You points are well taken. Didn’t mean to be dismissive with Angelina - the “take a hike” comment should have been a question, which you have provided more insight on. TY.
For what it’s worth, I intended on putting clean bedding down for the visit, then replacing with the originals to avoid the “Downy fresh” smell, and washing the used sheets to put back in the closet. Still, I realize there are many other details to consider.A little preface before I get to my question:
I have been interested in this hobby for almost a decade, checking ads when time permitted some play. I’m extremely picky, so for years no one interested me enough to kick this hobby off. Finally, last month, one women toured through my area whose photos blew my mind. I ended up seeing her on 2 separate occasions, for a total of 6 hours. She’s everything I could ask for in a provider and we really seemed to hit it off, even communicating with me afterward. Then FOSTA passed the Senate, and all contact is now answered by her scheduler.
I want to have a long, memorable date (24 hr) filled with food, wine, etc.. with her but my work/home life is pretty rigid so even if she tours nearby again, my ability to create such a date would be nigh impossible. The only way for me to make this happen is to arrange it around my schedule and pay for her travel to my city. The potential exists for such a date, per her scheduler, once I nail down a date.
Two remaining details, (1) I'd prefer to arrange this as an outcall at my residence (I have a clean, upscale house to enjoy and use as a base of operations) and (2) I have a SO, but the date will be during a time when she is travelling.
So – onto my question:
Based on my discussion board search, my choice of date length and having her travel for it seems pretty unusual. Not your typical overnight date while a provider is in town, and not a multi-day trip or vacation where travel is essential. Any advice from mongers or providers - dos and don'ts, similar experiences you could share, foreseeable challenges in light of FOSTA?
But that would be mean, so here are some actual thoughts.
There's an old expression: "Don't shit where you eat." In this case it means, having this date at your residence is a REALLY bad idea. First of all, how can you be sure your SO's travel plans may not change? Second, if a nosey neighbor knows she's traveling and sees this other woman, how do you know he/she won't blab? So if you really want this, spring for a nice incall somewhere else.
Last: this has nothing to do with FOSTA/SESTA. Those bills don't mean there are new boogeymen hiding behind every tree. LE is almost certainly not interested in busting you and an indy provider.
Good thoughts. I’ve been putting much thought into this. (1) I’d likely be the one driving SO to/from the airport, so I’d be in the loop. (2) Not that close with any neighbors, shades pulled, attached garage - no real chance to see anything.
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Using your home address exposes you to a host of potential issues. Just don't do it.
Message received. Thanks for the advice - and for not calling me stupid. LOL
You caught Jake on a good day . . . . but not me. I won't say it ether. I'll just think it to myself. Lol
In this circumstance I totally agree. Sound advice...
Using your home address exposes you to a host of potential issues. Just don't do it.
Women have an amazing sense of smell, and I would also offer that they have a type of ESP whereby they can just sense that another woman has been in their lair.
Get yourself a nice hotel room and relax. What you propose by the way is not that unusual. I have hosted gals who traveled to me on several occasions.
A long time ago, we briefly had a young nanny who was (bleach) blonde and favored skimpy outfits. It was late summer in the DC area, and that dress didn't stand out all that much (I thought). She was an incompetent nanny and she only worked for us for about three weeks. Fortunately, she quit before we had to fire her. However, as soon as she showed up, all sorts of neighbor women that I had never talked to before started asking me about her. They didn't come out and say it, but the implication of most of the questions seemed to be "are you banging her?."
We talked about sex often when we were together, and I expect that I would have had to start lying to my neighbors about whether or not I was having her goodies.
She will know!!! Too often there is a clue left behind, whether a scent, your guilt, an item of clothing, etc. Find a different location for the date!
I appreciate that. I’ve been making a list of things to check afterwards - wipe down shower and tub, check drains, change bedding before and replace after... but I can’t possibly think of everything can I?
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to add "write last will and testament" to your list. You can check EVERYTHING afterwards, but you still can't protect yourself from a BSC provider. I have had a few providers at my place, but 1) I'm single, and 2) I have seen them multiple times before somewhere else first. My MILFY neighbor is not an issue. I PREFER for her to see women coming to my house, because when she saw the kinds of women I have over, she stopped hitting on me, at least for awhile.
I did some incredibly stupid things when I was younger.
If you can afford to do this, you can afford a nice hotel room. The risk is WAY too high.
I say to you do not bring her into the home I repeat I say to you do not bring her into the home . Better for you and better for her. Get a nice 4 or 5 star room for the night. You never know what if the S.O. should come home. You surely dont know each other well enough to that.
Take her to place's that dont know you. Have a limo pick her and take her to the hotel she will need first class travel. time to get herself together. Lots of details to do it.
Hope it works for you
Not crazy, however, very crazy to rendezvous, at least for an "overnighter"
in your own lair.
Even though we may not pursue investigation, however, as women,
we have a sixth sense when another female has "penetrated" our domain.
Book a nice hotel and carry on.
P.S. She has not chosen due to Fosta/Sesta/Whatever,
to suddenly require scheduling through a "Booker".
Something tells me you're communicating with her much too often, and you
may be freaking her out, as in you're displaying "stalker-ish behavior" possibly?
