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Re: It has long been TER's practice . . . .
cks175 51 Reviews 137 reads
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They mostly don't know the difference between the types of agencies, ergo their confusion, hence the thread. OMG.
They obviously knew enough to realize the thread was about Asian agencies, hence it’s placement in the KGirl Forum.

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TER admin decided my advice thread on seeing a particular girl at an ACS (see below)  does not get to be posted on the General Board. They moved it. I think some of the boards they created were valid at the time they were created, but no longer hold enough of a distinction to justify keeping them, and others were created as a place for them to move posts they don't want too many eyes on.
 
K-girl? Really? You won't find any K-girls at ACSs. Period.
   
As for TER, they are their own worst enemy.

...it was most likely in response to someone who filed a Problem Report and suggested it should be moved to the K-girl board.  

First time I’ve ever agreed with BigPapasan. The thread wasn’t about K-Girls, but it was Asian specific. Somebody must have filed a problem report. Frustrating for the OP, but the thread will probably get more engagement over there.

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Nope, it went straight to K-girl as far as I know. They don't work fast enough to have done all of what you're saying in the span of 1.5 hrs.
 
Wouldn't change my position, though. The thread is not about K-girls and under no circumstances belongs there.

If you are moderated, TER would first read your post that you intended for the General board.  They then would post it straight to the K-girl board if they thought it would be more appropriate there.

 
If you are unmoderated, your post would have immediately been posted on the General board and afterwards moved to the K-girl board by way of a Problem Report.

 
Either way, 1.5 hours seems pretty fast for TER these days.

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I have no freakin' idea. In fact, I didn't know "unmoderated" was a thing, especially on a individual basis. Is it?

I don't know for sure but I assumed not. I was basically moderated for life and then I wasn't. So I figured, if I'M not moderated no one is.

Yes there is moderation. There are some posts selected via specific words. I've had some fun figuring out what words were triggering the moderation and then editing the post until it magically no longer was in mod queue and was posted.  

 

There is also either length of post, or frequency of post trigger that you can't seemingly evade.

...and they're still moderated.  Maybe the OP was a victim of random moderation.

posts for moderation the same way the TSA strip searches grannies who might be terrorists.  Lol

It's actually very specific words, and as someone who likes to find patterns, it wasnt difficult to identify them.  

Words like (I'm using some characters in there on purpose to make it go thru)  

H_arm
Sh&ame
K$illed

And so forth

They won't be flagged all the time, but they are the ones I target on my edits to make the post appear right away. Another cool thing:it's better to write a small post and then add a big edit, I don't think I've ever seen an edit from a post be flagged if initial post hasn't been flagged.

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I didn't understand your question at first, not sure I do now, because I assumed the boards were always moderated. However, if the fact that I have 4 posts that are stuck in 'new' status (not including this one), the oldest from 9/23/2021 7:33:44 PM (it's now 0100 on 9/24), then, yes, I'm being moderated. I even PMed them to ask if their systems needed a stool softener.
 
And  that doesn't surprise me given how critical I've been of TER. Not maliciously. In fact, if they act, it will be proven helpful. What none of you can know is the volume of my PMs with TER before I even poked my head into the discussion boards as a way of airing my concerns.
 
Curiously, there are lots of users who are unapologetically TER-apologizers. It defies logic: if you know there's a problem, fix it. To those of you who fit that category, see my latest thread on the General Board...if it ever gets posted! The -- currently dead -- link is below. Open questions (increasingly rhetorical): 1) Is paying for TER only for suckers? 2) Is taking care when writing reviews a waste of time? 3) Is there a cadre of users who will do anything to keep TER as a place to vent and bash each other instead of using it for its stated purpose?
 
Apropos of nothing: "Questions, Questions, Questions, flooding into the mind of the concerned young person today." ~FZ, Call Any Vegetable

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to put posts of Asian agencies on the Kgirl board regardless of the nationality of workers because they are all using a similar high-volume Kgirl business model.  This includes Asian massage parlors offering an enhanced menu beyond massages.  Posts regarding Asian independents would go on this board.  

 
I read your post on the Kgirl board and TER actually did you a favor by targeting your post to the audience that is most likely to visit the places you are talking about.

