don't worry, I don't plan on intervening. but I do find it amusing that swim would make the mistake of "demanding' that only women respond to his OP. Any one who has been here this long should know that that is like blood in the water to a shark,

I will confess, you sound like someone who has been waiting for this opportunity for quite some time. I hope you get your money's worth. lol

and that's why I said that swim was on his own here, but he is a bit out of shape after spending a couple of years almost exclusively on the Newbie board, so don't be too hard on him. Give him a chance to get in "fighting shape" before going after him too hard. lol

I see so many ads for 'outcall only'.  Other than the obvious reason, not being able to afford an incall site, why do outcall only?  Seems to me, incall would be much safer for you than going to a strange guy's house or hotel room, knowing very little about him.

unless on tour of course. Outcalls work  best for couple multiple hour dates per week while incalls are best for multiple one hour dates per day.

When I started i ONLY did outcalls.  Then as I became full time provider I probably did 50/50 depending on the kind of date.

As for safety - I would rather be on the gent's territory than in my incall.  Proper screening takes care of dangers of being at some strange guy's house/hotel room. Plus if for some reason the guy does turn out to be an asshole .. he is more likely to behave well if I am at his house/hotel room.

Nobody wants some pissed off hooker trashing their hotel room (especially on business trips) or screaming profanities in front of his neighbors.

Add an hour to 90 min. to the time we are being paid for, plus the added annoyance of having to park, possibly pay to park, walk through the hotel in full attire, find the damn room in some of these bohemiths, change when we get in, do the deed, change AGAIN, fix our faces to look like we did not just get fked, walk out with a wad of cash alone at night... um, no fkin thanks lol.  

Incall costs money..? Right? $$$$.... Remember those $20 that come out of the ATM machine? When they come out, your account balance goes down by the same amount.. Same principle when you use your debit card..  OK..So we got that one squared away.. Stay with me now newbie..Come to Washington D.C - The Home of Washington Nationals, room is about $250-350 on a week day. So bacially if you don't have at least 2 hrs booked on that day, you are in red.  

Swim on General Board.. What else we want? Lets rip him apart.. :

I like swim.. Don't get me wrong. He gives some good advice to the newbies, and has lot of patience.. But geez."Guys, please don't respond..." I mean even Taylor has stopped doing that lately...

I used to do incalls. In NYC, you WILL increase your profits...but most of the dudes who like incall are the ones looking for convenience. They want a girl they can see all the time, conveniently located by Grand Central station so they can 'pop in' on a few hours notice after work.... Great $$, but all shorter dates, feeling on call, etc.  

We should be easy on him a little bit, so he stays a little longer..

...Shye on the L.A. board.  She PM's him when she's about to post so he can immediately respond how great she is.  He's clearly the winner of Mangina of the Year now that the K-boys have their own board.



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For me, it is basically a cost vs. return problem. I prefer outcall, but I am not outcall ONLY. I'll happily get a hotel room if needed (with an advance deposit). If I were available more frequently, maintaining an incall would be feasible. But since I have an extremely low "volume", the expense isn't worth it to me.

For Vegas I can see it being simpler because most clients want you to come to their room.
I don't do outcall for too many reasons. Also, being in an unfamiliar person's house fucking to the sound of silence is never fun.

Can't stop laughing!! Having not heard the word "dingbat" in ages Ha Ha Ha

you ladies can't control your environment. Ever wonder if their were other people in the room, suite or house? Or if there were "lights, camera, action!" for his & his buddies viewing pleasure later? Or even worse, on an amateur porn site.

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there are days on my calendar that I state outcall only.
Those days I don't plan to work if I do its a one client deal and don't mind coming into the city for an outcall.
Many of my clients have beautiful homes and I love visiting them.
Ill do outcall only on a day I cant devote to incall all day but don't mind seeing one Gent or sometimes two in the city.

So that qualifies me to answer your question. What was the question?

I personally have done both. There is a benefit to both, depending on each individual situation. I'm not sure I understand your statement about not being able to 'afford' an incall site...I don't understand that. Include it in the rate or add it as an additional expense at least as an option for gents who literally can't provide the location for discretion. So that confuses me a bit.  

Ok, he's a huge fucking mangina. lol

You aren't right very often, but this is one of those rare times.

I have other women who maintain the lease on the places I use when I am not around to use them. It's a win/win for me.  

LOL. Add to that there are GUNS and CAMERAS that can be hidden in a personal home... fk a guy in his wife's bed while she's out of town? No way in HELL. Guys also tend to have the bright porn star lighting, tv on when you arrive, etc. I do incall because I set the mood and the atmoshpere for a GFE, and I am also at liberty to let him stay as long as I want. If I am in some cold hotel room, I can't wait to get out of it. Seriously, I don't get how some women can stay couped up for HOURS in a one or two room place. I would go nuts! Where do you sit? The bed, in most cases because guys on business rarely rent suites. The company pays for a damn room with just a bed, a table, maybe a bar, and a bathroom.  

We revoked his card years ago, and if I remember correctly, he wasn't even eligible to re apply for another one for another five years or so.

I have clients that I visit for outcall only. Some are not able to come to me for various of reasons, so I will drive to them. I don't live in a heavily populated area, so a short drive(an hour or less) doesn't bother me. I won't ever go on an outcall in a unsettling area. Most requests are either in a private neighborhood or a beach town. My schedule varies so I try to provide an incall for my regular friends during the week and keep the weekends open for outcalls. Safety is always a concern, but I have never felt threatened while on an outcall

and I don't have a permanent incall, and I don't charge extra even if I'm paying for the incall for just one client (which happens frequently).  AND I charge extra for outcall.  Thus, my profit is MUCH higher for outcall than incall, and yet I still prefer to do incall.  The ability to control my own environment is worth that much to me.

