A bit more about my background. My Dad was also military and away a lot of time. We did not, nor could we, go with him on various assignments due to the times. It took me a while to figure out, but Mom had some special family friends (not family) which she would mostly see privately. When Dad was home and when he was not. Paid or not? I don't know, but probably. I never heard Dad and her arguing about her seeing friends, and such. lol
How many men here have married an escort? Or had a serious relationship (as a single man) with an escort? Pros? Cons? I am a couple days away from my 1 year wedding anniversary and 2.5 year relationship mark.
Pros, very little hangups about sex (usually). I have found that most of them are LESS demanding, both financially and emotionally than the typical women I have been with. I don't have to hide my "past" from a hooker. Most non hookers would freak the fuck out if I were ever to reveal I had been with literally thousands of women.
Cons, having dealt with lying, cheating men for their entire careers most hookers rightfully have some trust issues,
Personally I have found more pros than cons in dating hookers or ex hookers. There are many challenges to dating an active provider of course, ex providers have no more baggage than any other women IMHO.
Now I am not about to marry ANYONE, hooker or non hooker, but congrats to you on your upcoming anniversary. I hope you two still fuck like rabbits.
How do you handle the jealousy factor? I would just die every time my SO went out to have sex with another man. It would kill me inside. How did you cope/manage? Did she talk about the dates with you or was that a taboo subject? Same question for the OP or whomever else has dated/married a provider. That would be my only hesitancy in doing so. I am hoping you can respond in a civil manner as I am asking in a polite tone as I am truly curious.
If you would be jealous if you SO was a movie star and kissing and making out with another man, or a porn star having sex with another man while the cameras roll, then you probably don't have the temperament for dating hookers. For them, its a job, not personal.
I've explained this before, but I insist on a level playing field when dating a provider. If they are going to continue working (I would never ask them to quit, its not place anymore than if they did some other kind of work), then they most be okay with me seeing other working girls, as long as I pay for the session. In other words, as long as I'm paying for pussy and as long as she is getting paid for her pussy, we don't consider that cheating. Its just transactional sex. With that said, jealousy still invades the relationship in MOST cases, but its not my jealousy, its hers. She will find out I saw a girl she knows who is really smoking hot, and will become insecure and jealous. In that case, what else can you say, but . . . . next! Lol
Thats probably the best "equal playing field" you can get but its still not quite equal. You get to choose providers you are attracted to and for the most part, be catered to while she likely chooses who is a good client and willing to pay her rates if that. I'd think a true equal playing field would be allowing her to see men she is attracted to too...whether they are male providers or civilian men.
That's probably the best "equal playing field" you can get but it's still not quite equal. You get to choose providers you are attracted to and for the most part, be catered to while she likely chooses who is a good client and willing to pay her rates, if that. I'd think a true equal playing field would be allowing her to see men she is attracted to too...whether they are male providers or civilian men.
With men being more visually stimulated than the average woman is, the fact that this entire game is first and foremost a business arrangement with a financial incentive on the part of the provider, I doubt many providers are placing odds on a FANTASTICALLY great-looking guy showing up. Sure, everyone on the planet, either male or female, would prefer dealing with a pleasant-looking person, or an attractive person, or an amazingly attractive person. In this business, clients' fantasies and clients' libidos and clients' desire for sexual satisfaction are a large driver of almost every transaction, but for providers, it's a bottom line, a profit margin that satisfies. Providers, just like anyone else, have their own preferences for whom they find attractive or with whom they'd like to sleep, and their own sexual fantasies and desires, yet this particular business isn't primarily geared toward that. If it were, an even playing field would be women and men looking to fulfill and satisfy each other's Dream Girl and Prince Charming sexual appetites with no money changing hands. Instead, the men seek to get their sexual desires filled, and the women seek to get their wallets filled.
More than once when booking with a woman, I've wondered if she wasn't at least a little curious to know ahead of time what package would be dropped off at her door. On some occasions, I've given a written description of myself, it hasn't seemed to make any difference in whether or not she's see me because I'm agreeing to pay the agreed upon fee. After I've asked a woman all my questions about her, I've sometimes asked, "Is there anything you want to know about me?" It's never seemed to be a big deal either way to most escorts, they hardly ever ask anything.
