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justoutofcuriosity 1714 reads
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1 / 33

Would you be willing to reveal your personal information to a professional screener if it is someone who is well known with a reputation for discretion and honesty?
Meaning that rather than giving information to a provider you would submit the information directly with the screener.
I am thinking of screening full time and am in the process of building a screening site.
There will be no provider advertising and the ladies will be screened who request my services as well.
Thoughts ?Input?

renaissanceman70 27 Reviews 495 reads
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2 / 33

It sounds like the same set of issues that have (so far) prevented me from using an agency. I don't want paper trails and would want to know where my information was going. And since my skepticism (and the history of agency busts) prevents me from believing assurances of information destruction anyway, I don't see what would change things.

Of course, your services sound an awful lot like an agency, whether you are calling it that or not.

Just my honest $.02, since you asked.

johngaltnh 6 Reviews 393 reads
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3 / 33

I prefer to keep exposure to a bare (har har) minimum. And dealing with a screening service whose sole purpose for being would be to do screening for the hobby sounds insane.

Just like an agency, it would be a concentrator of lots of valuable data in a small place. The absolute IDEAL place for LE to hit and grab the computer. And, frankly, take down with a nice conspiracy charge. Especially if there is even ONE dealing across state lines.

It would also be a GREAT central person to be grabbed and flipped for LE purposes. Who better to flip than the screener who screens for 50 ladies? Talk about a bust!

Priapus53 280 reads
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4 / 33

For the reasons listed with the 2 posters above.

justoutofcuriosity 431 reads
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5 / 33

There would be no "paper trail" because once you are cleared and your information report Emailed to the provider I am totally through with you and everything is deleted.
You would be directed to the website by your chosen provider not referred to a provider from the site.
As I said there will be no provider ads on the screening site.
Just a form.
But I understand your concerns.
Thanks for responding.

justoutofcuriosity 312 reads
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7 / 33
hungry1951 29 Reviews 300 reads
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8 / 33
SFGentleman 2 Reviews 297 reads
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9 / 33


You weren't too clear on what 'personal information' would be included.  However, I've never had a problem seeing escorts who needed references and I'd probably be OK with giving similar information to a screener used by a lady I wanted to see.  IOW, up to a point, I just don't care about paper trails whatsoever.

mrfisher 115 Reviews 264 reads
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10 / 33
renaissanceman70 27 Reviews 298 reads
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11 / 33

Here is the dilemma:

You say you might be the only agency in the country that doesn't save info after screening. Every agency website I've read says the same thing. Yet there are repeated busts of agencies with releases of client info.

So, with no personal slight to you or your agency (I live across the country, never dealt with you, etc.), how do I know who/what to believe? The facts suggest that lots of agencies are lying about getting rid of data. When the pitch is the same and the facts are contradictory, what is a cautiously-minded hobbyist to do except skip them all completely?

In my brief stint in this hobby, I've given out my full personal info all of one single time, to the first lady I ever saw. I went through some effort and expense at that time (non-sexual meeting fully on the clock) just to show her my info and establish my identify and validity to her comfort level. There were no records made, during what was the most expensive lunch I've ever bought. (But worthwhile nonetheless!)

Now, despite references, whitelists, etc., I have never been to an agency. I'm not complaining about it, as I haven't had a problem finding lovely ladies to see. As a hypothetical exercise, you have an agency that spends money to advertise and has ladies eager to see clean, respectful gentlemen with cash. I have the funds, but can't do business with you, because I won't give out the  personal info. Is there no alternative method that would satisfy both our concerns? Mine: privacy, yours: safety.

I'm asking you since you are an agency owner who reads the boards, and I've been puzzling over this Catch-22 for awhile. I'm curious about the issue, as are other guys in the same situation, I'm sure. Feel free to post back, or PM privately if desired.

