TER General Board

Re: Intrusive calls
beechnut 1 Reviews 3000 reads
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1 / 42

Question that has bugged me for a long time. Now seems that almost nobody talks on the phone and operates exclusively via texts or some third site such as Snapchat. This seems like a bid red flag and possibly in many cases a coverup for scams. Call me old school if you must, but to me talking by phone is a more personal and effective approach. What do you see happening?

John_Laroche 67 reads
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2 / 42

1. It's similar to society in general.
2. Could be a booker/assistant for several providers.
3. Poor english skills.

QueenBia See my TER Reviews 76 reads
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3 / 42

It’s a privilege to have a providers # that many abuse. I recently had a regular who was drunk & text for hours without sending any token of appreciation, so he’s cut off it’s a shame. I stopped using a phone in 2010 & it’s email only to book a date. Who has time to answer calls?  I’m a full time Super Mom, so if you can’t read the website I created with all the information needed to make an executive decision we won’t get along. No need to waste anyone’s time. Having an additional phone line is not necessary, unless you’re really working & this is your lifestyle career.  

Long ago before I had kids I had several phones & answered calls because I had time & I was literally sitting around waiting for a date. Back then I did not care about my safety, so I did not do verification checks. I am very fortunate I am alive & well. Old school is what I consider myself as well, but you have to evolve at some point.

anony3274931 48 reads
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4 / 42

My best experiences have been the ones who do talk on the phone. They are out there just find the right ones.

mrfisher 112 Reviews 53 reads
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5 / 42

I always like to converse with someone before I meet them, and in fact a few gals I have met over the years insisted on it as they get a good feel if the person is a fit for them or not.

 
However, as some have pointed out, phone calls can be an outlet for bad behavior, so many become reticent* to use the method any more.

 
*(Please note that I was tempted to say, but didn't say, that many providers now eschew using the phone.   Thank you.)

WIMissScarlet See my TER Reviews 71 reads
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6 / 42

When I first started out as a sex worker I did use my phone #, but guys for whatever reason forget that we have a life outside of our job as a provider or that we may be with another client. I was getting calls when I was with another client, when I was out grocery shopping, and all hours of the morning and night. I have specific times I check my emails so it has become much easier for me to schedule my personal and professional life.  
Also guys would call me just to chit chat, or feel the need to talk for 15+ min when calling to book an appointment. I don't have the time. Chatting is for our session time when we are together in person.  
If I have never seen you before you are still going to need to email me your screening info, so utilizing a phone call is just another unnecessary step in the middle.  
This is one instance where I would say not having a phone number listed would be low on the list utilized to try and spot a scam.

Lt_FrankDrebin 10 Reviews 58 reads
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7 / 42

Yeah, some providers say call or text, and as MrFisher said, some insist on a phone call to begin the process of getting aquatinted. Those are both always attractive to me and every woman I’ve met who allowed calls turned out to be a great time.  

 
But you can’t honestly think that not allowing calls is a scam red flag, surely. That’s gotta be like 90% or more of all providers.  

 
Several women have told me they meet with a very small portion of the people who make contact. Most are fantasy bookers, time wasters, creeps, perverts, low-lifes, etc. Almost as bad as hanging out with congress all the time. That’s why a lot of them will give you a phone number only after they meet you.  

 
I appreciate when a woman allows calls, but I certainly understand why the vast majority don’t. It’s not a red flag.

inicky46 61 Reviews 69 reads
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8 / 42

And so many guys will never get it. Because they are whiney, clingy, needy losers who think escorts actually want to talk to them. Most would rather talk than book.
Then, when said provider shuts them down, they get angry.

TiannaTemptation See my TER Reviews 69 reads
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9 / 42

Simply because we are providers does not make us on-call 24/7 for any old Joe who wants to chat.  For example, when is the last time you just called your physician directly in the middle of a workday or night to speak to him/her directly n/c?

 
I publish my phone number on my site with instructions that I only accept texts and I still get guys calling. That just tells me you do not respect my boundaries or wishes, which doesn’t leave a good impression whatsoever - I do not answer those calls.  

 
If you feel strongly about talking to a girl you are interested in booking I would suggest first following her contact instructions and then politely explaining your request. Then she can make an individual decision on whether to accommodate your request.  

holystonethedeck 91 Reviews 65 reads
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10 / 42

I don't even call ladies that I know well and/or have seen many times. As you said, I think of it as intrusive unless we pre-arrange a call.

 
I consider a couple of ladies I have met to be friends, and even then I don't call out of the blue.

