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Re: My policy
PPTPT 84 Reviews 1451 reads
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1 / 66

Is it me, or does this cancellation policy seem a bit extreme...?

Before I get into the story, one important fact - the provider is Latina and so is the assistant.  The assistant didn't seem to speak the best English.  

I booked an appointment for Tuesday lunchtime with a provider on tour through P411 over the weekend.  When I walked into work Monday morning, I was informed I would be leaving later that day to travel to a client site to do "damage control."  Crap, there goes my planned fun lunch tomorrow!

First chance I get I call her assistant and explain I need to cancel the appointment due to unforeseen work commitments.  This was easily more than a 24 hour notice of cancellation.  I then ask if there was any appointments available for later that day.  I was told yes, but the times available were too early for me to leave work, and I told the assistant I can't make those times.  What happened next kind of surprised me.

The assistant told me I would never be able to book an appointment with this provider again because I cancelled and didn't accept an appointment at a time I couldn't make!  Huh???

I apologized profusely and said there must be a misunderstanding on my part.  I explained I couldn't make the same day appointment at the given times because of the traffic.  

Any of you in the Chicago area can attest that I-90 by O'Hare and west of it pretty much out to Elgin just sucks right now due to the construction.  The available appointment times were during rush hour and I would be travelling that corridor.

After some back and forth of me trying to explain why I can't see her that day, and the assistant insisting I can't ever book an appointment again, I finally told her this is too much work and too much crap to deal with and promptly hung up.

So why would someone have this type of policy?  Is it possible this assistant is doing this without the provider knowing?  It would seem this is a good way to lose repeat clients if heaven forbid they need to cancel.

jaydalee See my TER Reviews 528 reads
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3 / 66

Have a cancellation policy on her P411 ad and/or website?
Some providers do have a cancellation policy in place for 24-48hrs before appt time.
If something comes up and a gent cancels for whatever reason they want a cancellation policy before trying to rebook another appt with him.
Was it possible to book another day or was that your only day of opportunity to have some fun?
I can't speak regarding if the provider does in fact know what her booker is telling clients but I would think that would have been discussed when you were booking the appt.
Majority of ladies who have cancellation policies make it very clear on their website and/or ads and might mention in correspondence so  it is not a big surprise to the gent if a cancellation policy is expected.
Bummer...you could not work anything out

orallyfixated 542 reads
posted
4 / 66

Not to mention totally unreasonable.

Myskyns 47 Reviews 460 reads
posted
5 / 66

I've had two providers cancel on me within 2/3 hours of the meeting but if I had cancelled on them, I would have incurred a cancellation fee.  I never tried to rebook because I moved on to other lovely ladies.

How do most provider's handle the other side of the equation?  

I understand that things (life/work/family) happen for both clients & providers.  

Regards, Myskyns

LilyLondon See my TER Reviews 379 reads
posted
6 / 66

but it's a provider's choice, and if has worked for her than so be it!

I'm sure you've a list of others you'd enjoy just as much :)

anotherdamnalias 456 reads
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7 / 66

So, for the sake of playing devils advocate. Lets say I have an appointment set with you for Saturday at 10am, However, at 2pm on Friday afternoon, I develop a fever and sore throat, head over to my local doc in a box and get confirmed I have the flu..I notify you at 4:30pm Friday that I am sick and can't make it.

You seriously expect me to pony up for cancelling my appointment? What that tells me is this. You do not care about your clients well being, only your bank account.  You'd rather I keep the appointment, get you sicker than hell, thereby causing you to miss untold numbers of appointments and infecting untold people I have never met nor do I care about...Excellent marketing skills !!!  

You should find a better restaurant that doesn't depend on fate and real life getting involved...I'm fairly certain that beef is beef, pork is pork, and chicken is chicken...no amount of money spent on food is ever going to change that. Rental cars are never charged for until you return the car..Doctors don't pay you when they make you wait for an hour past your appointment, Do they? What you have stated is just your rationalizing of your policy, but in fact it's not entirely accurate.

I sorry that whole charging me to cancel 24 hours out is BSC, I can understand if it's 2-4 hours out and you have procured a room, fixed your hair and makeup etc... I totally get that and if you can actually get paid for it, Kudos..

cloudmaka 3 Reviews 441 reads
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8 / 66

I hate to say it but most providers cancellation policies  are really crazy. Sometimes people really just need to be understanding to each others situation. It seems you did go out of your way to make right by her so I would just take my business elsewhere.

