SHE SAID. That's the point. SHE can say anything. The question is who do you believe and why.
Do you really believe a seasoned,professional, mature provider would demand a restaurant dinner after the client suggested room service? Do you really accept that the provider says "I require deposits, so I know this encounter never happened"?
Maybe he embellished, maybe he made it all up; but that's for admin to decide, should they pursue it. Her word is not any sort of proof, just an accusation.
And like I won't accept her word, I won't accept ONLY his word as to the legitimacy of a provider. There has to be other lines of evidence. Other reviews, SM presence, established websites, etc...
I just got a review that made my score increase 1%
I’ve been requiring a deposit to book, since nice 2010, so if you’re going to write a free review for VIP do it someone who does not care. I do. My last review is a fake. He posted several fake reviews recently. I contacted him because I’m missing the deposit for the overnight date he posted. 😆 TER I’m waiting for a response because it’s bs. I reached out to the other providers & 1 response states he’s joe blow=bill shit.
I think many providers are happy with 9/9 review & weeks lol never report fake reviews. I liked the well written review, but my bank is missing the booming funds & I never would cancel a dinner date for room service willingly. We ordered the same meal & desserts. Lol ok show me the proof for your free VIP.
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TER should allow us reputable providers to verify reviews prior to posting bs.
It's funny, I read that review before you said anything because it came up as recent in a search for the LA area. And while it was very well written, I thought that it didn't sound like you. Good luck btw in getting it removed. Hope it goes well for you.
Providers having veto of reviews will obviously result in lots of negative or at least, less glowing reviews, getting cut.
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TER's bread and butter is reviews. So naturally they are going to reward reviews. Hence the production of fake reviews to earn rewards. But if TER stops giving rewards, reviews decrease, decreasing the utility of TER. So that isn't happening either.
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And of course there is no way (or shouldn't be a way) to prove a meet happened, because that's just the sort of evidence that is useful for blackmail or prosecution. So that isn't happening either.
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The only thing really available is user discernment in judging reviews. A copy cat review, the sneakiest kind, really doesn't alter the overall picture of the escort. And outliers, either too good, or too bad, should generally be given less weight due to their infrequency. Beyond that sort of analysis. not much is possible.
Very well written Lester. There is one scenario that is a bit more challenging. When a copycat review is based on a too-good or too-bad review. Therefore, now making the ones you would throw away and be suspect of the norm. Sometimes, this happens because a provider does not have enough reviews to tell which is which, and sometimes, this happens because the reviewer is lazy and just reads the most recent one and copies it without doing a little more research. And then we get into a situation of "A Lie Can Travel Halfway Around the World While the Truth Is Putting On Its Shoes."
I guess would say that as long as the review that was written, be it real or not, is descriptive of what to expect, let it be. If it creates false expectations (positive or negative), then fight it for all you're worth. I am wondering if there might be a way for a provider to respond to a review like companies can do on Yelp, for example. If that might help.
A topic that has been one oft discussed in these forums.
I agree that those us use reviews in their decision making really need to develop the skills for judging reviews, and that that will be very helpful for their efforts in finding enjoyable experiences.
I don't think one only consider a "provider can easily have review removed" as an alternative to what TER currently has in place. I would not see anything wrong with allowing a provider to tag a review as disputed on some, or all -- implying fake -- points. Some claimed that would just result in all the bad grade reviews getting disputed. Okay, perhaps some providers would do that. But isn't that actually something that is very good to know about the person? Personally, I would see that as an indication I would not enjoy seeing that person.
But under that structure a provider can at least feel they have notified everyone that the review is disputed rather than just waiting for TER to make its decision, and in the meantime for those not searching the forums for such claims, or reading daily, and just checking reviews they will see the challenge to the review as well as the review.
I don't see why a provider wouldn't want to dispute every non glowing review. Therefore it is safe to assume every negative review is disputed. And therefore flagging that fact is redundant. Just assume every negative review is disputed.
Agreed. There's generally already not a lot of incentive for writing negative and non-glowing reviews. You can get threatened, blacklisted, chastised etc for writing a negative review. And many have a problem because they care about a providers feelings or business or are too gallant.
Hence why there is lack of negative reviews in general. But also why negative reviews, on average, tend to be more accurate and also more detailed.
