for a drink. I said hello and bought her one. Another member of the Country Club, older and less attractive than myself stops by the table and starts talking to her as well. No big deal to me because I wasn't trying to pick her up or anything, she's out of my league in the civie world and less than half my age. She gets a text from her girlfriend and after thanking me for the drink says she's gong to meet her at another bar (a total dive bar). So she leaves, and this other guy stops by my table and asks where she is, I told him she left and where she went. He turns to the table he was at and says "ok I'm out of here". I knew he was going to the other bar and his reaction was such that I thought hmm, I wonder if there's more going on here than meets the eye. So I went to the other bar to observe and it's my opinion that they have an arrangement. I would very much like to have an arrangement with her as welland 'm wondering if I may have missed a sign from her when she said she cleans houses on the side. It's a delicate situation, I certainly don't want to insult her, but I like to bang her p4p of course. Let me know your thoughts, and for the haters, I really don't care what you think of me.
See what she says and take it from there.
Doesn't have to be sexually oriented, but just engage her mind. I'm sure once she feels comfortable bringing up the subject, she just may tell you she cleans pipes, too.
Sorry to rain on your parade but do you not think it's entirely possible that the other dude just decided to follow her to the other bar and take a chance, they had both been talking in the Country Club.
The fact that he had to ask you where she went would suggest they hadn't arranged anything. After all, he could have just made any excuse to leave if they had planned something, asking where she went just leaves the suspicion of an arrangement like you describe.
Maybe it's a side effect of the hobby that we think we see more than really is, especially with a pretty woman involved?
Just talk to her. Let her know that you thing she is attractive and see what happens. Just a little flirting, I don't think any woman will mind being told that she is beautiful. She did stop by your table, maybe she likes you. Try for the pick up. If she is doing anything on the side, she will let you know that it is business. I agree that she probably isn't, in which case, what's the harm with a little flirting?
The fact that he had to ask you where she went would suggest they hadn't arranged anything. After all, he could have just made any excuse to leave if they had planned something, asking where she went just leaves the suspicion of an arrangement like you describe.
Maybe it's a side effect of the hobby that we think we see more than really is, especially with a pretty woman involved?
Maybe I just want the possibility of an arrangement and so I'm making more out of the situation than is really there. Good thing I'm not a Psychologist or psychiatrist as I might be broke if I were. I do know this much though, I'll never get any of that if she's not into an arrangement.
The fact that he had to ask you where she went would suggest they hadn't arranged anything. After all, he could have just made any excuse to leave if they had planned something, asking where she went just leaves the suspicion of an arrangement like you describe.
Maybe it's a side effect of the hobby that we think we see more than really is, especially with a pretty woman involved?
How the hell will you ever know if you don't take your shot? I ALWAYS date women out of my league, I am a rather average looking guy in my mid fifties, I KNOW what my league is supposed to be and I refuse to play in it. The difference between you and me is that I refuse to accept the fact that any woman is "out of my league" and that I can't have her because of it.
Go for it, what's the worst that can happen? The other guy didn't seem to have any problems going for it. Does he have something that you don't? Well besides a bit of confidence of course.
As you can read in my response to panthera12, I don't want to date her, I want to play and have her leave and both of us be good with that arrangement. The reason for my original post was just to get a feel for if I missed a signal with the "I clean houses on the side" comment that she made.
Go for it, How else are you going to know for sure. If she has given you an opening with the whole "house keeping" deal, use it. You don't have to be an ass about it (unless you want to) and ask her if she'll "clean your pipes" as well, but you can always hint around to see if tips will get any "extra service"
None of us were there to know if she was sending you a missed signal or not, you are the only one who can aswer that question and it sounds like you aren't too sure either way. Again, my advice is to ask her again about her "house cleaning" service the next time you see her and see where it goes. The worst thing that could happen is that you end up with a clean house. lol
Seriously, some guys have no balls. Haven't you ever picked up a woman before? The worse she is going to say is no, and you can move on to the next pretty face.
Spend some of your free time seeing if you can bump into her again. Mention your previous conversation and see where it goes. If nothing else you get your house cleaned.
I'm in my 50's probably less than average looking, but most importantly I'm sick and tired of the stupid game. This is why I p4p, I get what I want, how I want and with good looking younger women even if I have to travel to get it. I'm no longer interested in settling for the women I can attract, and having to put up with the bullshit. Money I have. Youth, good looks, patience and willingness to play the stupid game... Not so much! So the fact that you feel I have no balls isn't of importance to me. The only reason I started this post was to get a feel for if I missed a signal with the whole "I clean houses on the side" statement she made. What I do not want is for her to think I want to date her. I want to play and then for her to go home and both of us to be happy with that arrangement.
clean your house, she'll also check out the pipes. This was how it was done in the old days. A couple of days ago, a gal I met at a bar, tells me she just moved into a new apartment, and she can do ANNNYTHING she wants in that apartment.... anything, then she calls me and asks what she should order when she is in an Indian restaurant!!! This gal is sending signals, look at the suggestions below, but I am more direct, a lot more direct. I usually ask 'so what do you like to do?" and when they come back with traveling or reading or going shopping or to the movies, I take the opportunity to ask, "no, I mean sexually!" And if they are interested or offering, the conversation takes a different twist and accelerates rapidly.
If I wanted a subtle way of telling a guy I was a hooker or sugar baby, I would not use the phrase "I clean houses." He would think I am a damn maid. I would say something along the lines of, "I take care of things men need taken care of" and let their mind wander.
And I can't wait to find out first hand some day soon.
Take her up on the offer...let her clean your house and almost 100% you will be fucking her for money. You have nothing to lose but a clean house and spit shined cock....right?
.. did I miss a signal. How the fuck should we know! We weren't there! Take a video next time and post it.