....where dudes are actually talking about how to do it. Some guys started doing this a few years back and if you hit the right industry sector, the "connections" come pretty easily. They tend to land in Tech, sales, media or recruiting. It could take a 3-4 months to hit 500 contacts if a person worked it daily and still not get flagged by the terms of service. Engaging in conversations and group participation would help.
Similar to Facebook but not as prevalent, Linked In is also subject to hacking, mostly by data scraping. Profiles are available for purchase on the dark web for less than $50. Who would do this? Horny guys that are afraid of their PII getting exposed? No, bad guys with bad intentions. But how many providers get the profile and take it for granted?The last few times I’ve filled out scheduling forms on escort’s websites, they’ve asked for links to my LinkedIn profile. No requests from referrals. No P411 information requests. Now they’re verifying clients through LinkedIn.
LinkedIn is basically a job hunting resource. You put a profile on there, with your work title and work information, and you can use this to network with other professionals and possibly get other jobs. Anyone can put anything on their LinkedIn site, it doesn’t have to be 100 % accurate. How is this a good verification tool for escorts?
It has your picture and proves you are employed, but other than that I’m confused why this would be better than the other verification methods escorts have used in the past.
Your name, your place of work, your associates.
The underlying message is she can fuck with your livelihood.
Single guys may not care about giving a real name, but they will care about their source of income.
LinkedIn profiles are essentially a digital business card, it’s the longevity and follower count that makes it credible. Very difficult to fake an account with 7 years of activity and 500+ connections. As to why it’s being used as preferred method, I can’t say.
....where dudes are actually talking about how to do it. Some guys started doing this a few years back and if you hit the right industry sector, the "connections" come pretty easily. They tend to land in Tech, sales, media or recruiting. It could take a 3-4 months to hit 500 contacts if a person worked it daily and still not get flagged by the terms of service. Engaging in conversations and group participation would help.
Similar to Facebook but not as prevalent, Linked In is also subject to hacking, mostly by data scraping. Profiles are available for purchase on the dark web for less than $50.
Who would do this? Horny guys that are afraid of their PII getting exposed? No, bad guys with bad intentions. But how many providers get the profile and take it for granted?
Yeah, if they take a quick look at the profile and do nothing else, I can see them being fooled. But if they spend a little more time they can use LinkedIn to confirm more. I know some providers won’t accept a profile without a picture. With a picture they get your face. If this isn’t the same face they see through the peephole, they aren’t opening the door.
That is if you even get that far. A lot of them will search the web and cross check information. One of the simplest things they can do is check your current place of business. They can see if there is a staff directory. They might call and ask for you, but hang up once they get confirmation you work there. There are other things they can do by just having your profile to reduce the chances you’re a fraud.
But sure, in the end, if someone puts in enough work, they can cover all bases. In most cases, the person who puts in more of an effort will win. A lazy confirmation process by a lady puts her more at risk. But one with effort is more likely to weed out the bad guys. I’m going to go out on a limb here and say the guy trying to get over on an escort is likely not a criminal mastermind and with effort will be outsmarted.
I would counter that guys who go thru those efforts aren't normal guys just trying on the sneak to get verified but guys that operate like that IRL and the ones pros would want to avoid at all costs.
Sure, everything gets gamed and we live in a world that is far from perfect or ideal.
But I'm wondering just how many of those bad guys are then using their fake/stolen Linked-In profile to screen with hookers?
Not taking a position on how the girls run their business or try to protect themselves just wonder exactly what the risks from this claim might really be. A serial killer perhaps but those are actually pretty rare in the general population so is that a 0.001 percent chance? Other types of "bad guys"?
No, if there's a guy out there with the primary intention to do harm to a sexworker and the only verification he needs is a linked in profile, well the odds of that happening are much higher than your 001. I'd say you can flip that 180 for a more accurate % of someone doing it.
So you're saying most guys have the intention of harming sex workers or women in general? Seems a bit questionable.
not too bright, huh?
"No, if there's a guy out there with the primary intention to do harm to a sexworker"
The point is, bad guys will be the ones going to that extent to falsify/steal an identity. The other guys that just don't want to provide PII, likely will not. How you took that for most guys is beyond me. Are you one of the "most guys" that want to harm providers?
And to Heshits claim above..."I’m going to go out on a limb here and say the guy trying to get over on an escort is likely not a criminal mastermind and with effort will be outsmarted."
The psychopath that might be a serial rapist/killer may very well be a highly intelligent person. Providers using linked in as the gold standard are playing in a dangerous area.
I suspect you shouldn't be talking about the brightness of other's bulbs.