  If all you said is true then you did your best to keep to your word but it just was not going to happen so I see no reason why you should be punished for it. If this lady was making a special trip to your area from your request I would say you should compensate her in some way. I would just take my business elsewhere.

 I understand the whole we are paying for there time and we could cost them money by cancelling but that is part of life/part of running a service. If a provider runs into a client that is a repeat offender of this then yes I agree enough is enough and you should be compensated. I REALLY doubt there is many/if any  providers out there that would compensate you if something came up in there life and they had to cancel.

GaGambler 379 reads
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9 / 66

Maybe that would impart the same lesson?

Personally I do exactly as you suggest and I only book appointments I am positive I can keep, over 90% of them same day and almost never more than one day in advance. It seems to work just fine for me, I never cancel on the ladies, but even same day I have encountered NCNS from some hookers with poor time management skills, but not often enough even to really get to upset about.

Obviously you are presenting the hooker POV and I am presenting the John POV. There's plenty of blame to go around. Forget hookers and johns, some "people" are just inconsiderate of other peoples time. I don't see that changing any time soon.

maxwell44 23 Reviews 389 reads
posted
10 / 66

I have also had providers "no show" without explanation to their own incall, after I had already arrived there.  As my time is also valuable, and as I also reserved time to engage in an equally mutually beneficial transaction, then perhaps whenever a provider cancels on me without 24 hours notice, I should use the same rationale that you just used, to demand a freebie.  I mean if one side can demand to be paid without performing any service whatsoever due to "breach of contract", then the other party should also be able to demand something for nothing due to the same "breach of contract".

Newto1000 401 reads
posted
11 / 66

So, you cancel a hotel stay 24-72 hours prior to check-in and the hotel tells you that unless you show up the next day you owe the full amount?  My doctors are so overbooked that they give a voucher when I cancel.  I assume that yours make you pay not only for the office visit, including the 2-hour wait time, but all the testing revenues they lost.  Stop playing the hooker victim.  

Posted By: AlysonParker
....I think. If I'm reading your post correctly, you had an appointment booked around noon on for 11/3 and you canceled around 9:00 am on 11/2. The booker then asked that you reschedule because you canceled 24 hours before your booked appointment, and if you didn't reschedule, you wouldn't be available to make a future appointment. If that's right, it's pretty similar to my cancellation policy and the cancellation policies of other appointment based or unique goods/services businesses.  
   
 My policy is that a cancellation two days before a booked appointment incurs a fee of 50% of the fee, and a cancellation any time the day prior incurs a fee of the entire rate. Obviously we can't wrestle anyone into paying this, so if someone just blows it off I make sure to note it down so that I don't risk losing money on them again. If someone reschedules within a few days, I will usually waive the fee, although it's still super frustrating as I will have likely turned someone else down in order to hold their spot and possibly am losing money on expenses for their date, too.  
   
 It sounds like this booker and/or provider doesn't like to deal with cancellation fees, so they just try to recoup the loss with a rescheduled appointment.  
   
 Yes, things come up but it is entirely possible to not go to a scheduled appointment and still honor your financial obligation. I've said this ad nauseam on here but: when you book an appointment, you're buying our time on credit. You're asking us to hold time - which is what we sell - for you with the understanding that you will pay for it upon arrival. When you cancel with short notice - and 24 hours is short notice, especially for someone who is touring - it is unlikely we will be able to resell the time that we held for you. The provider deserves to have you hold up your end of the deal, either through paying her fee or rescheduling.  
   
 Most of us have had things come up and lost money because of it. It's just part of being an adult and purchasing services that are by appointment or unique enough that they can't be resold. I've paid full or close to full rates for hotels, airlines, rental cars, spas, my trainer, my doctor and my housekeeper because of cancelling somewhere in a 72-24 window. Even my favorite restaurant in New York charges the cost of a pre fixe meal per guest if you cancel your reservation within 48 hours or less.  
   
 There is a super easy way to not risk having to pay a cancellation fee or be asked not to contact the provider again should you choose not to do so: book at the very last minute when you know you can make it. Yes, there is a risk that she won't be able to see you. If that doesn't appeal and you want a guaranteed spot, then you need to be able to provide your half of that bargain, which is the guaranteed income.  
   