Lastly, I'll admit that some or many men P4P because for whatever reason or reasons, some of is can't or don't get with women we'd like to be with due to something or some things about us. I'm neither obese, fat, portly, stout, deformed, diseased, scarred, etc., but at thesame time, I don't pull women based on movie star looks or Olympic athlete body. I'm one of those guys who appreciates the simplicity of P4P because of its "I have something that you want and you have something that I want, let's barter" system. I don't pretend she's with me for any other reason than I'm paying her, and during the session she pretends that she's with me for any reason other than the fact that I'm paying her, lol!
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Request a picture and body stats, that would be fair play. Then let the provider choose. But, she would have to come clean about her appearance and stats if they were off on the website, PS'd, gained or lost a few pounds!
an open relationship with no restrictions. What is the point of having ANY kind of commitment if there is nothing in place that makes your own relationship with a provider special. You are not describing an equal playing field. If the provider in a relationship wants to see anyone she wants, then I would able to see anyone I want as well, and in that case, what is the point of having a boyfriend at all? Most of the provider relationships I have in ended because the provider became jealous of the other providers I having sex with. Its never been the case that I was jealous of her customers. I know its just her business. Sooner or later I will pay for sex with someone they know personally, and that's when the jealousy starts to end the relationship.
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Are you for real or just trolling...LOL Gain some confidence dawg.. Chicks dig that.. No one likes a wuss..
To answer your question if I have the knowledge that she is fucking another man, it would turn me the fuck on.. Now if we are supposed to be in a monogamous relationship, and she starts acting in a strange manner, would it upset me? YES it would.. Would I get jealous, YES, I would. But with full disclosure, I wouldn't have a problem with that.. Fuck I might even ask to watch..
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Such a relationship would clearly be wrong for you. You might be okay with someone who left the biz. But clearly you are not going to be happy with someone still active in the biz. There are a million fish in the sea. Stick to those of whom you aren't allergic.
I have a low tolerance for stupidity, are you thinking that your own question was stupid? lol Well just for the record your question has been asked several times, but it's hardly a dumb question, especially if you have never dated a sex worker yourself and as you can see, most guys have never actually dated a sex worker.
Ok, back to your actual question, everyone is different in this regard. Some guys LOVE hearing about their wife/GF fucking other guys, just like some women (my present GF included) get off on their man fucking other women. Personally, I can simply get the difference between cheating and "work" AND sex does not necessarily mean actual intimacy. I would be very jealous if a woman I was involved with was actually "intimate" with other men, but simply having non emotional sex for money doesn't push that button for me. Other guys of course may disagree, but I can only speak for how I feel about the subject, and I don't claim to speak for all men.
I very rarely talk to any of my hooker GF's about her customers except in the most general of terms. I won't say that it is/was a taboo subject, just something I never wanted to hear about and every sex worker I have ever dated respected my wishes just like I in return have NEVER thrown her work back in her face no matter how big a fight we were having, all couples fight, but telling your GF "You're just a whore" in the heat of anger is something that you can't just walk back once things cool down. Some guys never learn that, and those guys should NEVER date a sex worker
As for whether or not YOU can date a sex worker, Only you can answer that question. If you would be one of those guys constantly obsessing about what your woman was doing with other guys, then the answer is a definitive NO. If not then its a definite "maybe" lol
But I do appreciate your sincere response. It is interesting that you distinguish "intimate sex" from "non emotional sex." I cant argue that with you, if that is how you feel, but to me, personally, I could not make that distinction, and therefore I don't think I could date an active in the business provider. I would want her all to my own. But to those that have, and can...viva la difference! Thank you again for your lengthy, quite interesting, and even semi-cordial post! Lol
Related concept: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna%E2%80%93whore_complex
"... this psychological complex is said to develop in men who see women as either saintly Madonnas or debased prostitutes. Men with this complex desire a sexual partner who has been degraded (the whore) while they cannot desire the respected partner (the Madonna). ... The term is also used popularly, if sometimes with subtly different meanings. ..."