There's a very apparent demarcation between Provider & Client.
"Time is money", which includes constant communication and/or "time".
Just my 10 cents.
Thanks for the PS. Believe me, I thought the same at first, and you may ultimately be right although there is some evidence to the contrary. Besides, if that was the case I’d expect the scheduler to tell me to take a hike.
The switch to contact via scheduler has little to do with the new law, if anything. Angelina made some good points, and don’t dismiss them by thinking, “if that was the case, the scheduler would tell me to take a hike”. The scheduler would do that if a client was a DNS kind of fellow. In your case, it seems your interest in the provider was only leaning problematic, so the switch to contact via Booker is only a wisely employed preventative measure.
Fellow hobbyists here have strongly advised not hosting at your home. Here’s one more vote for you putting her up in a nice hotel or Airbnb. Extended arrangements almost always include a set amount of alone time. It’s a lot easier to do that smoothly if she’s got her own place to stay.
Providers have given you the perspective from not only a provider perspective, but also your SOs perspective. Again, a hotel/Airbnb situation just makes for a more enjoyable experience, and reduces the chance of being exposed. Your counter-measures are extra work. Scrubbing down the bathroom? Scouring the house to be rid of clues? Why make a special fling such a chore? And what about the sheets? Do you normally wash them? You think your SO isn’t going to think ???? when she comes home to Downy fresh linen?
If you really want to fufill a fantasy of banging this beautiful woman within your castle walls, bring her by the house before dinner. Have fun, and then go out, and return to a hotel where you don’t have to worry about anything but her.
You points are well taken. Didn’t mean to be dismissive with Angelina - the “take a hike” comment should have been a question, which you have provided more insight on. TY.
For what it’s worth, I intended on putting clean bedding down for the visit, then replacing with the originals to avoid the “Downy fresh” smell, and washing the used sheets to put back in the closet. Still, I realize there are many other details to consider.
It wouldn't be the first time a girl has had to pretend to be a booker to scare away a needy or pushy client, or to keep him at bay.
Her ph# was never posted, but was given to me. Our communications seemed mutually desired; she’d respond, sometimes with personal details. I was sensitive to the provider/client barrier, and at one point I told her to inform me if I should stop communicating with her since “I didn’t want to be that client that wouldn’t go away”. Our communication continued anyway until FOSTA past. Since then she has updated her site several times stating that her ph# is no longer active, now only keeps phone for personal use, etc.... Seems a long way to go to throw off a “needy” client - but I won’t deny the possibility.
Funny you mention that. Read an article recently where 3 escorts interviewed one of their regulars with the same questions. When asked “Do you care about me”, they unanimously said yes. I don’t think there is anything wrong with caring about the people you cross in your life. I don’t think that necessarily constitutes feelings though.
Anyway, I’m not looking to start a relationship. I just don’t want to miss out on a good thing. Carpe Diem!
...coming on a f*ckboard to ask if you are crazy for trying to arrange something, and then systematically arguing the repeated (and unanimous) affirmative response.
Hmm, I feel I’ve been receptive to the feedback so far. The only one I “argued” was responding to to specific situations that were posed. Feel free to think otherwise though.
I think you'll be fine. Just be careful with the SO.
As I'm sure she is for you to consider such a treat.
Made me think of a situation that still haunts me in the most pleasurable way.
A friend asked me to come over after we had been together on my turf.
I jumped a cab and went over.
Was very nervous because of the possibility of the w showing.
He took me into a room that echoed.
Least it echoed in the throes.
Fast forward,
He would ask me years later time and time again.......Why I came to him?
Especially when he asked what my favorite experience w/him was.....
All I said was.....
Echo Echo Echo.
He's since moved and hasn't backed off the spirits. Far as I know...
Sometimes the echo doesn't let up. No matter how hard one tries.
What ever you decide. Hope it's fun!
You said earlier that you'll clean up your "crime" scene afterward. No matter how diligent you try there's always danger of something you overlook or miss.
All it takes say is a strand of hair left behind on the pillow, the bed, bathroom sink, bathroom floor... of different color and/or length from your SO.
Or an earring, hairclip, lipstick etc... under the bed or some other corners.
Of course there will also be scent left behind on your bedding.
I agree with others. Why not just rent a hotel room and have 100% peace of mind?
All the other posters have mentioned leaving a trace or the six sense. Holy shit. What about she knows where u live!! Not all things that start we’ll end well. What if she just shows up at your house one day!
You are not only crazy u have gone deeply off the deep end. Never ever ever give a provider your address no matter how much u love her at the moment.
Nah....hes gotta pay to get her there this time. Doubt she'll show up for free. Lol! But for Christs sake....get a damn hotel! When momma bear comes home, she's damn well gonna know that Goldilocks was sleeping in her bed and slurping poppa bears porridge!
You mention that she is touring. Sometimes that means she is touring to your area from another state.