Some might. But who cares. If you saw a collection of reviews where the provider disputed everything under some level who you go see her regardless? I would not and would consider that useful information to have available -- says something about her personality and ethics/values.
But it is still redundant. If she had a ton of negative reviews and disputes them all, you already know to stay away because of the weight of all the negative reviews -- her disputes, as you say, don't improve her image. Conclusion is redundant. Similarly someone with only an occasional negative review, who disputes them -- you already are likely discounting the outliers, so her dispute doesn't change her score in your mind.
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So I still say, just assume every negative review is disputed by the provider and therefore a dispute note is redundant.
Who was talking about all these negative reviews? The OP said the fake review she got actually increased her average. I just said scores that were below some level they didn't like. We see complaints about reviews that are simply below the average she has or some level she wants. We see good reviews challenged as fake by various providers a couple of times a year it seems. In these cases basically you've got the provider telling you if she has GPS or not if she is challenging a lot of those "bad" reviews.
Other aspects that might also be useful for everyone would be situation where the review included something they got, but is not a general menu item and should not have been included in the review. If the provider doesn't want everyone else asking for that or expecting to get it being able to dispute that as a service she offers might help everyone. Do the dispute function itself doesn't need to be just "I don't like the score so will claim a fake review." It would also solve the oft heard complaint that TER is unresponsive to providers reporting fake review. Which then could be updated by TER with either insufficient evidence to resolve, provider able to supply sufficient evidence but review unable to so appears a fake review or the reverse case and a tag saying the review stands.
But this is all moot -- TER is not likely to do all the work to implement such functionality. So don't worry, be happy.
But yes, for those that have mostly low scores for their reviews most here don't have interest in seeing her they won't care if the reviews are disputed or not.
I do it all the time. As long as the basics are accurate, no harm no foul.
Embellished she said she’s never even met with this person… next thing you know he’s saying yea she’s legit about a provider and then boom ARRESTED,, criminal record, job loss. Are you even thinking about what you saying guy?
SHE SAID. That's the point. SHE can say anything. The question is who do you believe and why.
Do you really believe a seasoned,professional, mature provider would demand a restaurant dinner after the client suggested room service? Do you really accept that the provider says "I require deposits, so I know this encounter never happened"?
Maybe he embellished, maybe he made it all up; but that's for admin to decide, should they pursue it. Her word is not any sort of proof, just an accusation.
And like I won't accept her word, I won't accept ONLY his word as to the legitimacy of a provider. There has to be other lines of evidence. Other reviews, SM presence, established websites, etc...
I believe the person with multiple reviews written about them not the person that has a verifiable track record of writing fake reviews lmao wow I really thought I’d have to go into a bit more details but it’s really just that simple.
It is that simple to me that is because I’m not the one trying to convince others,, infact you seem pretty interested in getting this person and their fake reviews legitimized one must think to self if you know this person, stand to gain or have some other sort of connection to/from this profile that I has written, again I say, verifiably fake reviews?
That last statement was formulated as a question to self as previously stated and public information not a question to you sir, for the clear and unobscured record. I don’t get into nit picking battles online and you seem to take things exceedingly personal quite often. Ohh that’s not you my mistake it’s someone who sounds like you in almost every discussion/comment that Miss QueenBia is on, Miss or Mrs. My apologies if you’re married.
I dont get it. To say they're verifiably fake you need some proof. Where is the proof?
So right now, your statement of "I believe the person with multiple reviews written about them not the person that has a verifiable track record of writing fake reviews"
Really is just "I believe the person with multiple reviews written about them, not someone whom this person allegedly says is writing fake reviews"
And hence it simply reduces to
"I believe a providers word over the reviewers word"
since all supposed proof of the reviewer making fake reviews is held by the provider.
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The ONLY, ONLY thing that might sway me to believe Queenie is that she has little to gain from crying wolf. It was a positive review. That said, she does seem to have few boundaries when it comes to driving traffic to her profile.
I'm always surprised that some are always ready to question one claim but accept as fact claims from the other side.
Nothing here is anything but claims and hearsay -- with the exception of what we do and know ourselves. So facts largely never exist here and we all should realize we're trying to come to some conclusion/judgement based on circumstantial evidence. Cross checking and seeing which bits support or undermine other bits of information is needed. But that is work and don't make a post come across as "knowledgeable" or confident to many it sees.