 It is so hard to get cancellation fees or deposits out of people that I sometimes wish we could have an industry wide change in custom and all start double or triple booking our appointments and giving the time to whoever shows up first. I know it would be terrible for business and clients would hate it but I think it would impart a lesson on the mutuality of the agreement.

resource101 108 Reviews 450 reads
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12 / 66

This was a great and informative thread. I have been hobbying for over four years and never did I ever even notice a cancellation policy on a provider's website--until now. I have never cancelled an appointment with a provider but had it happen to me many times. I now know that I will never make an appointment with a provider that has a cancellation policy like Alyson. Too many variables at play and the benefit/risk ration is all in the provider's favor as it almost always is. I think GaGambler has it right to make mostly same day appointments unless there is an understanding on a no charge cancellation fee due to unforeseen circumstances. You learn something new every day, apparently.

Jessicalyn See my TER Reviews 528 reads
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13 / 66

My policy is that I don't hold acknowledge or confirm an appointment until the client has paid a 50% deposit of the session fee online. It's billed as a consulting company for security and discretion. If a client informs me that that can't make it (it happens I understand) the only thing nonrefundable is the money they have already sent to me. After that they're free to reschedule as long as they pay the deposit again. I think this is reasonable and it helps make sure you don't have to deal with complicated and ugly situations like this. I still get some guys who are scared to use their credit card despite my assurances but I tell them to just buy a visa gift card. I TOTALLY understand that things come up that's why I just make sure my expenses are covered and then have no problem with rescheduling. In some cases where the client really did have a tough situation as long as they rescheduled and paid the next deposit I would return any money that I didn't use towards the hotel to their account.  

Also, if I EVER have to cancel and I've received a deposit I always ask if they want to reschedule or would rather I refunded them entirely.      


-- Modified on 11/5/2015 10:46:49 AM

WICardinalfan 429 reads
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14 / 66

Take a page out of the airlines....you want to check a bag, $35 please....you want a snack....$10 please.....you want to cancel because you are sick....you are screwed.

I have had to cancel do to flight delays/cancellations....and the occasional cold.  I am very transparent with any provider I have an appointment with when I am flying into a city.

And speaking of lost money.....how much money would a provider loose if I gave her the flu and which knocked her out for a week.  Think about it

Bob.Sugar 478 reads
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15 / 66

I guess you want some moron to use a credit card to pay you for illegal services in advance.

Yeah...very discrete.
Posted By: Jessicalyn
My policy is that I don't hold acknowledge or confirm an appointment until the client has paid a 50% deposit of the session fee online. It's billed as a consulting company for security and discretion. If a client informs me that that can't make it (it happens I understand) the only thing nonrefundable is the money they have already sent to me. After that they're free to reschedule as long as they pay the deposit again. I think this is reasonable and it helps make sure you don't have to deal with complicated and ugly situations like this. I still get some guys who are scared to use their credit card despite my assurances but I tell them to just buy a visa gift card. I TOTALLY understand that things come up that's why I just make sure my expenses are covered and then have no problem with rescheduling. In some cases where the client really did have a tough situation as long as they rescheduled and paid the next deposit I would return any money that I didn't use towards the hotel to their account.  
   
 Also, if I EVER have to cancel and I've received a deposit I always ask if they want to reschedule or would rather I refunded them entirely.      
 

-- Modified on 11/5/2015 10:46:49 AM

GaGambler 526 reads
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16 / 66

That was the sound of a hundred guys putting you on their MUST MISS list. You have just lost every bit of good will you might have earned with yesterday's threAD

It's not that you are young, it's not that you are new, it's not any of those things that are keeping guys from seeing you, It's YOU!!!

so the only thing nonrefundable is EVERYTHING he has sent you. Are you on drugs? Good luck with that practice

PPTPT 84 Reviews 452 reads
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17 / 66

Posted By: jaydalee
Have a cancellation policy on her P411 ad and/or website?  
 Some providers do have a cancellation policy in place for 24-48hrs before appt time.  
 
I just went back and looked at both her P411 profile and web page.  I cannot find any reference to a cancellation policy.
Posted By: jaydalee

 Was it possible to book another day or was that your only day of opportunity to have some fun?  
 
Unfortunately is was my only opportunity to book with this provider due to the short length of her visit here.

PPTPT 84 Reviews 404 reads
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18 / 66

Posted By: lily.adele
but it's a provider's choice, and if has worked for her than so be it!  
   