But I do appreciate your sincere response. It is interesting that you distinguish "intimate sex" from "non emotional sex." I cant argue that with you, if that is how you feel, but to me, personally, I could not make that distinction, and therefore I don't think I could date an active in the business provider. I would want her all to my own. But to those that have, and can...viva la difference! Thank you again for your lengthy, quite interesting, and even semi-cordial post! Lol
People are always accusing me of "unnecessary rudeness" to which I respond that I am very rarely "unnecessarily" rude, most of my rudeness, which I do not deny, is almost always necessary and deserved. lol
And yes, I agree that If you can not personally make that distinction than please for your own good, do NOT even consider getting serious with an active provider. The heartache you will subject yourself to will wreck you if you let it.
People are always accusing me of "unnecessary rudeness" to which I respond that I am very rarely "unnecessarily" rude, most of my rudeness, which I do not deny, is almost always necessary and deserved. lol
Unnecessarily rude? You, nah, somewhat caustic and acerbic which I def find amusing at times. I've learned plenty over the years from reading your barbs. Many of them have kept me from shooting myself in the foot, believe me.
Love to do a couple of shots of some good Reposado someday with the old sage. I`d probably be done after the 4th one, lol
I was married to a civie before starting this hobby and remain married. However were circumstances different, their status as an active or ex sex worker would not be an impediment to any future relationship.
relationships with providers, I am an admitted serial boyfriend, but have not ever crossed the line into ANYTHING that might "feel permanent." (I have allergies - lol). I have been married a few times, and I know divorce is expensive, so I hate that, even though its always worth it. (I was also widowed once, but that was inexpensive, and I was not a person of interest because It was a stroke.) I can usually walk away from a hooker relationship by giving her a little relocation allowance and still remain friends afterward. Working girls are pretty intuitive. They know when its not working out and the end is near, so there is rarely a big scene when I tell them its over.
You've been married "a few times?" How many is "a few" - 3, 4, 5?
Whatever the number of times you claim you've been married, it's BULLSHIT. On 1/4/2017, you posted:
"I didn't get married until I was almost 30..."
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/ter-general-board-12/i-would-say-i-repeat-at-least-once-with------892195?frmSearch=1#892195
Seven months later, on 7/28/2017, you posted:
"I was a...bachelor...up until the age of 32 when I married..."
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/ter-general-board-12/when-i-was-a-----920778?frmSearch=1#920778
According to your own posts, you were only married once, at either age 30 or 32 - you're lying about that too. And your sole marriage ended when your wife died of a stroke, so your claim that you know "divorce is expensive" because of your personal experience with divorce is also BULLSHIT.
OK GaG - it's your turn to be "objective."
And let me remind you that I PROVED beyond any reasonable doubt that Inicky was either lying then or lying now and you refused to actually call him out as a liar. Instead you gave some limp wristed acknowledgement that Inicky "might" have either lied or gotten something wrong in his posts.
I OTOH am as good as my word. You also PROVED that CDL was lying, just like in Inicky's case it's impossible to have simply "made a mistake" about something like this. So I will do a hell of a lot better than you and agree that "at best" CDL was taking the "poetic license" he often admits to, which of course is simply another way to say he's lying.
Now THAT is how to be objective and honest. Maybe you should try it yourself some day.
Please keep in mind that CDL and I are actually friends, while you and Inicky have been at each other's throats for the better part of ten years and you still can't come right out and admit he was lying when my proof was every bit as irrefutable as yours. Yes, CDL lied in either the posts you dug up or the post he made today, just like Inicky either lied in the post I linked for you or in every subsequent post on the subject.
