Maybe she will read this that would put the point across. sounds like a father figure thing.
Seen a provider, and "clicked" after a few visits, or even if you have known her for awhile... and in doing this, you have gotten to "know" her, and feel like you can trust her. So then she calls or emails you that such and such happened, and I need cash fast.. Or the whole rent excuse... lol so then to help her how many of you guys have "pre-paid" for appointments with providers when they needed money in a hurry?
How many have "loaned" or given money to a provider? Did you get paid back in either sessions, or actual money?
I can almost bet, vif you all came forward, you would see there are LOTS of men like this...
Most men I know have this "fix-it" mentality. If a gal is upset, or stressed, or doing whatever she can to not be homeless.
It is funny that so many guys still want to fix all of or problems and they think money is all we need lol
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...it will be re-paid. For example, I loaned someone a thousand last Xmas. I've seen her a few time since and left the donation without asking about the loan. If she asks me for $ again without first re-paying the loan, it'll be the last time she sees me. I can easily afford the loss but she'll lose a good customer and thus much more than I loaned her.
a wonderful ATF client (or still do) Who takes VERY good care of me... At Christmas time, I had gotten sick for like 3 weeks, and so the whole thing messed me up for picking up my kids Christmas presents from Toys R Us on Laway...
He paid me for the session then on his way to work, he slid a $500 TRU gift card under my mat! He COMPLETELY saved my kids xmas lol
We did have a arrangement to pay him back... I saw him 2 times for 90min to "pay back" the gift card..
Many guys are ok with Paying back in services, some what the GREEN...
It varies...
But this I will say, when I hear stories of gals burning their bridge with a client who is willing to help you in need... by not repaying or what not, is really one of the stupidest choices!
You will burn a bridge with a Client who may have been very loyal, and in the long run, made more $$$ than the piddly loan..
what is the common sense in that?
xoxox
He paid me for the session then on his way to work, he slid a $500 TRU gift card under my mat! He COMPLETELY saved my kids xmas lol
We did have a arrangement to pay him back... I saw him 2 times for 90min to "pay back" the gift card..
Many guys are ok with Paying back in services, some what the GREEN...
It varies...
But this I will say, when I hear stories of gals burning their bridge with a client who is willing to help you in need... by not repaying or what not, is really one of the stupidest choices!
You will burn a bridge with a Client who may have been very loyal, and in the long run, made more $$$ than the piddly loan..
what is the common sense in that?
xoxox
He paid me for the session then on his way to work, he slid a $500 TRU gift card under my mat! He COMPLETELY saved my kids xmas lol
We did have a arrangement to pay him back... I saw him 2 times for 90min to "pay back" the gift card..
Many guys are ok with Paying back in services, some what the GREEN...
It varies...
But this I will say, when I hear stories of gals burning their bridge with a client who is willing to help you in need... by not repaying or what not, is really one of the stupidest choices!
You will burn a bridge with a Client who may have been very loyal, and in the long run, made more $$$ than the piddly loan..
what is the common sense in that?
xoxox
Have lent to providers a number of times, but have never been repaid in full by any of them. No different than any other friends or family of mine. And it makes sense, if they have to borrow from you, they have maxed out their credit and are in such a financial hole there is no way they can pay it back even with their time. Even if they could, think of the lousy sex it would be...
I'd say the payback rate is about 50%, mostly paid back by trade, so to speak.
It's not a practice I care to continue, but I take each request one by one.
Quicken Loans?" Haha
Samiam
I don't think I'll be loaning out much money.
Unless she needs a Snickers bar!
But I have helped out people in other ways..
And no.. I do not feel all warm, and fuzzy about it.
I would do it again in an instant though.
Yes.. 9 times out of 10 helping others is bad for me.
But you have to do it.. You know?
One thing I have to admit..
Any escort I have helped has always shown appreciation..
And no.. It wasn't in the form of sex.
A simple thank you, I'm doing well is all I was ever looking for.
I'm actually a little insulted that a girl thinks the only reason I would help them is for sex.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
It's called human decency.
Than listen to her problems about her BF, family , clients , car , clothes and shrink, on the phone for hours on end , time and time again .
Why can't y'all get it off your chest and vent in five minutes .
One of these days after two hours on the phone listening to her complaining about life ,
I'm going to tell her I can't take it anymore , send me a letter .
Dear John will be fine .
How many have "loaned" or given money to a provider? Did you get paid back in either sessions, or actual money?
I can almost bet, vif you all came forward, you would see there are LOTS of men like this...
Most men I know have this "fix-it" mentality. If a gal is upset, or stressed, or doing whatever she can to not be homeless.
It is funny that so many guys still want to fix all of or problems and they think money is all we need lol
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Is there somebody holding a gun to your head making you listen to this inane shit that she keeps dumping on you? Isn't that why many of us see hookers in the first place? Just so we don't have to suffer through hours and hours of bullshit just to get our pee pees wet.
I have become friends with countless providers, and much more than friends with probably a couple of dozen. I still have limits on just how much bullshit I will take before hitting the door, and that's why I will most likely never marry again. It's a lot cheaper to simply hang up on an annoying hooker, than to give half your shit away over and over.