 I'm sure you've a list of others you'd enjoy just as much :)
I had 2 choices:  One of my ATFs was also visiting at the same time.  ATF, or find a new ATF?  I thought I'd try to find a new ATF.

After I hung up on this assistant I promptly dialled the ATF and proceeded to have a rockin' good time later that day at a time I knew I could keep!

PPTPT 84 Reviews 361 reads
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20 / 66

Posted By: anotherdamnalias
I sorry that whole charging me to cancel 24 hours out is BSC, I can understand if it's 2-4 hours out and you have procured a room, fixed your hair and makeup etc... I totally get that and if you can actually get paid for it, Kudos..
I totally agree on the 2-4 hour thing.

What kills me about this is this provider *wasn't in town yet*!!!  The offered appointments were for right after check in, 2 or 3 PM.  Even if it wasn't for the Chicago traffic, I probably would have declined.  I've been burned by this before - make an appointment for that time, then get there, call only to be told "She just got to her room and needs 30/45/60 minutes to get ready."  

I guess for some it's a one-way street.

anotherdamnalias 363 reads
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22 / 66

Bullshit...

They take your credit card to hold you a spot on the list. You are seriously out of touch with reality and need to find yourself a new doctor as well.

Newto1000 347 reads
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24 / 66

Just like they pay income tax on all their earnings.  When they start paying tax on ALL their income they can start bitchin about cancellations.    

Posted By: anotherdamnalias
Bullshit...  
   
 They take your credit card to hold you a spot on the list. You are seriously out of touch with reality and need to find yourself a new doctor as well.

Jessicalyn See my TER Reviews 450 reads
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25 / 66

I've actually never had much of an issue with it. I usually only spend about 100-200 dollars of the money so returning the rest is pretty simple. Taking credit can be a very convenient way of doing business and one that makes the date way more authentic. Most of my dates enjoy the convenience. It's not perfect but idk if you guys realize how many flakes there are out there. I would love to know of any other ideas though that would mitigate some of the risk of a last minute cancellation though!

sasha2cute See my TER Reviews 406 reads
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26 / 66

U seem to be doing the right thing. Some people will like it. Some won't. Some people will put up with it for the opportunity to meet you, and some won't. I think of myself as very easy going and relaxed in my policies. I do draw the line at some point, but I'm sure some people would appreciate if I outlined more specifically my policies. But even with me being relaxed. I get the usual douche bags and time wasters (part of the business, I'm no even complaining). So we all do what suits us best. I personally don't bother with cancelation fees or whatever. Just too much hassle to chase after some jerk. I just simply go and list them as a time waster if I truly believe he was just out there to waste my time. Case in point: people will never be fully happy with how you present yourself and your expectations. So you might as well do whatever the hell you want 😊️.  

If it works for you and you get from the hobby what you expect. Who is anybody to tell you that you fucked up or that you're too stiff Etc...The one thing I did find annoying was that your pics are behind a password wall. Bleh.... That would discourage me as a potential customer right away from seein you. If you're concerned about people recognizing you, take new pics and have them blurred. Or blur ur existing ones. But playing "go find my password here, then go there and enter it, then click here etc..." Now that's too much work. 😜️  

-- Modified on 11/5/2015 3:43:35 PM

Jessicalyn See my TER Reviews 422 reads
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27 / 66

Thanks! I know what you mean about the pictures. I only use a mask in my pictures because I love having the emotions of the eyes come through in a good shot. However, I will start blurring some and putting a password on the rest so that more people can see my pictures because I've gotten a lot of flak for this. I'm definitely appreciative of all the feedback I've gotten on here... even the people who don't say it very nicely lol. It helps me discover new and better ways to do this!

PPTPT 84 Reviews 406 reads
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28 / 66

Posted By: AlysonParker
 
 I used to be more flexible with my policy until this summer when someone emailed to cancel a few hours before we were to meet, claiming his mother was in the hospital and not likely to make it. I ate the out of pocket expense I'd already spent and of course wasn't expecting the fee. Imagine my surprise when he did make it in and in the context of a larger story told me his mother died in 2001. Never again.  
 
In regards to this I absolutely agree, a last minute cancel then the shit stream that followed from the client would piss me off as well.

But here's the difference - I didn't cancel last minute, I cancelled *over* 24 hours prior to my appointment.  This provider was touring, so she already had the incall booked, so she wasn't booking a room just for "not so little" ol' me.  On top of that, there is no cancellation policy listed in this provider's P411 profile or on her personal website.