Ren'man

MSON123 44 Reviews 276 reads
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12 / 33

No matter what the good intentions are. A 3rd party can not be trusted. For that reason alone I do not use agencies. Only well reviewed independants

Loves2Dine 18 Reviews 290 reads
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13 / 33

a site is the same concept.  But they have sites for that already.  But many ladies use someone else to do their screening, e-mails, telephone calls, etc.

justoutofcuriosity 284 reads
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14 / 33

and they keep a database as p411 does.
there would be no database involved just an hour of screening.report sent to your provider and deleted.

anonymousfun 6 Reviews 258 reads
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16 / 33

Reputation and discretion is relative. A good honest genuine relationship have a tendency to go very wrong tomorrow. We live in society that is bent on revenge and hurting the other when one gets mad. In that respect, providing personal information to a 3rd party is even more riskier than providing the same information to the provider directly.


Isn't that  P411, Date Check and verification sites do? How are you going to protect the information you collect?  How are you going to protect the site from hackers?

If you collect private information, you are liable for protecting it under Federal Law and many state laws. If you think no one will take you to court because this is not a business people want to go to court, think again; all one has to do is get good attorney.

Setting up website is easy, securing and protecting it is not so easy.

johngaltnh 6 Reviews 270 reads
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17 / 33
anonymousfun 6 Reviews 305 reads
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18 / 33

Now you brought in another unknown variable exposing to more liability.

anonymousfun 6 Reviews 255 reads
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19 / 33

and has an impeccable reputation. One of my favorite agencies to work with. Very classy.

anonymousfun 6 Reviews 252 reads
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20 / 33
justoutofcuriosity 286 reads
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21 / 33


Your verification on those sites can be years old.
This is done in real time and gives the most up to date information possible.

And...Once again..after the client has been screened
the referring provider  gets a full report and the information is deleted I apparently can't say this loudly enough..lol
THERE IS NO DATABASE


And I might add that you're an idiot if you think I would post publicly what exactly the safety and security measures are..lol


justoutofcuriosity 325 reads
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22 / 33

but to address  your concern,
Your provider receives a written report of your screening,what she does with it from there on out is her responsibility
But it is all completely deleted from my system.

zorbaelgreeko 291 reads
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24 / 33

like sample taster said, and I think I said it somewhere on the la board or general board, why bring a third party into the equation? No paper trail for me, no matter what "they" say, that info on forms etc. does NOT magically disappear. It can and will come back and bite you in the ass if something goes awry. The less people involved in making the appointment the better.

No paper trail. EVER.

penny71 216 reads
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25 / 33
hound_dog69 41 Reviews 223 reads
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26 / 33

How is this different from the datecheck or p411, etc?

Tucker Max 238 reads
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27 / 33

I don't expect the girl to tell me her real name and her life story, so why would I have to do so?

Duplicitouslust 24 Reviews 268 reads
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28 / 33

Dear Justoutofcuriosity:
I was wondering what would this persons security clearance be because we need to know if he or she would be reputable?  Also what would you allow us to have in terms of legal recourse against this person if he or she is responsible for disclosing sensitive information? Also would their be an agreement that one would sign digitally saying that the said information would only be used for the purpose of screening?  Finally can one have proof saying that the information was digitally erased after determining that the client passed muster? Please elaborate at your earliest convenience.

czcodger 5 Reviews 226 reads
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29 / 33

Yes if I gain confidence that you would handle my personal information professionally.

justoutofcuriosity 267 reads
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30 / 33

Yes there would be an electronic contract that the information would be used solely for screening purposes and not shared,leaked or otherwise disseminated to the general public or providers at large.
The point is to help the ladies be as safe as humanly possible by providing up to date information,
and keeping your information secure and confidential.
As I am the only person involved and will have access to any confidential information.I have 7 years behind me as a document control specialist in a secure data facility so I'm pretty "up" on the latest information systems protection software.

justoutofcuriosity 282 reads
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I am winding down my biz and in a few years I want something that will support me and alow me to spend more time with my family and enjoyig life while at the same time allowing me to keep in contact with all the great ladies and gents I have known for so very long.
I know quite a few ladies who are also screeners,bookers,assistants etc.
This may never hapen but i wanted som real feedback on the idea.

impposter 49 Reviews 258 reads
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justoutofcuriosity 310 reads
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33 / 33

If you are sure she deletes everything how does she know it is you when you call? And how does she have your email and phone number for reference requests.

Again excellent question.
The answer to the equation is trust and a reputation for honesty.



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