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Re: LMAO!!!
cool46 33 Reviews 112 reads
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WOW!!!that was uncalled for!

tijuanaraider3926 reads

I have been wanting to explore this issue for a while.  Now that TER is back (at least for me),  it time to throw it out there.  It always galls me when I consider a girl who has rates that don't reflect multi-hour adjustments.  For example, if a girl asks 600 per hour that is her prerogative (for the first hour that is fine), but then if I discover she wants 1800 for three hours I just immediately drop her from consideration.  Sends all the wrong messages as to attitude. 1500 for three hours would be a fine accommodation. I am not really trying to drive the rate down to an unreasonable level.  The un-adjusted rate also doesn't make allowances for old guys like me who are going to use an extended date in a much less strenuous way.  I much prefer and patronize girls who are considerate in their rate structure.  Long boards rule.  

Black-Panther126 reads

That's why there are more hookers than chemists.  Welcome to hooker math. I've seen where the multi-hour rate is HIGHER than the hourly rate.  

Try getting into that discussion with some of the ladies, it will make your head spin. Kind of like the old time Lucille Ball tv show when she says to her husband after she bounces a few checks, "I know there is still money in the account because I still have checks".

Also, rates may just reflect her own preferences. In some cases she is making her preferred-length session the most affordable. I know this isn't your example but you can find every sort of example you want. You're right to just move on if you don't like her rate card.

I'm not disputing your point. In fact, I agree that some older fellows would spend part of an extended stay in a relaxing recovery mode.  
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But another quirk is the well documented "Hooker Math".  Basically, it's non-linear, non-monotonic function of time. That would be something like:
1 hr 500 (500 per hour)
1.5 hr 800 (533 per hour)
2 hr 900 (450 per hour)
3 hr 1450 (483 per hour)
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Go figure. Literally.

Posted By: tijuanaraider

I have been wanting to explore this issue for a while.  Now that TER is back (at least for me),  it time to throw it out there.  It always galls me when I consider a girl who has rates that don't reflect multi-hour adjustments.  For example, if a girl asks 600 per hour that is her prerogative (for the first hour that is fine), but then if I discover she wants 1800 for three hours I just immediately drop her from consideration.  Sends all the wrong messages as to attitude. 1500 for three hours would be a fine accommodation. I am not really trying to drive the rate down to an unreasonable level.  The un-adjusted rate also doesn't make allowances for old guys like me who are going to use an extended date in a much less strenuous way.  I much prefer and patronize girls who are considerate in their rate structure.  Long boards rule.  

I've seen more of those random walk rate structures than I can possibly remember.  I don't believe they are intentionally punishing longer sessions.  Therefore the explanation in innumeracy.

structure their rates to discourage 90 minute bookings, which works out exactly as your example shows.  The bookers figure if a guy can consider a 90 minute session, they will nudge him up to two hours by making that a more attractive option when considered on a per-hour rate basis as you have shown.  

TheVoiceOfReason133 reads

Translation: Lady isn't going to let a guy come 2 times in 1 hour.  Hmm ... If you want to come twice then you are going to have to at least book my 90 minute session - I am gonna make you pay for it.  I can chit chat enough to ensure that the guy won't come 3 times in 2 hours.  If you want to come 3 times, then you gotta book my 3 hour session.  The third one is always a pain the ass and requires more work than the other two so I gotta make you pay for it.  I am not super hot so I know you are not going to come super quick.  That said, sucks for the guy who comes within the first 10-15 minutes of a 1 hr session.

...and it's been brought up many a time.

I agree with your logic but I also agree that it's her business to decide her own rate structure.

So I just see it as a way for me to pre-screen possible playmates.

Depending on the industry the price schedule may or may not reflect some type of volume discount but is the hourly rate really one where we see that a lot?  

Do the labor unions push for if someone works 30 hours the hourly pay is X but if you ask them to work 40 hours we'll do that for X-z per hour? Does you lawyer have multi-hour discounts? If you go to a restaurant with a bunch of people and 5 want to order the same menu item, do they expect a per plate discount?

I get that some do offer the discounts (sometimes in rather strange ways) but to be honest, I would not really be surprised if some wanted (or even did) increasing rates. It's pretty easy to put up with most people you don't particularly care about for an hour, doing that for two hours is not just twice as hard though. Maybe that flat hourly rate IS the discount ;-)

As with everything in this, go with the ones that you are comfortable with and don't really worry about the others, just move on.

I've seen lawyers do the reverse, maybe either a free or reduced initial consultation.  Then billable hours to work on the case.  The goal is to drum up business.  So I think that is the key -- maximize income.
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Obviously an escort can't follow the lawyer method of a free or reduced initial session because a ton of guys would come in for a free 10 minute BJ.  Unlike a lawyer there is no follow-on work.
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What would help maximize an escorts income is what most (I would guess) are intending.  Sure some might want to limit session lengths for some reason, but I don't see that in most rate structures.  Since many guys can finish in an hour or so, to get them to stay longer and pay  more requires some incentives.
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If you hire a painter to paint a room, I bet he'd offer to do additional rooms at a discount.  So I do think it is common to entice additional engagement.

I have always found the girls who are most rigid with their public pricing are the ones who are softest about it BTS. Many do this intentionally, knowing full well when they receive a below listed offer, as many do, they have room to move.

 
You have to remember, some girls don't give their exact rate structure all that much thought when they first start out. Some just have no idea what to charge.  

 
So what many do is find another, already established girl in their market who they feel is the closest comparison (age, body type, style, etc) and they copy their rate card verbatim, not thinking it all the way through how a non discounted 3 hour gig appears to a john.