a little lie previously. I don't like to count my TWO marriages that ended in divorce and WERE expensive, so I have a tendency to ignore those when talking about my life. One lasted 3 weeks and the other lasted two months, mere blips on the radar of my life with women. Both times I was drunk in Vegas and regretted it the next day. I was 29. That was a bad year. Lol The only reason they lasted as long as they did was to work out a reasonable divorce settlement. I stopped getting drunk in Vegas after that. My REAL marriage was at age 32 and lasted 16 years until she died of a stroke. I see my stalker worked 21 days searching my posting history for his big "gotcha" moment. What a fucking loser with no life. Can he make himself look any smaller and petty? Lol
In LV you can start the annulment process the very next day, just as soon as you sober up in many cases. lol
As for your/our stalker, although we can disagree about custody, I agree about his lack of an actual life. I guess this is what we have to look forward to if our dicks ever stop working and instead of "getting pussy" we become one like our mutual stalker has become during all these year of posting on a fuck board without actually having done any fucking since the Obama years.
you could do that. At that time, I thought an annulment was only available if there had been no sex, and believe me, there WAS sex, a lot of it, but still not worth the final tab. Had I been that stupid in the last 10 years, it probably would have cost me even more because I have more now than I did then. I hired a California attorney who said he would take care of it and charged by the hour. Need I say more? Lol
I agree about our stalker. Bitter and impotent is no way to go out, but I think that's his destiny. My dad just went out with his boots on. That's the way to go. 95 years old and dropped dead on the volleyball court at his senior residence in the middle of a game. He beat Covid in January, so he was in pretty good shape. That beats going out like our stalker is likely to go . . . . . in a wet Depends. Lol
Ah, marriage. Also known as the Lawyer's Fair Employment and Retirement Act.
spit-my-coffee-all-over-my-keyboard moment. LMAO
MANY years ago, we are talking late 70's or early 80's at the latest when I was living in LV I got REALLY fucking drunk over the weekend (Yes I know that fact is not newsworthy), I missed work on Monday and came crawling into work on Tuesday morning only to find a half dozen wedding gifts waiting for me. One of my asshole buddies told everyone that I got married during my drunk weekend, fucking fucker.
Yes, I got drunk, but no, I NEVER got THAT fucking drunk. lol
have no doubts that a practical joke like that would have the desired effect. Lol
"...then I was an admitted playboy for the next nine years (until age 31). I finally met a woman that I could stay loyal to, and was married (age 32) without cheating or stepping out for 16 years until she passed from a sudden stroke."
8/10/2020 - http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/ter-general-board-12/when-i-was-in-my-20s-----971057?frmSearch=1#971057
CDL also said: "I'm not married, but I have been twice..."
10/21/20 - http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/ter-general-board-12/there-are-a-lot-of-married-guys-----974171?page=
CDL admitted he told a "little lie" because he omitted the two times he was married when he was 29. But why didn't he mention being married at a very young age - he posted about it twice less than a year ago? How does he explain "forgetting" his marriage and subsequent divorce at age 22? I'll tell you how - this is what he said when caught in a lie for the third time in the same thread: "Well, I'm 62 and . . . .my memory is not what it used to be."
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/k-girl-113/well-im-62-and-----25851?page=
Yeah, that's the ticket GaG. CDL will claim his memory isn't so good. After all, he was divorced 40 years ago. Anyone would forget they were divorced 40 years ago, right GaG?
strong enough word. He has committed his life to stalking us. Sometimes I feel like a slave owner must have felt. Even though I granted him his freedom, he's afraid to leave me.
CDL is the biggest liar on TER, e.g., the number of times he's been married. I just call him out for his lies - to him that means I'm stalking him.
You used to post on the Politics board. After you stopped, CDL started posting there. Most of his posts are either bullshit or outright lies. He even admitted it, although he calls it "poetic license."
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/ter-general-board-12/where-the-fuck-----980705?frmSearch=1#980705
Try having a reasoned political debate with someone who lies all the time. CDL makes claims but doesn't back them up with links because he's usually making shit up.
As for GaG, he has been obsessed with ME for over ten years. He thinks he's the bully of TER and that people cower in fear of him. He can't bully me though so he resorts to telling lies and ad hominem attacks. His nickname for me is BLRPOS - Big Lying Racist Piece Of Shit. He keeps repeating The Big Lie over and over in the hope that if he says it enough times, people will believe it.