Blah Blah did he send a deposit to book & additional funds to reserve an incall location to host?
No.
Why are you still talking about a guy that didn’t send you the required deposit??
I think you should hire a private investigator to hunt this bastard down!!!
Once found we can take him to the town square and put him in a Pillaory and will all throw rotten fruit at him, and you can dance naked in front of and laugh in his face.
Or is that too mild a punishment for his pernicious crimes???
I will chip in $100 for the PI.
lol your non facts and undeniably funny scheme to laugh at a naked man in the town square made me giggle.
I’ll chip in $100 on the PI as well, who else wants to join in on said endeavor? I know a guy
I think you hit the head of the nail with your "Blah Blah". You're entire post, other than the suggestion that providers have some mechanism to respond to a review they claim is fake or inaccurate is just that. It's you saying something that no one here has any way to verify. Why is your word better than the reviewers for me? It isn't -- both are unverified claims from people I have basically not basis for assessing their honesty.
"Blah Blah did he send a deposit to book & additional funds to reserve an incall location to host?
No. "
So YOU say. I certainly don't know that occurred nor can I verify your claiming he never did. You've been on this platform long enough to know how it works. Send your story to the admins and they will do whatever they will do. Presumably they will be able to gather some evidence from both sides and make a more informed call that anyone on this discussion board.
But on this board you saying no deposit was paid is just "Blah, Blah...." since none of us can actually know the truth as some independently verified fact. Stop arguing about it. Noting this reality is not a claim that you're lying.
I am sure every reviewer writing a fake when questioned by TER will say Yup - you got me. When in fact will most likely make up any story they can so as not to admit guilt and the possibility bod being banned . Through the years have seen way too many saying mistakenly reviewed wrong provider - and would venture a guess that most of those were the correct provider just an out for the guilty.
TER does NOT make it easy to get a review removed and think that if they do not remove should be internally logging the complaint/ request to match up - where there is smoke there is fire maybe.
It’s all about how you form your request. And sometimes it could take awhile but they won’t leave it up forever. It’s important to get the bs taken down because what I see happening is that people make multiple fake reviews good ones too giving praise and great reviews to multiple providers who they dont have a problem with or who they don’t see as competition then slander ell out of someone and ruin their business. It doesn’t just happen in this world it happens on review sites for businesses, bars, restaurants. The world is being controlled by people that spend their entire lives trying to influence others but can’t make it as influencers and can’t get famous. The more free flow of economic money didn’t go away and things didn’t get worse after COVID for no reason, it happened and is still happening because smart people lost there jobs and decided to do smart things which fcked us all, the more smart people in the wild the less money in your pockets and mine, they need to start giving these ppl there jobs back and watch what happens. So many things will happen, but that’s another topic for another time.
What I said works because now they have plenty of credibility from ten reviews to make an impact on the community and say things like “that doesn’t mean much from someone with 1 review that’s questionable..” do you see how that would get into a regular ter users head and with ten reviews they can also get into the reviewers only board and I’m sure being on there gives even more credibility to throw your weight around and influence the upper echelons of ter. it actually tell you a lot, it tell you that that person is attempting to get into that discussion board because they have something to say(malicious of course), you know it’s some bs and malicious because of the tactics they used to get to the platform they need. One day some random being slandered and the next day it’s you or your business, best to be straight up and get the account banned before they have a platform to stand on. There are a lot of things you can do with a platform, any platform.
I hope this was helpful and I didn’t go to over board but malicious tactics and spotting them is easy for me because I trust no one and it’s one of my favorite things to do for some reason haha I dislike bullies
It didn't feel like a legit review so I reported it. So far, that's been the only one I've reported. 
This was a review of someone else.
Regardless if you make that mistake that’s on you. People that write fake reviews should be banned from writing reviews. That’s what a stand up guy should say. Or maybe it’s just me because I’m not a yes man
You should feel the same way unless you sympathize with feds that want to take your businesses and job away from you
Bia you have got to stop posting on this board like it's some kind of normal business with normal people. Yes many are, maybe including yourself, but sometimes I wonder. Look a very large percentage of escorts and their clients are a bit whacky, generously speaking.