 
But when they realize they just aren't getting many requests for those 3 hour dates that are 3x the one hour fee, the rate then tends to soften which then allows for much more reasonable arrangements to be achieved.

about 15-18 indies a year on average, I like two-hour sessions, so I tend to steer  towards ladies that give a discount on the second hour.  I would only do three hours if I was one of the trimix users, and would probably go broke quickly.  

I've seen some who don't discount until hour 3, some not until hour 4, some not until their overnight rate.  
I technically start discounting at the 90min rate (my hr is 400, 90mins is 550, 2hr is 650 etc).
They have their reasons as do I....but one of them might not be bad attitude/GPS at all.  
Maybe one of them who chooses not do discount until beyond their 3hr rate will chime in.
Because rants (sorry "explorations") about rates/heaux math are always a riveting clam slapping good time.

Whew.

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with good incentives build in too encourage longer appointments.  No hooker math at YOUR business.  Kudos.  

Dmbs1122 reads

Hour one requires an hour to get ready and a trip to and from an Incall  or the hotel fee
Not unreasonable to say with the above and screening three hours of work to the hour appointment.
Using that a 600 / hr rate is 200 per hour net. If charges second hour at 300 is making 100 more per hour.
The exception being if busy  could book another a half to an hour later  
Here is a rate structure that makes sense. Seems like the 90 might be too low but probably a way to get paid for running over the hour .
https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/victoria-sloan-176188

I think 90 min is that sweet spot for me. But I definitely have people I could spend 2 hours  or more with. I have my 10 year guru that sees me 2 hours sometimes 3 and we have been each other so long I just charge him a flat fee either way. I know he will be around when I need him so that makes it worth it to me. What really ticks me off is those who try to low ball but them ask for multiple hours afterwards. It just leaves a bad taste.

Did it ever occur to you it's up to HER what she charges for how long, why and with whom?  

The variables as far as if you're worthy?  

If you're dedicated and you have a connection?  

Who the fuck you think you are asking, nay, demanding, what these ladies do and what they ask for their time?  

Last I checked, most of you clowns have to pay to get laid.  

Now you're criticizing them cuz you can't perform.  

Next you'll want your money back cuz they did everything to make you cum but you can't.

Fucking get over yourself, fucking clown!

WOW!!!that was uncalled for!

over something he said two months ago?  Lol

I agree I think alot of providers structure rates to accommodate what kind of experience/ date they prefer to have more of.  

I have a wide menu, so I really like longer dates. I know girls who would rather take a quick hr. Less emotional work. Some providers prefer to stay more closed off. I prefer real connections. Makes for better intimacy.

These are my rates. I taper them.

1 hour 400
1 hour outcall 450
90 minutes 600
2 hours 750
3 hours 1150
4 hours 1500
Overnight (15 hours)

GaGambler157 reads

But I think most guys here will agree that a hundred dollar "discount" on a four hour date isn't really much of a "taper" Especially when it works out to EXACTLY twice your two hour rate. There is ZERO cost savings per hour in booking a four hour date. That's NOT a taper in my book.

 
That said, your rates, your business. I am not trying to tell you to charge less. I am just pointing out your rate structure belies your words about how much you like longer dates.

You're almost thing maybe it was a typo. The 3 hour rate has a $50 discount from twice the 90 minute rate. Might have expected something like another $50 off for the 4 hour -- maybe 1400, or at least 1450 -- but again it might be intentional.

that can afford four hours are 70 years old and want 3-4 pops.  She KNOWS she'll be working her ass off.  Lol

TheVoiceOfReason122 reads

Most guys are going to look at this and be incentivized to book 2 x 2-hour appointments.  Most John's are not rocket scientists either.  They are just going to say I could come 3 times in two hours or we can chit chat more and I can come 3 times in 4 hours.  Hmm.  I can schedule 1 x 4-hour appointment and come 3 times or I can schedule 2 x 2-hour appointments and come 6 times or twice as much for the same price.  No brainier for most guys.  

It probably won't work on the same day.  Lol

GaGambler152 reads

I can see booking two hours in the morning and then another two hours later in the day.  

 
Not for me of course, but other guys.  

 
I do remember seeing this little Korean girl in LV several years back, I booked an hour session with her early in the day at her incall, and I enjoyed it so much I called her back for an outcall later that very same evening.  

 
I remember this other time in Costa Rica during the Superbowl, I was losing my ass on the game so I took the same chica up to my room three separate times during the game. The game sucked, but so did she, so it ended up being a pretty good day.

for other guys, I could use two hours twice in the same day.  Not sure I could do the second two hours justice, but if you're buying, it doesn't really matter.   Thank you in advance for your generosity.  Lol

and look for ladies whose rate structure suggests she prefers longer appointments as well.

 
It's a good thing when preferences and tastes coincide.  

 
Never try to force it when it doesn't fit for her; there are simply too many options where it does. Just move along to someone else.

 
Then again... if she clearly prefers a short date and you really want to see her, why not give it a go and do the short session? Maybe it's worth it?

Can we connect the dots here?? wait for it.....wait for it......lol

Get the impression that one might take the 10 20s over the 6 50s. After all, the additional 4

A bit sad.

I tried to find it on You Tube, but in vain.   However here's a short clip that will give you an idea of her humor and make you smile.

but I just cancelled on her so I can stay home and make a pot roast.

8o)

Sigh, they don't write them like that anymore.

and apparently cannot even really copy them well.

If the 3 versus 12 slices was a redo of a Burns and Allen skit I cannot believe they did it justice.

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