I rebut GaG's lies with the truth - GaG's own words:
"I am both a binge and a 'functional' (sic) alcoholic..."
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/ter-general-board-12/ok-in-that-case-substitute-me-everywhere-i-said-you-970125?frmSearch=1#970125
"I have the dubious honor of being both a high school, and college dropout..."
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/ter-general-board-12/dont-feel-alone-in-your-lack-of-formal-education-600984?frmSearch=1#600984
GaG hates it when I throw his own words back at him. He goes crazy and tells even more lies about me.
You asked, Curly.
21 days to go back four years to find something that he thinks is a "gotcha" is an complete obsession, whether he wants to admit it or not. He likes to take things out of context. He's always been the most dishonest poster on this board. He's had a bad attitude ever since TER turned him down to be a moderator back in the days with they were seeking volunteers to donate time and do it for free. They didn't want him, . . . . . even for free. They already know of his dishonesty.
Imo people shouldn't be so specific with numbers and dates if their memory isn't as good. Approximating things will be a lot safer and they won't be called out as much.
I consider my memory to be fairly solid, and even I will usually err on the side of approximations whenever I have even any doubt about a date or number. Better be safe than sorry.
Over the years, CDL has gone from one time to two times and in this thread has added two more times. Do you really have to approximate the number of times you've been married (unless you're Zsa Zsa Gabor)?
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I was talking about dates and ages.
Sinxw you asked, I was married approximately 0 times and have impregnated approximately 0.5 women 
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Married to a low volume hooker for a bit over 25 years until her death in a car accident. I met her as a customer, eventually started dating as non-customer/non-whore. We married and had two sons. She continued to see 2-5 customers a week for the entire time we were together. I would continue to fuck some of her co-workers now and then. All of it was up front and known from the time we started getting serious. I was military and had been fucking around the world for over 20 years. So, perhaps my attitude helped us. I think few can do or handle such a situation. But it can be done. I do think guys have more problems with such a possibility than the gals do.
lol,
as an aside; I've know and met many a wife doing much the same with friends and colleges; but probably not getting paid for the service normally.
A bit more about my background. My Dad was also military and away a lot of time. We did not, nor could we, go with him on various assignments due to the times. It took me a while to figure out, but Mom had some special family friends (not family) which she would mostly see privately. When Dad was home and when he was not. Paid or not? I don't know, but probably. I never heard Dad and her arguing about her seeing friends, and such. lol
I was in a 17-year relationship with a man, and for 5 of those, I had my own spot and entertained...
Now, we have parted as friends, but he has been seeing the same 6 ladies for the past 5-10 years... a couple of whom are here on TER...
And I give him references if he needs...
I saw an interview with this one young lady down in Louisiana who used to give River Boat Retreats to her "friends", and her husband was the boat captain! Looked like a nice relaxing ride...
Have a Nice Day!
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Pretty complete answer and so true on so many levels.
Women have been screaming for equal rights for decades, women don't want to be "just" someone's wife, or at least millions of women don't want that life.
I happen to agree with all those millions of women who value their independence and I have ZERO desire to "take care" of a woman who just wants to lie on the couch all day eating bon bons with no life of her own. I don't want a dependent if I were ever to get married again, I certainly am not going to marry for sex, and I have no desire to "force" a hooker to retire. If she "wants" to retire and transition into some other career I am perfectly capable and willing to support her financially while she does so, but I can't imagine marrying a woman who's sole desire is to be "taken care of" What a horrible basis for a marriage.
Which brings us back to the subject of dating or getting involved with an active sex worker. I am perfectly capable of compartmentalizing her "work" as the OP stated sex work is just that, it's "work" and nothing more. I don't date hookers for free sex, I don't actually date hookers at all, I sometimes do date women that happen to sell sex for a living. lol
I am the OP. In my case, yes I met my future wife as a client. Found her beautiful, sexy and rather engaging. Visited her again on her tour. A month later, visited her twice again when she returned, and we went out and saw a band as well. Nursed her through an episode of much too much alcohol. Spent quality time together.