If she was complaining when we're face to face , I would put my foot down , as
it stands she only hurt my ears .
I always try to "act " like a nice guy , even when she makes me grind my teeth .
I was told that was an important and realistic part of the BFE .
I'll start with small steps , first one , my phone will go straight to leave a message .
If I'm not replying back every few minutes with Damn , sorry to hear that , he said that about you ,
ouch , ask if he'll change your meds , landlords are like that , you're kidding , he did what ,
I don't know what you should do , ask him not me , I'm not a mechanic , etc . , I hope she
doesn't fill my voice mail . Long messages aggravate the hell out of me .
I have become friends with countless providers, and much more than friends with probably a couple of dozen. I still have limits on just how much bullshit I will take before hitting the door, and that's why I will most likely never marry again. It's a lot cheaper to simply hang up on an annoying hooker, than to give half your shit away over and over.
I have had the longest and most boring convesations with women via text that I would have pulled my hair out or strangled them had we had those same conversations by phone or in person. but by text you can do exactly what you are talking about, send a text every ten minutes or so basically saying "yes dear" lol that will keep them talking for another half an hour without taking a breath. lol
Emails are ok, but they are unlimited in length, unlike text messages which are by definition "short", but yeah I get your point
Maybe she will read this that would put the point across. sounds like a father figure thing.
The best case I can think of was a lady who was going independent and needed a few grand to set up her new incall location. I gave her the money, and truth be told forgot about it, we spoke all the time, but the subject of the money never came up. A few months later out of the blue she invites me for dinner and gives me back every penny, told me that she had taken a little bit out of each and every donation that she received until she had enough to pay me back. Great lady, oh yeah, she bought dinner too. lol
The worst I can think of was a lady that I had seen at least twenty times who was coming back from vacation and asked if I could wire her some money so she could make it home as she was on her last few bucks after taking some time off, and that she would come see me the minute she got back to town that night. It was only a couple of hundred bucks and like i said, i had seen her numerous times and already knew her real name and everything, AAR, you guessed it, I wired her the money, she called to let me know she got it and that was the last I ever heard from her. oh well, shit happens.
So yes, I have been guilty of this as well, and these are just a couple of examples, I never stress over it, and the last thing I would ever do is come on here and whine about it, but yes I have done it many times. I treat it just like loaning money to anyone, I don't loan money I can't afford to lose, and once it leaves my hand I consider it gone. If I ever see it again, I consider it found money.
and didn't get burned. I was going to see her in a couple of weeks but she was having car trouble and needed the money up front. I sent it and she ended up giving me an extra hour OTC to say thanks.
But it was the only time and I don't plan on making a habit of it.
The worst I can think of was a lady that I had seen at least twenty times who was coming back from vacation and asked if I could wire her some money so she could make it home as she was on her last few bucks after taking some time off, and that she would come see me the minute she got back to town that night. It was only a couple of hundred bucks and like i said, i had seen her numerous times and already knew her real name and everything, AAR, you guessed it, I wired her the money, she called to let me know she got it and that was the last I ever heard from her. oh well, shit happens.
So yes, I have been guilty of this as well, and these are just a couple of examples, I never stress over it, and the last thing I would ever do is come on here and whine about it, but yes I have done it many times. I treat it just like loaning money to anyone, I don't loan money I can't afford to lose, and once it leaves my hand I consider it gone. If I ever see it again, I consider it found money.
that i would consider to be friends, and have loaned money too. I see it as the same as loaning money to a friend at work or a friend i've known for years. I would not say i loan to everyone, some are just flakey. But as a whole most of the women i see are good at managing their money.
Yes i have and will do again as long as she knows it is a loan that can be paid off by trade
've loaned money to friends and family with pretty much the same results... sometimes it comes back and sometimes it doesn't.. if a friend happens to be a hooker, that doesn't change the basic premise.. yes, I will loan you money to get you out of tight spot and have done so... the underlying principle is fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me... you only get to come to the well once.. this applies to both friends and family..
or maybe they will, I don't know what kind of friends you have. lol
But seriously, You make a very valid point, hookers are people just like anyone else. The only real difference is that you are loaning money to someone you have sex with, that usually cuts down on your odds of ever getting paid back. That's why the old adage of treating loans to friends as gifts holds very true here.
I think one of the keys to loaning money to hookers, especially if you want to keep fucking them, is to never loan enough money to them that they think it's easier to lose the customer than pay back the money. It's just like a bar that runs tabs, when a customers tab gets too high, he simply starts going somewhere else. So the bar ends up losing the money AND the customer, lose lose for them.
in a non-clinical fashion for 10 plus years just for shit and grim reason, 99% of people I lend money to, provider or not, will not pay back. I think it's human nature to generously accept yet hard to pay back in kind. The 1% (who re-pay) seems to be the one who will genuinely value your help. It's too bad some of the providers are not good at managing their own financial affairs.
they would have a better chance of getting what they want.
So the 175,223,511th provider that asks me will hit the jackpot! Yay!
...to help a friend in need. And while she always offered to pay back, i usually considered it as a pre-payment for the next time we meet. So it helps both of us. And I would only do this for someone I trust, someone I am friends with. We trust each other. That's the only way it can work.