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 61 reads
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11 / 42

Yes, society in general.  Calling is becoming somewhat extinct.  Texting is far more convenient, efficient, and effective.  
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When you call, you have the initial anxiety of breaking the ice.  Now of course there are people who love to talk, but on the other side, many people procrastinate on making calls due to their anxiety in doing so.  Plus the issue of nobody answering, and having to continue to make calls (except for those people who have answering machines.)  
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It's sort of "The old is new again."  Before the telephone, people used to send letters.  Phones came along and offered immediacy -- but also the above issues.   Text has the immediacy of phones but the efficiency of writing.  

Kikiloverkink See my TER Reviews 65 reads
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12 / 42

I am an old school girl I suppose, I prefer a quick phone call than screening sent through text. An easy and convenient way to book me. I hate emailing back and forth all day just to get all the information I need. If you email me I’m telling you to text.

beechnut 1 Reviews 63 reads
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13 / 42

But bad behavior can be accomplished via text and email as well. And text only can also be a coverup for scammers who aren’t really what they say there are. By being able to hear someone’s voice one knows at least that there’s a voice behind the ad. Anybody considering launching a crusade to work only with those who will let us hear their voice?

beechnut 1 Reviews 47 reads
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14 / 42

A way around this might be an introductory convo with a time limit of not more than 15 to 20 minutes. Not everyone is going to want to book instantly. It’s just liking looking for a TV set in that you’re most likely not going to put money down on the first set you see in the aisle. This should be no different.

beechnut 1 Reviews 65 reads
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15 / 42

And yet on many of the low budget ads they proclaim that they are available 24/7. Really? How could anybody possibly be? We all need sleep, so that could be a red flag right there. One could bracket certain hours for calls.

beechnut 1 Reviews 66 reads
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16 / 42

I did though communicate for a time with one who worked by email only. There were actually two. One I met and the other turned out to be a scam—one of those who demanded a deposit and then wanted even more. Hope you can see why the idea of sending deposits is a turn off.

edinathens 64 reads
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17 / 42

I prefer email to make contact, to determine compatibility, to verify, and to schedule a meeting. It's also a good way to organize your contacts and track of each one's conversation, which you can't do with phone calls. Note, you can get scammed just as easily with a phone call, as you can with emails or texts. On the day of the meeting, I prefer to text, as it's more timely, but I have done both.  

WIMissScarlet See my TER Reviews 58 reads
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18 / 42

Just curious.....what do you think you are going to glean from a phone call that you are not able to get from reviews, social media, our ads, and our websites?  
When I go into best buy the guy I am talking to about a TV I know is getting paid, so no, you might not be putting money down, but he is still getting paid he hourly rate if you talk to him for 3 min or 45 min about different TVs. Sex workers are not. If you want to chat on the phone for 15 min, my going rate for that would be like $60, which I doubt many gents would be willing to pay.  
I just really don't think you understand the amount of messages we get everyday, and I am in the middle of no where Wisconsin. If I talked on the phone to every one of them for 15 min that is all I would be doing all day and not making any money with actual appointments. Just not cost effective or time efficient in my book.

MatureGFE See my TER Reviews 67 reads
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19 / 42

and chat w/ a few close client friends from time to time. When someone I haven't met before actually books and has been verified by me, we have a break the ice phone cha before our confirmed meeting. Not before.  

Being email only until a new client is verified and our date is set saves me the headaches I hear about from ladies who have their phone # posted on sites and their ads.  

 
Stteph XO

WIMissScarlet See my TER Reviews 61 reads
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20 / 42

Hey, I am a low budget whore buddy, watch it!!!  LOL  
But yes, this is correct. No one is available 24/7. It is a red flag. Even if someone is available for late night/early morning calls they will have it listed that they will want more of a donation. Many gals also have another job/kids/etc. so there is no way they are always available at the drop of a hat.  
And I am sorry, I really think you believe you are going to be able to avoid getting scammed by talking to someone, but I have seen several times where guys have talked to the "provider" in question and still got scammed. Not a guarantee, unfortunately.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 50 reads
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21 / 42
inicky46 61 Reviews 57 reads
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22 / 42

How do you know it's not her booker?

Steve_Trevor 58 reads
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23 / 42

Anyway, I think the Crusades went out in, what, the 13th century? So count me out. Plus I don’t have to hear a provider’s voice before I book with her. But you go ahead—don’t forget those coconuts!

Lt_FrankDrebin 10 Reviews 67 reads
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24 / 42

Whau, ridden on a horse?

impposter 49 Reviews 64 reads
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25 / 42

Reticent vs Reluctant
http://www.gingersoftware.com/english-online/spelling-book/confusing-words/reluctant-reticent
http://www.vocabulary.com/articles/chooseyourwords/reluctant-reticent/
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I think that they are "reluctant to use" but not "reticent to use." Maybe they are "reticent about" discussing certain topics on the phone and they can also be "reluctant to discuss" certain things on the phone. It seems that "reluctant" takes a verb but "reticent" takes a preposition.
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I ask that you please be reticent about my nitpicky post.