This led to a visit to her hometown in Florida where I met "mom", who i Iearned later told her "you will marry him". Another visit to Florida, and a third led to me inviting her to live in my eastern US town. Boom. I guess at that point she was semi-retired. We grew closer and closer, we loved spending time with each other. I supported her 100% and loved her immensely.
But eventually, the lure of $2000 days got her back into the biz. Not my idea. Hers. Mom moved north also and it was a "support" kind of thing.
Being married to a very popular sex worker is daunting, no doubt. But it can be done. Both have to be able to compartmentalize work vs. life. We have 5 rules in place to ensure trust. And trust, honesty and transparency are very important.
Anyhow, love continued to bloom. Marriage ensued and its now 2.5 years later and i love her more everyday.
Needless to say, there is always discussion about her retiring. I would love that. Her money is her money, i don't need a dime of it. But its hard to give up $100k annually working 15 days a month.
We love to travel, we love to work out, swim, bike, watch movies and I love waking up to her every morning. I don't regret a minute of it. Will it last for every, who knows.
But we are not in any way a dysfunctional couple. We both have jobs, and hers happens to be a sex worker.
I know men don't want to hear this, but for her, sex with clients is work, not pleasure. Her job is to get the client to climax, make him happy enough to hopefully become a regular, and at the end of the day, she sleeps with me, and when we have sex, its for pleasure.
I think my wife is absolutely beautiful and sexy. But all that means nothing in a marriage if you can't laugh together, and experience all the other things life has to offer.
The mythos of sex workers being drug users, of not needing love, of having daddy issues, of having abusive history, of being trampy sluts, its mostly bullshit. Its a job. Some of us are IT professionals. Some of us sort packages for UPS. CEO's. Salesman. Uber drivers. Wait staff. Sex work is a job that is sometimes done by woman who are perfectly happy, mentally sound and capable of having a loving marriage.
Excellent post and best to you in the future with your gal. My details are much different than yours, but my sex worker wife (customers thought of her as a whore of course) continued her trade for 25 years until her accidental death. She went to work and I went to work. Had kids, had a family life. Had a lot of fun, banked a lot of money and enjoyed life. It is possible to date and marry a whore. It can work. But it is rare. The guy especially, in my opinion needs to be clear in his mind what is going on. I loved the 25 years with her and would do it again....
Awesome post!! Very happy for you and your spouse--wish you nothing but future happiness!!
I find the word whore offensive. Prefer escort or see worker. I would never use that term. Nor do I use the C word or B word to a woman ever. Ugh.
Most people here know I use the word hooker mainly as a term of endearment, I do agree that it's hard to use the word "whore" nicely. I rarely use the word either, except I do respond to another term of endearment "Man whore" that a few of my hooker buddies have been known to call me from time to time. I consider it a compliment. lol
I use the words cunt and bitch all the time, but I use them equally as often to describe men I don't respect as well as women. Actually I think I am MORE likely to call a man a "whiny little cunt" than I am a woman. lol
I go with "CNA"
Companion of Negotiable Affection 
Random: I believe they use the word “cunt” somewhat as a term of endearment in Australia, particularly men saying it to or about other men. (Eg. Aye, you know Mick Dundee royt? Yeh, Mick is a cool fella — a good cunt.)
Some chicks like being called names in the bedroom.
"working girl" almost exclusively until I joined TER. Posting on these boards has broadened my vocabulary some to where I find hooker, prostitute, and sex worker all acceptable. I try to avoid bitch and cunt except when referring to petulant or whiny men.
It’s def not for everyone.
For us, we go through periods of monogamy and being open. It’s tougher on the kids but that’s an unsexy rabbit hole discussion to go down.
back in the 90s i lived part time with a girl who was working the playboy mansion crowd. i got a kick that other guys were paying $1K or more ( this was 30 years ago) for something i was getting for free back when even i was broke due to a nasty divorce.
about 10 years I got close to one of the top TER girls .. she asked my hypothetically " could you marry me" i said sure! .. she asked, what about what the other neighborhood guys would say, my reply to them would have been "Sorry nobody will pay to sleep with YOUR wife! " LOL !! point taken
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