The point was that the number of people in the population that are what you're pointing to is fairly small so the probability that the linked-in account is fakes and faked by someone that means harm is also small. So the majority of the linked-in account provided will actually just be guys that want to have fun so using that as one of the screening data points for accepting a client makes sense.
I don't know which providers you're pointing at that claim link-ed in is some gold standard for verification but if there are some they are being careless. Anyone that relies on a single verification data point is lazy. So maybe you're just taking exception with some smaller set of providers for being careless or stupid rather than with the idea of linked-in being one of many means providers can try to filter out bad actors.
I've seen many adverts that ask for only Link in for verification.
Aside from whatever point you thought you were making, you're post says what is says and doesn't represent anything close to what I said. If you take a minute or two to get your wording correct, you won't have to come back a second time and have to try and explain it.
Just like in clients safety discussions, LinkedIn verification is just one step of "defense", a filter so to speak.
It's kinda like using VPN and using a burner if you're a client. It won't guarantee you full safety, but it will filter out the lowest hanging fruit.
For some, it's enough of filtering done. For some it's just one of many tools they use.
Just like with clients never being fully safe or anonymous, having it be at least ast halfway there does wonders. Same with providers screening imo.
I think we all agree if a criminal mastermind with multiple false identities wants to see a provider, he probably will. Just like if the fbi has a monger identity on their most wanted list (although given some of latest developments I'm not so sure about fbi anymore but that's more for p&r lol), they probably would get him.
The point here is to not be fully safe because yes that's a pipe dream, but do as much as you can to be safe.... without spending all of your time on it but also not being careless.
Gotta stay sharp out there… I’ve seen profiles where even the LinkedIn connections were bought 😅 Happens a lot with folks trying to look more “professional.” At the end of the day, LinkedIn is just another tool.. not proof.
I will do a general search to see if there is an account, just like I will search other social media sites to confirm the guy's info is the same in all locations. I would never only use one site to confirm a guy is legit and safe. You can create a fake profile on just about any site. To fake multiple profiles on multiple sites takes some high level of nut ball dedication.
I offer a few options for verification-Combination of ID and LinkedIn/work badge/work website with client listed or provider references. Clients still complain or don’t want to. Not sure what the solution is 🤷🏼♀️
The ID and LinkedIn combo tells me the guy is employed outside of LE, and the LinkedIn belongs to him. (I check for history, associates, etc on LI).
Nothing is guaranteed but it makes me feel a bit better going in to an appt.
In this game we all know what’s at stake. I would never risk my safety over blackmailing/threatening or outing a client. Trust me, the decent providers out there don’t care where you work, how much you make, marital status etc. I spend 1 minute verifying and delete the info.
My question for clients: what verification method do you prefer?
In the end, you have to do what works with your own comfort zone. If you feel comfortable offerring more options, great. But never feel you have to do so. As a client, I can decide if I am comfortable with the options you offer. There is nothing wrong with me walking away and not booking you. Neither of us should sacrifice our own comfort zones. And, there should be mutual respect. If they are actually complaining to you, you don't need them. They are worse than the ones who politely and respectfully decline.
My preference for screening?
Anything that makes you feel comfortable that does not involve my work.
I recently had an issue where a provider claimed I had not Internet presence so could not screen me! I was both thrilled and frustrated.
I ended up giving two references, which is not my preference because I do not know if the providers will respond.
Hello!
If you are going to use a provider as a reference you really should reach out to the provider first letting her know who will be contacting her and if they are OK being a reference. Some providers are very specific as to how long they will go back to be a reference for you (some go back 3 months, some 6, etc.). Also if you have only seen the provider once some do not feel comfortable being a reference either. Also giving several references to a provider without verifying with the original providers may cause the provider you want to see go on a wild goose chase wasting everyone's time trying to track down when and if you saw the original provider. This is one of the main reasons I no longer accept references. The amount of time I wasted was ridiculous and yes, half the time the original provider never responded. I am assuming you don't want to burn any bridges in the community and this unfortunately is one sure fire way to do it.
Yea, I think I'll send a gift card to the two that did do it.
I"m done seeing any providers that require references.
He would even easier fake an ID or references. Girls like it because it’s straight forward and can quickly be verified.
None of them are worth giving out that info. Maybe …mayyyyybe Carmen Electra 😂
For those of us who know what we're looking for, it's a useful tool.
I'm OK with it because virtually anyone can find my LinkedIn profile on purpose or by accident. It's a heck of a lot better than getting caught up in selfies with your DL or a video verification. Those last two are red lines for me.