Posted By: mrfisher
Re: You make good points,....
I always like to converse with someone before I meet them, and in fact a few gals I have met over the years insisted on it as they get a good feel if the person is a fit for them or not.  
   
However, as some have pointed out, phone calls can be an outlet for bad behavior, so many become reticent* to use the method any more.  
   
*(Please note that I was tempted to say, but didn't say, that many providers now eschew using the phone.   Thank you.)
About that ... Gesundheit!

impposter 49 Reviews 70 reads
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26 / 42

Or will you bring a Rabbit and a Tiger?

Posted By: Steve_Trevor
Re: Will you bring the coconuts for the crusade?
Anyway, I think the Crusades went out in, what, the 13th century? So count me out. Plus I don’t have to hear a provider’s voice before I book with her. But you go ahead—don’t forget those coconuts!

Lt_FrankDrebin 10 Reviews 18 reads
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27 / 42

I agree! It seems like in general people are less and less willing to talk to each other and it’s sad.  

 
Assuming there’s enough history to make me comfortable, any provider who allows calls moves way up the list for me. I was just saying that the ones who don’t allow it, you can’t hold it against them.  

 
Your system sounds cool, if it works for you. You gotta do you. That’s a good point about the great client you never would have met.  

 
It’s sort of strange, it looks like this is your first post. But I’d swear I've seen your pics elsewhere before, just as familiar as a bottle and a glass.  

 
I don’t know if I’ll ever go to Chicago, but if I do I’ll probably give you a call.

SamanthaKillington See my TER Reviews 52 reads
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28 / 42

1000%.  

also called, the ability to receive so many harassing messages.. Time is a commodity xo

Lovely Lorena See my TER Reviews 75 reads
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29 / 42

I was mentored by some of the great women of prior years.,. Ie Cindy Spice etc  
I agree a break the ice phone call is priceless!!!!
sometimes you just need to keep it simple and say hi

xoxo  
Lovely Lorena

divadiamond See my TER Reviews 69 reads
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30 / 42

My screening on the phone tells me what a caller is all about.  I listen to what they say, very successful for both of us.  Texting fosters miscommunications and blow ups on a phone.  Please call.  Zoe Zane aka Fetish Diva Diamond

Kitty76 See my TER Reviews 58 reads
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31 / 42

Most Escorts/Provider doesn't answer their phone, because they are afraid that they will have problem (Cops called) as far what they do for a living (Escorting is not legal). That's why texting is better (People around you has no clue as to what you are saying).

Kitty76 See my TER Reviews 35 reads
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33 / 42
MellowSoul 120 Reviews 34 reads
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34 / 42

Over the years on this site i have noticed quite a few mongerers that really think these gals care about them outside of that paid time.

jaydalee See my TER Reviews 56 reads
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35 / 42

Many years i have been email only.
Over a year ago I started publishing my phone# online but it is only an app#.
I have my settings to automatically go to voicemail my phone never rings .
I have an auto response that says no calls and provides the info needed for screening.
That being said before I meet a gent I do welcome a conversation. I am an old school in that sense I still like to have a conversation before meeting if the gent is open to doing so.
You wouldn't believe me many of us get calls at all of the times day and hours as another provider mentioined it gets to be too much. When I am on an appt my client has my uptmost attention and have  my phone silent I am not answering the phone while in the company of a gent or handling something personal
i will text with a gent but I prefer a phone call.
Just  my .02

holystonethedeck 91 Reviews 37 reads
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36 / 42

A short phone conversation is a great idea. I'd be totally open to that and when I was new to this I asked a few ladies for that before we met - it was nice to hear a voice before meeting.

beechnut 1 Reviews 31 reads
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37 / 42

Falls in the category of what my dad Ofen said, “possible but not probable”. I am sure that the scenario portrayed in the “Pretty Woman” movie has occurred in real life, and there no doubt have been the occasional marriage between client and provider. But probably only a one or two percent chance.

beechnut 1 Reviews 35 reads
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38 / 42

Do any of you think escorting will ever be fully legal in the US, or at least decriminalized? And if so would providers then do less intrusive screening? I would think they would still need to weed out the bad actors. There are some efforts underway at decriminalizing but have not really bore fruit so far.

edinathens 40 reads
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39 / 42

I think it's easier for a provider to keep track of communications by using email or text. It is more challenging, as well as time consuming, to try to keep track of recorded conversations. Some providers have even gone to email only even on the day of the appointment.

holystonethedeck 91 Reviews 39 reads
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40 / 42
coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 37 reads
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41 / 42

to post the name of any provider you have encountered that is recording conversations with customers.  I think they would be an automatic pass for most of us if we knew they were doing it.  

LAYLAHAYEK 28 reads
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42 / 42

I still do!

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