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Which reminds of a story. The porpoises at the zoo were being particularly frisky and displaying behaviors not suitable for family viewing. The zoo keeper knew that he could calm them down with a meal of freshly killed sea gulls. The quickest route from the food prep area to the porpoise tank was through the lion cage. It sounds dangerous to carry fresh bloody kill near the lions but they were old, tired and well fed. The zoo keeper took the dead birds into the cage, hopped over the lions sprawled therein, scratched Leo behind the ears and proceeded to feed the porpoises who quickly calmed down. As he left the lion's cage to go back to the kitchen, he was cuffed and arrested. "What's goin' on! What'd I do? What's the charge?"
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"Transporting gulls across staid lions for immoral porpoises."
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Eliot Spitzer had arranged to be visited at his DC hotel room by someone that would come down from New Jersey. He was being investigated for FINANCIAL crimes but they could have charged him like the zoo keeper. I do not think it is a problem in your case as she is making the trip to your area as a planned tour. You are just meeting her there (at a HOTEL, NOT at your HOME) and did not do anything with her travel.
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Any excuse to tell the staid lions joke. Thank you.
some mornings after a night of carousing with one of my favorite ladies. If TER tries to ban you for posting a photo of another member, let me know and I'll speak to them about it just being a coincidence. You had no idea.
Some like doggie. Others prefer lionie.
some mornings after a night of carousing with one of my favorite ladies. If TER tries to ban you for posting a photo of another member, let me know and I'll speak to them about it just being a coincidence. You had no idea.
Not sure what city you are in, best to take her to the hotel. Wives are mysterious creatures....they know when a random woman been in their palace....and they go hunting
Priceline or hotwire...
Your best friend.....
The overwhelming majority of you have used words like “disaster”, horrible idea”, etc... to describe my plan. I thank you for your candor.
To answer the question of why I am even considering it, it meets all the necessities for an extended date. I have a guest suite with an attached bathroom for necessary personal time, and my house has ammenties (spacious rain shower, separate tub, wine cooler, whole house music system to set the mood and accompany activities) that pale in comparison to even a 4-5 star hotel. I’m aware that extended dates like this are about more than the obvious, so knowing my environment allows me to plan things to do in between. Compared to hanging out in a hotel room all day, except meals, it seemed the better option. Afterward, my cleaning efforts would be limited to the few rooms used and my robot vacuum would do the heavy lifting for hair, earrings, etc.... A few hours of manual labor to clean/restore the house to normal seemed a small price to pay.
It’s obvious that the risk goes well beyond that. Your comments have definitely given me food for thought.
Get a room. don't take her to your place of residence. If you want things to do "in between", then go to a museum, a movie, the zoo, a night club, on a hike, whatever.... the list is endless. PDA's and flirting "in between" can be a very strong aphrodisiac and may help turn the fun times into fantastic times.
Unlike you, however, I am single, and live alone. Bringing ladies home, be they providers or civvies, may be noticed by my neighbors (most of whom are married couples, many with kids of various ages), but isn't going to cause a scandal because they know I am single, and never cause a ruckus. Also, the fact that a couple of the ladies I have brought here in recent years were providers probably hasn't registered. These ladies weren't third dates, but rather friends I have known for years.
That said, I agree with most others here that you should not play at home if you have an SO/wife who also lives there. Too many things can go wrong, and it's not worth potentially blowing up your life when you can play on neutral ground. In this game, it's always best to play it safe, and it sounds like you have the resources to do so in comfort.
This one time(not at band camp!) I was moving a soon to be ex gf across country to her new job. We had already broken up and I was out ther driving her in my rented car to her 1st couple of days at her new job from a short term rental until her truck arrived at her new place with her car and stuff later in the week. I had the days to myself and touristy things to do, distant relatives to visit, etc.
After a couple of days I figured fuck it, I need to get some so my fingers did the walking and I had a provider over...this was pre internet...anyway I let it slip to the provider what the circumstances were after she arrived- my idea of small talk at the time. Her danger radar came up as we sat there and turned what should have been a relaxing time into a short and unsatisfying waste of money on my part. Even though I explained that my ex was an hour away with no vehicle, she was my ex, not someone I was going to continue a relationship with, I was leaving town soon, etc.
I get why everyone is trying to tell you not to touch the stove. The provider will know on some level this is a fucked up sketchy energetically scenario, especially if she and you connect as well as you claim, whether you mention that you have a live in SO to her or not. If the danger of being caught/ de tected heightens your excitement in theory, it won't in practice...
"Surveys say that 25% of the time it works every time!!"
Better to have her off site. Even if you'd like to entice the provider to your world further and plan to break up with the SO anyway, better to bring her by your place for short visit and then return with her to her hotel. Too much risk afoot but also too much is off about the scene you're planning unless you're specifically in an open/ swinging lifestyle or something like that.
He can’t be freakin’ real.
Why take the risk?
Is he serious? I’m just saying...if he is why? Why when there are soooo many alternatives.
N2...
I believe the consensus is NOT to have an outcall at your place. Both ladies and guys have stated, there are too many things that could go wrong.
Of course, you are the one who ultimately makes the decision...
Good luck.
A fave of mine told me that she went to guy’s house. The guy sits on a chair and she’s blowing him. His wife comes home and sees this.
Needles to say the guy didn’t cum
I’da given $1,000.00 to have seen this!