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The thread is primarily about guys who visit girls based on TER reviews they liked. They mostly don't know the difference between the types of agencies, ergo their confusion, hence the thread. OMG.

They mostly don't know the difference between the types of agencies, ergo their confusion, hence the thread. OMG.
They obviously knew enough to realize the thread was about Asian agencies, hence it’s placement in the KGirl Forum.

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Posted By: cks175
Re: It has long been TER's practice . . . .
They mostly don't know the difference between the types of agencies, ergo their confusion, hence the thread. OMG.
They obviously knew enough to realize the thread was about Asian agencies, hence it’s placement in the KGirl Forum.
What exactly does your sentence mean? Who's the "they" you start with. In your quote of me, "they" refers to the subject of sentence you left out, "guys who visit girls based on TER reviews." You say "they" knew enough to lump a thread about Chinese providers in a group about K-girls? Hm. Okay.
 
And, before I said anything, I spent some time reading posts in the K-girl forum to try and understand what it's all about such that there's a separate forum. I have to admit I'm not sure there is enough of a distinction to keep it, but what discussion of Asians there is, it's about...K-girls. Imagine that. Not C-girls, K-girls. It's a popular enough forum that having a thread moved there isn't like having it hidden in the Suggestions and Policy forum, I'll grant you that. But to the extent it's focused on anything, it's focused on K-girls

It has long been TER's practice . . . .
to put posts of Asian agencies on the Kgirl board regardless of the nationality of workers
That’s why your thread ended up in KGirls. You noted that your quick perusal didn’t find anything other than KGirl (ignoring the fact that your C-Girl thread was front and center on Page One). Given that you’re a noob, we’ll give you a pass for not knowing the long practices of TER in regards to subject placement in the KGirls Forum.

As far as the clarity of your posts go, that’s an area that needs some work…

They mostly don't know the difference between the types of agencies, ergo their confusion, hence the thread
Your use of “they” points to the TER Admins, not the readers. The TER Admins weren’t confused. They placed your post in the appropriate forum for the content included.

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I'm was really glad to see the discussion about the history of the K-girl board that was generated by my questioning its relevancy. It really does have its own flavor even if it's full of stuff that would fit nicely on the General board.
 
As for your reply, I think one of the problems I've encountered ever since I started writing detailed posts is the tendency of all of us, yes me too, to read to quickly. This is a great case of that because my post was only a concise two-sentence paragraph. and I quote:   "The thread is primarily about guys who visit girls based on TER reviews they liked. They mostly don't know the difference between the types of agencies, ergo their confusion, hence the thread. OMG."
 
"They" is used to refer to the subject of a clause, here that would be "guys who visit girls based on TER reviews." In other words, it represents the ‘doers’ of the action described by the verb, and usually refers back to two or more people or things that were mentioned in the previous sentence, here the "guys." The subject of the clause couldn't be clearer. I actually say it's "the thread is about guys..." Those guys are the "they' in the next sentence. "They" in this case cannot be referring to some other persons or entity. This is really easy stuff for native English speakers.
 
Unfortunately, the model on these boards seems to be: 1) misread a post and respond with inaccuracies, talk about things the OP didn't say; 2) make some unfounded assumptions about what wasn't said; 3) blame the OP of being unclear and, for good measure, call him some names; 4) continue a legacy fight with other members that runs across threads; 5) see the worst posts, the ones with the most name calling, insults, and totally unrelated comments, actually getting likes. The likes seem like they must be from buddies and people who just like a good fight because they are liking a post that has almost nothing to do with the post it's supposed to be in response to.
 
In a post just below, it talks about two guys who got banned from TER. I can't even imagine what they were banned for given the types of posts that are considered acceptable by TER. Did they plot to harm somebody?

came out of an internal squabble on the LA Regional Board. It was made a national level discussion board as it's clear K-Girls work in many more than one regional or area (city, state, metro area...).