I guess I'm trying to figure out what expense she had to eat solely because of me?  Yes, she could be out the income for the one cancelled appointment, but I'm guessing with the notice I gave she could easily have recovered that by bookingb another appointment at that time.

Jessicalyn See my TER Reviews 422 reads
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29 / 66

For them to say they'll never see you again. Definitely glad you got to reschedule and have a good time! It's a tough balance though (as some of the blowback from my previous post proves). On our end flakes and cancellations can mean you can't even make any money. But on the other hand many clients don't want to feel overly punished for a mistake. The trick is trying to find just the right policy that makes sense for you and your dates but it's tough. Also, on both sides a little understanding goes a long way... after all most of us are just here to have some fun!

Durhamdrew 19 Reviews 434 reads
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30 / 66

Yup, speaking of "morons"...I read, "I still get some guys who are scared to use their credit card despite my assurances but I tell them to just buy a visa gift card."  

Guess that line was invisible ...
 
Posted By: Bob.Sugar
I guess you want some moron to use a credit card to pay you for illegal services in advance.  
   
 Yeah...very discrete.  
   
Posted By: Jessicalyn
My policy is that I don't hold acknowledge or confirm an appointment until the client has paid a 50% deposit of the session fee online. It's billed as a consulting company for security and discretion. If a client informs me that that can't make it (it happens I understand) the only thing nonrefundable is the money they have already sent to me. After that they're free to reschedule as long as they pay the deposit again. I think this is reasonable and it helps make sure you don't have to deal with complicated and ugly situations like this. I still get some guys who are scared to use their credit card despite my assurances but I tell them to just buy a visa gift card. I TOTALLY understand that things come up that's why I just make sure my expenses are covered and then have no problem with rescheduling. In some cases where the client really did have a tough situation as long as they rescheduled and paid the next deposit I would return any money that I didn't use towards the hotel to their account.    
     
  Also, if I EVER have to cancel and I've received a deposit I always ask if they want to reschedule or would rather I refunded them entirely.        
   
   
 -- Modified on 11/5/2015 10:46:49 AM

Demcc3 27 Reviews 296 reads
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31 / 66

I've had this happen too, twice, by two different providers.  One texted me a few hours later, apologizing and offereing me a raincheck.  I had seen her prior to that but the idea of a raincheck was bullshit.  The other provider contacted me the following afternoon offering to make it up to me with a car date.  I was thinking to myself " ok, a freebie"  What a fool I was to think that!  She said it would be $150!  (Her regular 60 min is $200)  No, I didn't see her again!

 
D.

anotherdamnalias 236 reads
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32 / 66

Better service to your clients my ass...It gives you an inflated ego, not a better service for clients. A policy that you cannot enforce is IMO a scare tactic for cronic flakes. Remember you can charge what ever you like, thats your body your business, but the market will only bear so much bounty for you.

Stressed and cranky ? Welcome to the world of business, it's not all birds and flowers and orgasms for evryone all day.

You discounted sessions when you had to cancel  GREAT..Did you give them 2 for 1? 50% off? That would be fair according to YOUR policy if it was within the 48 hour window only.

So a guy lied and told you his dead mother was in the hospital on her death bed? I guess technically at some point she probably was. I know several providers who have had at least 5 grandmothers and 6 mothers pass away. Guess what? I won't spend my money or time with them either. People are full of shit, they play on the human desire to be kind, thats life dear take off the rose colored glasses and see it the way it really is

anotherdamnalias 282 reads
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33 / 66

Honestly I couldn't care less how many report their full income, I don't. I don't judge people based on their chosen line of work, tax bracket, or skin color for that matter. I judge them on whether or not they are full of shit, and I rate them according to services rendered.

Larissa_Sweets See my TER Reviews 376 reads
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34 / 66

I'm so sorry that happened to you but you know what in hindsight would you want to see someone that doesn't even give a second chance WITH notice. Most providers charge a late fee or a cancellation fee. I think she went overboard with that one.  

Best of Luck

BernardShakey 286 reads
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35 / 66

So how do you collect the 50%? Do you collect this deposit on each and every date? If so how? If so, is that why you're always on the boards? Just curious.

BernardShakey 309 reads
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36 / 66

you have no idea what you're talking about.

ptfun61 37 Reviews 459 reads
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37 / 66

you'll have plenty of business, and you'll enjoy it a lot more.  

