So recently I met with a provider at an agency who struck up some confusing conversational tone after we took a breather. She starts telling me how we have this great connection and saying that it makes this much more difficult, I was sort of in my own head at that moment not really paying 100% attention— but still listening. Though what instantly grabbed my full attention was she seemed like pretty close to crying, although she stopped short of that (just a tear or two). After that she seemed to have picked herself up from that moment, but still continued the same sort of chatter about chemistry and connection.

I’ll probably see her again because I enjoyed my time, but I wonder why she chose to speak like that. It made things kinda awkward but I reciprocated her compliments back and said I had a good time. I understand that people fake orgasms, and some may view themselves as an actor putting on a GFE. Tbh i was kinda worried something else was up because I’ve never experienced the high emotions during a rendezvous with an escort. I’ll probably never reach any conclusion on this, but I felt this was worth having my first post about.

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It is impossible to tell what she may have been going through in the moment, but maybe it was something as simple as she was having a bad day or maybe just a bad moment. It happens. Providers are human too and this business can sometimes be emotional. Since you said you enjoyed your time with her, I would def see her again. Nothing overly concerning about what you are saying, to me at least. Good luck with her!

Yeah probably. I didn’t really think it was something I did personally bc she said I should come and see her again after our session, even asking me if I knew when I’d return. Before our session also, she misheard something I said to her (she is Spanish speaking; I only speak english). I had said that I was busy last weekend so I wasn’t able to visit but she thought I said that I had seen a different girl at this agency last weekend. She actually got pressed for a second, before I repeated myself and she understood what I said.

Well stated.   I had a situation happen where during my first session with a provider, during the massage "phase" she started going on and on about how much she made annually, where she lived, and info about her pets, etc.  During the massage, I didn't say anything nor did I ask any questions.  At the time, I thought it was odd for her to tell me all this, but later on, I figure she felt comfortable with me and wanted to share with me.  

I’ve had situations where it seems genuine. I’ve learned over the years some of these ladies are master manipulators to garner more money from you. So I always keep my guard up and limit commenting on what they are saying. It’s just business.

Yeah I hear y’a. But honestly things were going very very well before she switched the mood of things from sensual fun to whatever I can’t even describe the tonality of it. Though who knows.

Actually was the second meeting for what it’s worth but even that doesn’t really change things too much. Honestly I’d probably just move on normally if I had this kind of encounter (I’m usually a very cautious person), but I’m unsure only because outside of that one moment it was a rather awesome time.

True. Sometimes it goes both ways since I’m a younger client and 90% of the time my anxiety is through the roof meeting ppl I’m not acquainted with.

Just a thought based on what you have shared. You mentioned that she is working at an agency, you are both relatively young, that she said the connection “makes it difficult “, and that she seemed sad…
I’ve known young women working for agencies and it can be especially tough on them. Sometimes it is necessary to put up certain barriers or compartmentalize this work in a certain way to protect themselves emotionally.  They resist feelings because it’s easier to separate the emotions from the work. This is fine especially when the clients aren’t their type, or are out of their age range, etc. But if someone comes along that they actually feel attracted to, someone they might see themselves as dating in real life, that can be confusing and produce those sad awkward moments.  Especially if she is at all embarrassed or uncomfortable with being a sex worker.  I’ve seen this scenario before, it might apply here.  

Of course it could just be a bad day, or she was worried about a personal issue, or who knows?  Lol. Definitely interested in hearing about your next encounter.

Since you're young, you will be a target in this biz if you are not careful.  The holy grail for providers is having regular customers, because it means a reliable income stream upon which they can base their financial planning. You can get pussy from EVERY provider, but you can't get a "connection" with every provider.  She is selling you on her connection with you so that you will want to come back again and again.  

 
We had a girl in LA about 5 years ago that got to 200 reviews in less than a year because she understood sales and marketing.  Her hustle was on the first date, at the end of the session, she would tell the customer that her connection to him was so strong she was having multiple orgasms, and would give them back $100 of the donation and thank them for giving her such pleasure.  Every guy she did this to became a regular weekly or bi-weekly customer, so that within a couple of months, she was booked solid every day a week in advance.  After I read four or five reviews about this, I decided to go see her.  At the end of the session, she didn't say anything, so I said, "didn't you forget something?"  She looked puzzled and said, "No, what?"  I said, "Aren't you going to give me some money back because I fucked you so good?"  She laughed out loud, and said, "In our first five minutes together, I knew you were too smart to fall for that."  You would be surprised at who some of the veterans were that fell for this and put it in their reviews.  It wasn't just the young guys being hustled.  She was very good at it.  So, there you have it.  Enjoy being a regular but recognize what is really going on.  It's a sales and marketing tool.    Lol

He just dislocated his shoulder patting himself on the back.

I just needed to read that myself. Taking notes.

Based on my own experiences with providers.  We all make our own choices.  I just really, really like pussy.  My comments about YOUR personal experiences are usually positive.  It's a good line though.  I will borrow it the next time you tell about one of your own positive experiences. Lol

just shameless. lol

And will freely admit I invented that line years ago to use on a former member here who sometimes referred to himself as Count DeMonay.

Thx for the insight. It makes sense. I believe in this particular persons case they were probably better off not taking that route because everything had been perfect up until that moment. Granted she could had also just been having a tough day.