 
While the discussion there is (or historical has been) nearly universally focused on K-Girls it often did have some discussion of other Asian providers, Thai, Japanese, Chinese but those were more side-bar type threads. In 2020 a few more people stated showing up that appear to frequent the Chinese providers. Also, in DMW area we started see a Chinese agency working on the same model as the Korean agencies (maintaining it's own web ad site, AAPM not storefront, branded with a published name). I think both lead to increases discussion of Asian providers in general on this board rather than the more narrow focus on K-Girls with other Asians discussed on their Regional board or the General board.

Vas you dere, Charlie?  Fuck no, Jensen!  You're talking out of your ass.  You know nothing about the origination of the K-girl board.

 
It wasn't "internal" and it sure as hell wasn't a "squabble."  Your bullshit characterization of the origins of the K-girl board is undoubtedly colored by your K-monger glasses.  And you're just regurgitating the bullshit fed to you by other K-mongers.

 
In 2009, K-fanboys started posting a lot on the L.A. board because most of the K-girl action in the U.S. was in L.A. at that time.  In 2009, there were no separate ad boards for providers.  Providers participated in discussions and posted their ads on the local boards.  

 
K-fanboys were obnoxious assholes who tried to take over the L.A. board.  They drove the providers off the board and tried to make all the threads about K-girls.  They were led by Harpman60 and Beemer310.  Harpman came to an ignominious end when he was revealed as one of the ringleaders of the Seattle scandal.  Beemer was banned from TER but kept coming back under different handles and was always caught because of his stupidity.

 
The "squabble" got so bad that TER had no choice but to give K-fanboys their own board where they could rave about their "K-dolls," K-divas," K-icons" and K-legends" and continue to trash, insult and denigrate all non K-girls ("indies") as being "overage, overpriced, overweight , bad attitude second rate so called home grown indies."

 
You're also wrong when you mix your tenses by saying: "It was made a national level discussion board as it's clear K-Girls work in many more than one regional or area..."  Yes, NOW it's clear K-girls work in more than one city but in 2013 when the K-girl board WAS made a national board, 95% of the posts were about L.A. K-girls and that went on for about six years until K-mongers from other cities started posting.

 
You and CDL should keep your BULLSHIT restricted to the K-girl board where it belongs.

So a squabble on the LA board. Characterize it as you want but I think your post itself points to something other than the "k-fanboys" being the problem (even if they contributed to the arguments).

 
As for some of the later comments it's bull shit. Here's a link to a thread started on the board in 2014 that clearly about the DMV area. I can recall a number of other discussion on the board back then originating outside LA and about various other markets. Clearly didn't take 6 years (the thread is from April 2014) -- and I suspect in fact much of the complaint on the LA board was about the non-LA related posting but was not there so cannot say that was a fact.

 Harpman came to an ignominious end when he was revealed as one of the ringleaders of the Seattle scandal.
I wasn’t around for Harpman and Beemer. What’s your version of “the Seattle Scandal”?

Idk about bigps version of the scandal, but iirc harpman was a member of "the league". Which made news in Bellevue busts.  

 
Fun note is that the league wasnt specifically local to Seattle

he has to look it up.  I've posted enough in the past that he should be able to piece together a coherent response for you.  If he doesn't get it right, I will be happy to correct the record for you.  Lol

have little understanding of the Kgirl scene until they become part of it.  Its a high-volume business model that keeps the quality of the services high while keeping the rates low in relation to indies.  It has been emulated by Thai, Chinese and Japanese orgs, so Asian agencies running their org like the Kgirl business model are all put on the Kgirl board because that's where the most potential customers for these type of agency-girls are within the TER community.  

 
If you read the Kgirl forum back through the years, you will find that there have been plenty of posts about Thai, Chinese and Japanese girls, usually in response of someone inquiring about available girls in a particular city or location.  Most of us that have been on that board for years are interested in seeing girls of ANY nationality what run according to the Kgirl model, i.e., confirmed appointments at specific times with girls working out of a 2-bedroom apartment location.  This, by definition, would exclude places where you can't make an appointment (show up and wait) for a specific girl, or ones that are NOT working out of a two-bedroom apartment incall.  One notable exception is Las Vegas, which taps the tourist trade by letting Kgirls do outcalls to the major hotels.  A few agencies have tried outcall in LA, but it never caught on, and has all but been abandoned.

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