Like everything we discuss, there's no one right way. In my view, cancellations are an understandable hazard of the hobby. I've had to cancel, I've had prospective companions cancel...it can be unavoidable. So don't be a doormat about it, but deal with it positively.  

It kind of goes back to the travel rate conversation....how "all about business" do you want to project? Charge and protect your time like a lawyer if you want to, it's your prerogative and there are plenty of guys that don't care about that...or don't know the difference.  

Deposits and Cancellation Policies ain't honey....there are many fun, respectful, repeating client out there who smell "all business" and won't go near it. Uh...Yo! To each their own.

-- Modified on 11/5/2015 4:24:24 PM

MatureGFE See my TER Reviews 397 reads
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earthshined 326 reads
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41 / 66

all of this info on her site you can choose to not give her your business or take the risk.  

That way she get clients who are ok with it and you find someone who doesnt have the same requirements.

skarphedin 368 reads
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42 / 66

You sound like a stereotypical Libertarian Capitalist droning on about The Efficiency of the Market and Rational Actors with Perfect Information.  

The way you talk about your business has nothing in common with the messy real world of actual business.  

It is like a teenage daydream about the future.

tiresias 259 reads
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43 / 66

Alyson - totally reasonable policy. I always book at the last minute for the reasons you note.  So sometimes I cannot see someone but from one professional to another, that's the cost of doing business.

EmmaBlairDC See my TER Reviews 376 reads
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44 / 66

I totally understand wanting deposits in order to protect against cancellations, especially if a girl is on tour. And it's true that other businesses do the same thing with not refunding deposits - hotels, airlines etc.  

But I don't think of myself as a business like these. They are impersonal and serve massive numbers of people, so it doesn't matter if they piss off one or two with a lost deposit.  

I see what I do as more like therapy and my therapist will always work with me on cancelled appointments as long as I'm not doing it over and over. We're building relationships with a smaller number of clients so the relationship is really important. Plus, the guys you want to see are going to have crazy jobs where things happen and they have to fly out last minute, or go to a meeting, speak at a conference etc. In my experience when a guy wants to see you he WANTS to see you, so only something dire will make him cancel, and if you let him he'll reschedule and you'll have a great time.  

Imo and no offense to anyone but cancellation warnings are off-putting. I'd rather have someone make a tentative advance appointment than write me on the day of and then I have to try to screen him and get ready in an hour. Just my preference.

Shaunna See my TER Reviews 423 reads
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45 / 66

I will probably get bashed also, but i have recently added a cancellation policy when i am touring.

I visit LA sometimes 3/4 times a year, this visit i have to say was a complete pain in the arse when it came down to clients cancelling, even some of my regulars.

I do not see 3/4 clients a day, i am low volume, that's how i like it, but i had 6 cancellations, 2 rescheduled and 4 of these were NCNS, nothing, nada, not a god damn word from them.  

They were all booked in advance, i screened them well, i took time out to keep them up to date and emailed back and forth with them, then on the day nothing from them, two of these dates were a 2 hour date and a 3 hour date.

Now are you really going to tell me that i should just take this on the chin, that i should take the loss and be ok with it?

Hell no, the few times i have had to cancel i have added on extra time.

Although my policy does state that a cancellation is only due if another date is not made within a 3 month period when i return.

Most guy's are really apologetic when they have to cancel, some are not, it's these clients that are a complete waste of our time and who do not respect our time.

I have huge outgoings when i tour, the flights, taxi's, taxes, hotels etc, it's not fair when some clients cancel or NCNS, i have even extended my stay to acommodate a date request without asking for a deposit.

And i love my job, i am super friendly and accomodating when a client does have to re schedule, but an email saying on the day of the date, 'can't make it' and nothing else is just plain rude and the NCNS, i have no words.

My cancellation policy is for these guys, not the clients who are respectful and legitimate in their cancellation.

S

Cheetara 294 reads
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47 / 66

Because most of us like to screen our clients and not just take anyone that contacts us to fill a spot by someone who cancels last minute. At least with a cancellation policy in place you can try to get back the fee of the hotel that you paid for and some other expenses you may have put out.  

A lot of providers use discount hotel sites to book hotels, so NO you cannot get a refund to all of you hobbyists saying otherwise. We try to be just as economically savvy as the next person, especially when touring and staying in a hotel for multiple nights. We don't all spend our money on Louboutin's.  

