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Re: Interesting feedback; Surprised by the Consensus...
LacieO See my TER Reviews 79 reads
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Honestly, I looked at the bundles as ...

Oral GFE Pleasures
FS GFE Pleasures

When I first started the industry, I was a FS GFE gal.  About 6 months into it, I changed to Oral GFE Pleasures for personal reasons.
There was a true market for the area I was advertising for this service.

I saw it as a win-win.

Typically, the hh is all about him.
The hour could be all about him and/or reciprocation.

There are many gents that enjoy the real GFE of chatting, kissing, touching, cuddling and a happy ending without the full-on act.
And I enjoy these session just as much as Full GFE.

Today, I don't advertise this way, however, if a gent inquires about it, it is there for the choosing.

I live in the moment and believe in the time that we share together ... cuz there is no script and it just flows the way it is suppose to.

I also believe that it is always in the way we say things that can make them attractive ...
Offering a "Debauchery Package" sounds more intriguing than a "bundle" - of course, if that was the word that was actually used.

That is where I believe semantics and marketing fit in!

Sunshine Smiles ~
Lacie O
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Sabastian11170 reads


I recently saw a provider's website which offered different rates for different service "bundles".

Its common for providers to charge more for adding greek to the menu, but this one had a different approach.

Bundle one: BBBJ, DKF, Russian

Bundle two: Add CFS to the mix

The rate was 200 for bundle one and 400 for bundle two.

So my questions are these:

PROVIDERS:
Does this make any sense to you?  Do you see CFS as more "work" and therefore require more pay?  Would you happily offer a lower rate for the same amount of time if CFS were not on the menu?  How much less would you ask for bundle one?

HOBBYISTS:
Would you be interested to see more providers offering this option?  What rate differential would make it appealing to select bundle one?

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mrfisher248 reads

Sometimes I don't know where the session is going to go, so I don't want to have to stop and pay more and then proceed again.

I can understand the Greek upcharge because there is preparation to do for that, but not the rest.

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famkejensen193 reads

That would suck and not in a good way either.

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BBWsimone198 reads

So to speak. I know paying for "time" is a common theme. I really feel like thats what I sell. Piecing things out by activity is just not my style. I think it makes things transactional. Greek is... a grey area for me... i may do it with a client.. im not going to upcharge if I do. I just avoid adverts for greek because...size and personality are something that have to be seen before i know if i will/can do that.


Simone

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Hollys Hobby149 reads

trying to remember a checklist.  Getting caught up in the scent, sound, feel of the moment is intoxicating.  Trying to remember a list would distract me.

How some choose to run their business or enjoy their time should not be judged by me though. :)

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hiddenhills124 reads

You know, telephone, cable TV and high speed internet. Sorry this plan doesn't work for me.

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luv_women167 reads

..That all you are paying her for is her time.   If she starts listing specific acts and the price for those acts, things could get difficult for her.

The only exception to this as noted above is greek, which requires additional preparation if done correctly.

So the prices should be based on specific times, not acts.

In fact what happens when the ads look like this:

Kissing: $10/minute or $30/5 minutes
BBBJ: $20/Minute or $50/5 minutes
etc...

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hungry1951127 reads

I will happily pay for the amount of time I wish to spend with a lady, and let the mood take us in whichever direction it's going to lead.

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Ann Braxton180 reads

A hooker charges by the act. An escort charges for her time, everything else is free.

Just my 2 cents!

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johngaltnh152 reads

I'm with you!

Hey -- what if I show up and for some odd reason I'm not in the mood to be touched? The escort still gets paid, and the hooker doesn't.

:-)

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Sabastian188 reads


This looks like semantics to me.

Stewardess or flight attendant?

Secretary or executive assistant?

Garbage man or trash disposal technician?

All different ways describing the same thing.  Often it is more politically correct to use one title vs. the other.  But changing the job title does not change the job description.

Hooker, escort, whore, prostitute, provider or courtesan?

All different ways of describing someone who sells sex for money.  Yes, some do it in a more refined way than others, and some elevate the job to sublime levels.  But that does not change the job description.

Choosing to charge different fees for different "acts"--as some do for FBSM, fetish or anal for instance--does not change the essence of the matter.

I think this notion of "selling time" came about in response to concerns about LE.  Let's not allow euphemisms confuse us about what is really going on.

Hobbyists pay providers for the bundle of services they provide and for the quality with which they provide them.  

The current vogue is for the GFE bundle--DFK, BBBJ & CFS.  Some hobbyists seek out providers who offer other bundles and sometimes pay more or less depending on what's in the bundle.  

The provider I referenced in my original post is simply providing a menu with two bundles and pricing them differently.  I don't think we should call her names like "hooker" or suggest that she is somehow less worthy of respect than other providers.

BTW: If we want a more politically correct term for what providers do I propose: physical intimacy therapist...  :)

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PatronDeAmore99 reads

I avoid any situation where specific sexual acts are linked to the fee.

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round_the_world98 reads


I met with a great girl in Las Vegas who did have hourly rates, but she also had a "Debauchery package". At ths time it was a 90 minute date with anything goes... fetishes, greek, anything. So of course, I opted for the upgrade.

We do it on our cars, boats, streos, and other expenditures all the time. I got no problem paying for a bonus package like I had  :^D

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cshore102 reads

I don't think it would attract me and would likely be a negative.  I recently went to a restaurant and asked if they could take the potatoes off and put something green there instead.  The waiter said he could take things off but could not put anything in its place.  I won't go there again.  Too much nickle and diming detracts from the experience.

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famkejensen83 reads

Ok that's just wrong...you bet I'd never set foot in that establishment again!

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Sabastian1100 reads


There is consensus amongst hobbyist & provider respondents regarding different pricing for GFE vs. GFE w/o CFS.  

No one likes the idea.

I'm surprised by the unanimity of the response.

Provider and hobbyist alike are in the habit of differing fees for FBSM vs. Escort vs. Escort Plus Anal...

...why not a different fee for FBSM plus BBBJ & DFK & Russian?

Another way of putting the question is when exactly does it stop being "FBSM" and start being "Escort"?  Is it when you add DFK..?  Or Russian...?  Or BBBJ..?

I've never tried FBSM, but my understanding is that the "release" is limited to a hand job.  In my view, a hand job isn't worth the trouble--might as well do that myself.  But there are times when a BBBJ and/or Russian would be perfect with no need for CFS.

So what I hear the consensus saying is that anything involving DFK, BBBJ or Russian is defined as "escort" and charged accordingly.

Are there any dissenting views from the consensus?

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LacieO80 reads

Honestly, I looked at the bundles as ...

Oral GFE Pleasures
FS GFE Pleasures

When I first started the industry, I was a FS GFE gal.  About 6 months into it, I changed to Oral GFE Pleasures for personal reasons.
There was a true market for the area I was advertising for this service.

I saw it as a win-win.

Typically, the hh is all about him.
The hour could be all about him and/or reciprocation.

There are many gents that enjoy the real GFE of chatting, kissing, touching, cuddling and a happy ending without the full-on act.
And I enjoy these session just as much as Full GFE.

Today, I don't advertise this way, however, if a gent inquires about it, it is there for the choosing.

I live in the moment and believe in the time that we share together ... cuz there is no script and it just flows the way it is suppose to.

I also believe that it is always in the way we say things that can make them attractive ...
Offering a "Debauchery Package" sounds more intriguing than a "bundle" - of course, if that was the word that was actually used.

That is where I believe semantics and marketing fit in!

Sunshine Smiles ~
Lacie O
@->--

Related Link: A Taste of Lacie O

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