I really think you live in this fantasy world and you believe you're doing a simple service like a personal trainer or an acupuncturist.
While your concern may very well be legit you are just wasting your time.
Many of the guys that live on this forum like any social media are often not who they propose to be, but you chat like you're at a party at a friends house.
For someone that's been at this for many years I can assure that a lot of reviews are fake which is pathetic but when you are hanging out virtually with total strangers what do you expect.
Get over yourself and as I've said many times find some other place to meet human beings, and do it soon before AI takes over.
As for reviews they are pretty much total BS, not all, but A LOT!
There is not a single 10 in looks selling sex for cash When in fact a 10 would most likely be a fashion model or an actress and just have to simulate sex for $10 M per movie!!
I notice here 8-10 scores , as well as other sites with same highly inflated ratings. We live in a strange world where a 60 year old obese grannies can still get 10's in looks.
If you really think you can control fake reviews then you are delusional.
Perhaps you can open a restaurant and that way if someone writes a fake review on Yelp, they will follow up with you
Now forget this guy and lighten up and as this cooky woman on the Fuck Board often says: "Smile for Me!"
I've been saying many of the same things for years but it's basically pissing into the wind, though it's nice to hear someone re-iterate it in his own words.
Bottom line: sex is one of the most mysterious and neurosis-laden things in which humans engage. So this game -- and this site -- attracts its fair share of people with major malfunctions in the area of sex. Their sociopathic behavior touches everything about this service and this site. To not understand this is to be vulnerable to all kinds of manipulation, drama and dysfunction. Oh, and it's ILLEGAL.
But if "The Queen" wants to pretend she's a purveyor of holy healing, well, that's far from the worst thing that happens in this world.
Smile for me!
When I’m online I like to think it as a big friendly party and we’re all in a sky box where Taylor Swift! Life is a lot more beautiful when I’m with Taylor in my mind but then again I don’t consider Taylor a ten I’m more of a Katrina Jade kind of guy myself.
Please continue to post Bia you’ve been pretty informative and helpful, and I’m sure there are a lot of unspoken voices that would agree and appreciate what you do from behind the scenes. Of course they may not be verbal about their appreciation because then they would have to deal with Tom, Rick and Tom.2 but oh no,,, lookout,,, here comes Tom.17 …. .
to TER. If it’s a review of someone I know well and it seems fishy, I’ll give the provider a heads up about it and she can do or not do whatever she wants about it.
If a review contains something unsafe, such as enough details to pinpoint the provider’s location, I report those to TER.
I read a review of a lady I've seen pretty often and the reviewer said she did BBFS with him. That stood out to me as being very shady. I can see maybe it wasn't offered to me after seeing her once or twice but after a dozen times? I would think I would know SOMETHING about that at some point (not that I would ever accept that offer.) Plus she has a lot of reviews, none of which mention BBFS.
I let her know and she got pissed (not at me) and must have reported it to TER and got the review removed.
What proof did she have? What proof COULD she have had that she did or didn't provide a particular service? NONE. But apparently whatever she told admin was enough for them to removed the review.
Once review is disputеd, TER asks the reviewer to present porof that conversation and appointment took place. There isn't much ter can do to determine whether all the details were correct.
There are of course many problems with such approach for both sides. If the appointment did take place, but review is way off TER has no real way of determining that. So provider is powerless as long as there's prоof of appointment taking place.
If the reviewer does not lрgin into ter often, he might just miss that message. He also might have delеted all the communication traces from his burner app/phone. Then his review will be removed, which isn't ideal.
He also could use some basic photoshop skills to fake the proof of appointment. A lot easier to do this in 2023 than in 2003.
There is no universal approach to determine the fakeness of a particular review, especially if each side has to gain something off such a review. I typically tend to side with the reviewers since they have less incentive to post negative reviews than providers have incentive to purge negative reviews. Still, I do see mаlicious reviews from time to time.
I've seen other sites adopt different policies, such as allowing comments and discussion of reviews. However, they require strict mоderation as often discussions just devolve to back and forth (which yours truly is guilty of often enough). So in the end, its still a judgment call by someone who had no idea and is just leaning on intuition.
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