When you book a provider, read the reviews and they should state whether or not they are flakes. If she does, you didn't SPEND your money yet and you have recourse in reviews and board posts. What do we have after we have spent our money? Nothing, so save it.  

You have no idea how many flakes we get, a cancellation policy helps keep them at bay. Especially for the providers who only see one or two clients a day, yes some only see that many.  

It's so funny how all of you are giving her hell and saying she is self absorbed but you should really reread some of your own posts. The delusion that you have is really sad. THIS IS A BUSINESS, a fun one but a business just the same, sorry to burst your sensitive little bubbles.

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USGrantlover 225 Reviews 330 reads
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Escorts who preach "quality" and "you get what you pay for" and demand deposits for cancellations (IN GENERAL) typically use those types of discount bookings? I don't doubt it but what happens when the dog gets sick or you have excessive cancellations? I'm a firm believer in one gets what one pays for. It's a good policy to try to follow. Don't most ladies have MBA's and can figure this out easily? Think of all the flexibility you're losing much less free rooms and upgrades you're missing out on. Lol.

Cheetara 226 reads
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USGrantlover 225 Reviews 289 reads
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I'd use an alias too. At least someone here appears to have their GED. Maybe.

skarphedin 292 reads
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No one is saying you can't run your business the way you want. No one is saying you can't try and minimize your exposure to economic loss. People are critical of this particular method. And have been very specific as to why.  

And I am critical of the attitude put forward in the defense of that policy. And I have been specific as to why.  

And really, no one is saying that you should not do it if you can get away with it. They are saying that preaching about the reasonableness and the justification of it is annoying and shows a lack of appreciation for the client and how business works in every other arena.

skarphedin 437 reads
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People have been critical of the specific policies that were related by the OP and another poster. I have never read anyone here argue that if a meeting required the escort to incur expenses in advance of a date, that the escort was unreasonable for requesting that money upfront. Quite the contrary actually.  

For example, if an escort had to fly to a city to meet with a particular client. Or if the client requested a unique location that could only be used for that date. etc...

The issue here is not that. It is whether or not the burden of a cancellation in the course of regular business should be born by the client or provider. In almost every other area the cost is born by the provider of the service. Even in industries that have high cancellation rates. The burden is on the provider of services to adjust their business model in other ways to account for the cancellation rate.

WCedie See my TER Reviews 245 reads
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is even more of a loss. I know when I tour, appts. are limited - time is very valuable. Even a 24 hr. cancellation can completely throw finances

Andthenshesaid 400 reads
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24 hours is more than enough time, that policy is a bit overboard and this assistant and provider will quickly find themselves having no clients if they keep that up.  

We get it, you hate to lose on money. It took work, however sometimes things happen. I've had enough stuff like that happen at the worst time. I know of a company that if they cancel with less than 4 hours notice, they automatically ban them, block their phone, and email unless they are paying the donation.  

I have seen wayyyyyyy too many times where a client will cancel and then I get a reference check from another provider for him, or they cancel with some excuse and then later I see them posting about a different provider they saw that SAME day, or they write a review etc.

WCedie See my TER Reviews 298 reads
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If someone doesn't like your cancellation policy, they don't have to book with you - period

anotherdamnalias 431 reads
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I'm not gonna bash you for your policy Shauna, you have a legitimate right to be put off with cancellations, you are coming from another country and are expecting a return on your investment for travel expenses. This is assuming you have NO other business reasons to travel to LA.

Maybe a suggestion would be to book more appointments with the odds being that 50% are going to cancel or NCNS, you know where your break even point is so it shouldn't be hard to calculate based on previous visits.

Shaunna See my TER Reviews 353 reads
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Thank you and no i do not have other business reasons to travel.

If i book more dates then it puts me at a level i am not comfortable with, between a cock and and hard place hahahah, love the pun :-p

If i take 3/4 appointments a day thinking at least two will cancel then i'm shooting myself in the foot, because if non of them cancel then i am pushing myself to a level i do not wish to be at.

If any of you know me then you will know how much i love *ock, but mentally and emotionally i am not cut out to be high volume.

Intimacy and connection are important to me, i can't do that if i'm seeing 3/4 clients a day, it would exhaust me :-

Shaunna See my TER Reviews 466 reads
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The burden is with me, i agree to a point, but the only way of me not losing money whilst touring is to see 3/4 clients a day.

