I know this topic has been discussed before, but I must express my dissapointment/displeasure anytime I have seen a providor in the past that does not kiss. I wonder, if one pays for an overnighter with one of these providors, is there no kissing allowed then too?

This no kissing BS has pretty much forced me to lose interest in the hobby. I can just as easily wack my wee-wee using my left hand watching Porn, or have sex with my wife, however, I can not kiss or cuddle with myself and am sick of kissing my wife, if you catch my point. I go to a providor to be romanced and cuddled and to "taste"(for lack of a better word) a different woman. This no kissing BS makes a session antiseptic at best, and leaves me feeling as though I just wasted my money! I do not think I can re enter this hobby until I find some providors that allow kissing, and don't charge ridiculous rates, which is virtually impossible to find.

I know I am going to get killed here, but I want my opinion to be known.

Each provider is entitled to her own rules. So instead of being unhappy with the ones who do not kiss, just find the ones who do.

TER is here to help. When I do a search with criteria "kisses with tongue" for NY where you seem to live, I find something like 343 ladies who can accomodate you. If you are not a VIP member I suggest you purchase a membership in a hurry and start digging.

Happy hunting

Some providers kiss, some without tongue only, and other don't.  I think the key is to find one that does and stick with her.  My favorite provider is a great kisser and I enjoy that part of our time together very much.  I would not see a provider a second time if she didn't provide DFK.  And many times I think the kissing thing is a true example of YMMV

I have got to say that 90% of all experienced providers I have seen all kiss and with toungue. The ones that dont are the really young ones that are inexperienced and really dont care about the encounter. -Joel

...without non-stop (well, *almost* non-stop) DFK.  I have left appointments before where the guy didn't want to have any kissing.  I can't help it; my mouth goes where it wills.  You're very right when it comes to the "antiseptic" feeling; YUCK!  I may as well be having a gyno exam.

BJ, Palm Beach, Florida
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This is clearly an example of why one should pay for the VIP membership (no, I don't work for TER) or if you can post enough reviews, do it that way.  I've found that even if the reviews are pure fiction (and mine certainly are) they have a funny way of mirroring fact (imagine that).  I won't see an SP w/o a review because I like to know what I'm fictionally getting into.

Some girls like the tongue to be like a snake's, darting, flicking, testing but not diggin' for tonsil meat.  Others are lookin' to steal the gold out of your cavities.

Bottom line is you need to be very clear with what you like, and then do a search to find it.  This site is a tremendous tool for doing just that.  If you choose to willfully disregard the resource available to you here, I would say that you're doing yourself a dis-service.

HPG

I can't imagine not kissing.... DFK is one of the best parts!  It's also one of the most intimate things that you can do.  Lots of girls I've known in the past say that it's too personal, but I wouldn't have the experience without the DFK... I'm such a passionate and romantic person.  I love to cuddle, kiss, massage... I think that's what true GFE is... and a TRUE no-rush session!!!  

I just had the opposite experience the other day.... a man came to see me and didn't kiss with tongue... He left happy.  I was frustrated.  There just wasn't a connection.

Long Passionate Kisses....
Jaclyn

While this may be true in a provider's profile, it doesn't mean she does it with everybody. Perhaps the chemistry is not the same and she doesn't want to do something so contrived. I had seen someone who was swallowing me alive and I tried to slow him down, but he wouldn't!  Maybe he was inexperienced, but still it kind of grossed me out and he is probably wondering why I wasn't into kissing him.  Guys, before you necessarily blame the provider, try to also be as clean and respectful as possible.  We're only human ya know, and I don't know one woman that would have enjoyed being slobbered all over like I was!

She will take your dick in her mouth but won't kiss,let alone DFK.  How hypocritical.

I hate to throw cold water on the subject, but a lot of providers and hobbyists don't kiss with tongue for health reasons.  I know it can be a turn off for either party that wants to dfk, but this is still a fun experience that some of us want to walk away from with our health intact.

It has lots of onion.  I try to keep to gentle foods before dates.  I know I would not be told if I had bad breath--I just wouldn't get as much kissing.  I also OD on breath mints to add more protection.
Recently I saw a highly reviewed provider (HRP?) for the first time, and contrary to her reviews, she hardly kissed at all. Tiny pecks was all.  However, I had the suspicion that she had a cold and was packed full of Sudafed.  Sure enough, three days later I had a raging cold.

It is not hypocritical, it is a matter of choice...just like you "choose" to see a thin provider or a blonde or a brunette we decide what we want to do  and with who...This is a very personal business, there are no "set in stone" rules. It seems that you equate higher prices with an attitude of anything goes...this sense of entitlement is a false one and will affect the experience you will have with any provider....

The whole "no kissing" thing started when "Pretty Woman" (the movie) came out and the main character got into this long diatribe about not kissing clients.

Before that movie, I never had a problem with DFK as a client.  After it came out, almost half of the providers started coming up with this new policy.

As far as I am concerned, the provider I see loves to DFK and that is great for me.  When I choose to indulge elsewhere, DFK is a requirement, not an option.

Nothing wrong with a provider not wanting to do it, just not my preference.

I really prefer no mouth kising. Nibbling the cheeks neck ears and anywhere else is a lovely thing. mmmmmm just thinking about it mmmmmm

I totally agree with Magiost. I just won't see a lady unless the reviews state that she will DFK. Of course I do make sure that I have showered and gargled before the visit. The search engine in TER will give you the info that you need. Don't trust all of the profiles, however, but read the reviews.

Reear SalasaGuy, next time lay off the salsa beforehand...

Hey Clulesso, next time lay off of the chemistry beforehand, your mind is turning to mush...


"Lay off the Salsa beforehand....Bad Breath...Not Clean"

idiot...

I always suspected the no kiss rule started with that damn movie,pretty woman.Call me old fashion, but kissing always comes before sex and sex without kissing is ridiculous, as far as I'm concerned.But having said that I can empathize with the ladies.I can imagine what alot of these guys call kissing is more like a throat culture.

TAXDOG is on the money.  DFK is my single most important requiremnet as well.  Of my 48 reviewed women, I have not been disappointed (in terms of providing the service, not quality)in 46 of them.  Batting .958 in any league is awesome.  

If you are a New Yorker, PM me and I can give you some good suggestions in this area.  Also in Florida.

F.