I see what you’re saying. Definitely could be that— and honestly for some reason I feel like if an independent provider had said this, it would not had really been something I’d think about for too long. I have concerns about agencies and if I get any sense that anything unethical is happening I stay far away. But assuming everything is ok at this particular agency, it could be like you said just about the mental side of things and placing their emotions aside.

I'm from LA, and I don't recall a lady with 200 reviews, in less then a year giving back the 100 like you say. If she was a KGirl, then that could be possible on a first time visit but not sustainable long term and could be awkward on subsequent visits. The agency/bookers would freak out. Guys would figure, "She's great at 150, but ok at 250"
Non- KGirl getting 200 reviews is less then a year, and knocking off 100 on top of that, I just don't recall....refresh my memory. Maybe you're correct...it just eludes me now.

a Kgirl.  She was.  Here's a link to her profile with the review list.  

 
http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/megan-3234307105-304481

 
Over 200 reviews from July 2016 when she started until July 2017.  You understand that the $100 donation return was only on the first session for guys she thought she could manipulate with a little insincere flattery, right?  She admitted that  no one ever actually accepted the offer of $100 back, but the point was, they would be flattered into becoming regulars, and it worked, in spades.  

 
You should have a little more faith that in this biz, I know what I'm talking about.  Lol

Lmfaooo, interesting tactic

with Shameless?   I happen to know from our prior conversations that YOU have had your share of shameless experiences as well.  Pot, Kettle, Black.  I don't get you on irony very often.  Lol

A friendly, playful jab is how I was interpreting it.

cdl years ago had his sense of humor surgically removed.

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Two ways to look at it:

The innocent side:

Seems when she switches suddenly to sadness because the great chemistry she has with you is a void in her life that she is missing. She's not enjoying her job at times with other patrons, and wants a desirable and meaningful relationship that you represent in her moment of heightened emotion that quickly turns to grief. (It's as if she's going to lose out after you leave.) She's hit a low point in her life and can't contain herself, and falters by letting her guard down. This change puts you in an awkward position for dealing with her unexpected behavior.  You really like your time with her, but now she's tapped into pity that you were not prepared to deal with.

The manipulative side:

She knows what she's doing as she reads into your naivety where the draw is not just physical pleasure, but also an emotional appeal to comfort and protect her by desiring--all the more--to see her more often.

(Although, it could be a little of both.)

So what conclusion to draw from without reading too much into it. Look at it this way, another way:

What is human nature (as so much has been written about it). Three areas to take note:  

1. Insecurity
2. Envy
3. Narcissism

The above three are very real in people, and the sooner you become aware of them at play in all kinds of situations, the better prepared to deal with them. You read about it in the replies here, too, like the manipulator provider playing up to her patrons' great lover narcissism, then offering a discount to garner more business. Or, the masseuse, bragging about herself in how important she is to her client, who quietly puts up with her narcissism.  

Robert Greene who wrote his book "48 Laws of Power," which I have but haven't read through yet, but I did read his book the "Laws of Human Nature." In it, he talks about all the above three in history and his philosophy on how to handle these uncomfortable emotions in oneself and in others. If anything,  though, be aware. Not to say becoming a manipulator is the route to take, but knowing about it matters. Certainly, nobody wants to feel used and abused.  (This is not a plug for Greene, just saying there are experts out there on this subject.)  

However, not really knowing how strong your emotions are in the situation beyond what I read, if there's anything you've come across (it seems) is her insecurity. It's about her and how you factor in her life in that brief moment, and since you're the author, it's about you being confused by it. Could she also be envious in what others have that she doesn't have, like a significant other? Is she insecure you won't accept her as a girl friend because of her profession? (It's just speculation.) If she is young and works for an agency, then there's an inclination that she may be unhappy here prior to your meeting, instead of being a manipulator out to get more money. (People always seem to want more to living and are never satisfied in what they have. As far as mongering: More pussy, more heightened experiences that appeal to the ego; as far as providers: Potential relationships resulting in a good catch and/or easy to steady money without the effort.) In any case, her sadness can be genuine.

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Damn I enjoyed reading this response, I feel like you addressed both sides of the argument pretty objectively.

Reading your response also reminded me what kinda took me off guard when it actually happened. I monger ever so often, so I’ve yet to reach a stage where I can really fully disconnect myself and completely have my mind empty. Maybe no one can do that. But what I mean is I’m always fully aware it’s a service during encounters, my anxiety is running high, and thus even with a GFE type provider— I’m usually very distracted.

So while I’ll always respect the provider, as I did in this instance (as I scrambled to understand what she meant)— it is more damaging to the encounter than it is enchanting.  I’ll probably go see her again because she actually did provide the best experience I’ve had with a girl, and for me that meant coming close to actual relationships ive had. It would never work between us (culturally), even though we are both of similar age so I don’t really know whether I’d prefer that she was genuine or not with her emotions.

I had a provider give me money back once. Actually, I had already left and she called me on the phone to come back. Was worried I might have undperpaid her but when I got there she gave me back $100 because I had only stayed for an hour of the 1 1/2 hours I had booked.

In this case, I don't think it was a ploy to turn me into a regular. She was travelling at the time, had more reviews than anybody I had ever seen, and told me she was getting ready to retire and this was her last trip.  

Never saw her in the area again.  

So go figure.

Correct-a-mundo, CDL!

I've had women start crying while recounting a tale of woe. They usually stop when they realize it's not working!

Recently, this happened. When I didn't respond, she asked me to buy her an iPhone.

Thank the Lord this happens only rarely.