I can not do this, this is not my buisness model, that is why i chose to have a cancellation policy when touring.  Obviously i can not enforce it, but any decent client will know the expenses i will have incurred and be happy to pay it or reschedule on my next visit.

You on the other hand need to put me over your knee and spank me :-)

Fancy8888 See my TER Reviews 425 reads
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Common courtesy cancellation.Escorts loses business cancellation

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AlisonWonderland See my TER Reviews 250 reads
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Yes! I only really trust prearranged appointments if they're from people traveling from out of town, or repeat clients. I strongly prefer same day appointments from new clients. Life does get in the way. Events are unpredictable, estimating time is difficult, and if I had the time free to book a same day appointment, then I most likely wouldn't be losing out on anything in the off chance the client isn't able to make it.

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Before I entered Politics, I Was a Sales Rep for a well known consumer product. I had a 90 per cent retention rate.  90 per cent of the time, my clients accepted when I requested an appointment, and 98 per cent of the time I sealed the deal on appointments.  I even had great luck on cold calls and prospecting!

I also periodically endured last minute cancellations,  most were considerate, but a few times I encountered inconsiderate assholes, who did not respect my time, nor appreciated the value of the services I offered them, not to mention Travel costs!
My point;  I built a wall, then got over it!  I never called on the jerks again, and never looked back!  It's funny but true;  The professional buyers with great open to purchase options never made a fuss or called attention to themselves.  It's the one's who could not purchase, those are the people who never shut up!

Last point;  I am making no judgements on the providers or hobbyists, who have vehemently expressed their points of view.  As adults, we ultimately have to make our decisions, based on our comfort levels, and what we perceive is fair play!
Posted By: GaGambler
Maybe that would impart the same lesson?  
   
 
   
 Obviously you are presenting the hooker POV and I am presenting the John POV. There's plenty of blame to go around. Forget hookers and johns, some "people" are just inconsiderate of other peoples time. I don't see that changing any time soon.

TheGovernor 142 Reviews 281 reads
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It works both ways....as I have previously posted, before I occupied the Governors Mansion, I had a 9-5 job as a Sales Rep.   A few times I had last minute cancellations, a few of them from inconsiderate assholes.  Just never wasted time with them afterwards.  And it is true, Zebras don't lose their stripes!  Those who treated me inconsiderately treated other reps in the same fashion.  It did not take long for the word to get out.  Also I never blew a client off who had a small budget, in order to see a client who had unlimited funds.....that would have come around eventually.  Karma can be a double-edged sword

PPTPT 84 Reviews 381 reads
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Like I mentioned in a previous post, I was able to see one of my ATFs later the same day at a time convenient for me!

Plenty of providers out there for the clients, and plenty of clients for the providers I'm sure.

Or we all wouldn't be here, would we...?

londonheather 348 reads
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Stay clear of cynical people she obs doesn't have screening or accepts amy call to be let down so often.

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Posted By: AlysonParker
Yep, really.  
   
 My doctor's office charges the cost of the office visit, just like I charge for the cost of the session.  
   
 Every hotel charges you for, at minimum, a night's stay if you cancel within 24 hours or less of your reservation. It's why they take your credit card to hold the room when you make a reservation.
I travel for business, and the rule that I commonly encounter is that you must cancel by 6:00 pm of the day you are scheduled to arrive to avoid any charges. If you use a third party service of some kind, it's usually different.

I just had an escort cancel an incall appointment yesterday 1 hour and 20 minutes before it was scheduled to start. Her landlord dropped by on short notice to do work, which I guess is a pretty good reason (though if she could tell me, a paying customer, not to show up, why couldn't she have done the same with the landlord?), but all I got for the disappointment, inconvenience, and actual expense of wasting a half vacation day was a texted "sorry." Her policy, should someone cancel on her the day of the appt., is that the full fee for the missed session is owed at the next session. She doesn't mention exceptions of any kind, such as for illness or unforeseen episodes such as she encountered, though for all I know in practice she may allow for such exceptions. The same as GoGambler, I'd never paid much attention to cancellation policies before, but now they are definitely going to play a more important part in my selection process. I'm totally sympathetic to escorts trying to recoup at least some loss if the cancellation is not "for cause," if for no better reason than to discourage the practice, but I wouldn't myself cancel without a very good reason and don't want to be in the situation of being forced to pay for a missed session because others out there don't exercise the same courtesy.

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