He had recently earned back his man card. I issued it for a year but I can still revoke it if he weeps at your reply.

Swim is a "nice" guy, but one of the biggest manginas on the boards.

I would say the newbie board suits his personality, unlike the previous two mods on that board which included yours truly. I also modded this board AND the P&R board at the time. I was in serious danger of developing "multiple personality disorder" after a couple of years of keeping order in a place like P&R, but having to be "nice" on the Newbie board. lol

As for Swim's man card, I also hope he read the fine print where it says that "Panthera's man card" is not necessarily accepted universally, and that said card might be rejected by others, even if not revoked by the issuing party.

And it didn't take long at all!

And I am always cheritable at this time of year. You should have seen the look on his face. It was like he was just baptized, a look of astoinshhment, fright and gratitude all wrapped up in one.  
The fine print says revocation at my discretion.

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I seldom if ever do outcall anymore..

It will be revoked January 2nd at which time I will stop being so damn nice to everyone.

When you go to outcall, you are not expected to provide refreshments...

It's not a question of affordability, I just don't see the benefit.  

don't weep. They simply read and move on without the likes of what most on here have to say keeping to themselves (my kinda guy)  

mangina to you because he knows how to talk to a woman respectfully on the boards?.......NOT a mangina. Not even close. I think you need to come up with a new definition of a 'mangina'.  

I am unpredictable and can turn on a dime, especially when tempted or provoked. Never waive a raw steak and yell "come and get it" while running away. It will guarantee a chase but maybe not the anticipated result of being caught.  

works hahaha and I pictured it too...remember I'm a very 'visual' chica myself. Ya know, men have their periods too sometimes worse I have noticed...ahem, unpredictable and turn on a dime...sounds like PMS symptoms to me lol.  

You thrive on manginas, if it weren't for manginas you couldn't make a living. It's no wonder that Swim is exactly the kind of guy you want to see on these boards. He is the type of guy that would never call you out for anything you did wrong here, unlike those of us with spines. (Sorry Swim, but it's true)

FWIW Swim is not the only mangina that I like Scoed and I are good friends and he is not only a mangina, he is Mister Mangina around here. If you don't believe me, just ask him.

I'm not outcall only, but I've done a ton of outcall and prefer it, hands down. I will only do an incall if the room is paid for by a client (b/c I only do exclusive incalls without multiple clients), and I don't want to invest in a static incall b/c it's too permanent. I don't like to work often, and working to pay an additional rent a month is working too much for me. I might be lazy though. It's good there are incall ladies for all those guys who prefer incall. As far as parking goes, when I've visited outcalls with my car, I've parked in clients' garages (only those I know really well who are trying to be discreet) or driveways (single clients without nosy neighbors) or on the street. I've carried a briefcase, when needed to appear as a professional. But it's never been an issue, and I've never concerned myself w/ a client getting my name from my license plate; I have his from screening after all. What's good for the goose....IDK, it's never been an issue though. But this is my comfort level and I don't expect it to be for everyone, so it's good there's different strokes for us all.

Yup, You are probably in a high rent area... you could have three incalls in the south for what you would probably pay for one where you live. I rent my incalls out to other providers I know and trust, and I have their real names before I do. That's how I can get by only seeing 2 or 3 guys a month, and still have incalls everywhere I go... someone else is paying for them lol. I also have a real job now, so don't mind the extra money.  

stalkers. I mean serious paranoia like I needed medication lol. Seriously though, it wasn't the best experience for me and I wouldn't do it again...but more power to those ladies who can do it without any issues.

Understand all your concerns about both situations.

Most of the hookers really despise much of the chat here...especially when the terms like hooker are used  LOL

anyone's job to call anyone out on what they do 'wrong' here....are you the TER King now? It's your opinion....and it's certainly your opinion only on the sayings of what I have posted as 'wrong' while many think it's right or at least 'just'. This entire board is 'interpretation' based as well as the review system...don't you get that yet? Where's 'justanillusion' ...........

hit some key points for sure, perhaps you do understand the Taylor's of this world, perhaps......

Cooking and spray tans, hmmmmm!

xoxo,

Steph

I use to do mainly outcalls. It was just easier.  

Maybe you should go for it, you like 50ish hookers, don't you?

Remember, you owe me one for this, lol

Secretly I have always wanted a 50 year old hooker to have a crush on me too. I guess I will have to see two twenty somethings today to make up for it. lol

and when I am 95 I will wear it proudly, even if I have to hire someone to type my posts for me at that age. You should learn how to wear 50, I am well over fifty myself and having the time of my life, but I guess admitting your true age wouldn't be good for business. Don't worry, I am sure Swim will still love you even if it turns out that you are actually 60, that's the beauty about "gentlemen" (manginas) like him. He'll never judge you, while guys like me consider one of the main purposes of TER is one of judgment, otherwise why would we have a rating system in the first place?

are you jealous?  

and those ladies who "can" do it without any issues are most likely simply lucky, and that luck can run out at any time.

Oh, crush "on" you, not "crush you". Sorry, my bad. lol

You better hurry though, she just invited herself to join me on whatever beach I find myself on. but I would hate to stand in the way of "true love" so you two go ahead without me.

I do not have to pay for a private incall PLUS, I can arrive early to scope out the area to see if everything site right with me. Plus, I don't have to worry about the extra work of setting up the room, refreshments, etc. So much better.