Hobbyists: I am wondering how other hobbyists cope with the high cost of this hobby.  I just saw the most amazing provider who charges $400 per hour.  I want to see her once every week, but at that rate I will go broke!

Providers: Do you ever work out a deal with good clients?  I mean, if a guy treats you right, is clean and is willing to see you every week, what would it take for you to privately offer him a lower rate- like $100 per hour if he'll see you every week and make sure to treat you right?

If I had a client who wanted to see me every week, I would work something out with him if he asked me to.  My rate is already pretty low, so I would not discount it $100.  But, we would work something out together that is acceptable to both of us.

Another option for you is to see a provider that is within a price range you can afford.  

I do not recommend you nor anyone else ask a provider for a lower rate unless you have seen her more than once and like brownbeard, you intend on repeat visits often.  Many ladies including myself are turned off by it.  Just an FYI.

Most escorts don't negotiate.

Betty, I love you already!  LOL

For me I gave up buying a new car so I can finance my addiction, I mean the hobby.  

But I can't speak for the ladies but maybe if you paid in advance they would give you a discounted rate. Think about it, if she is THAT good that you are willing to spend 1t least a grand every month, she has clients she can see at regular rates.

I am also a personal trainer. Just like my training sessions. I have offered gents a group of ten sessions at a lower rate. NEVER $100 hr. My fully clothed personal training kick your ass...not kiss your ass sessions go for $80 a hr. so for twenty more to offer my naked splender? I can't !
I offer you a upscale hotel for me to host. So yfor you to ask $100 my hotels are never  for less then $150.......i would be going backward wouldn't I?

...for $400 a month?

LOL

If she's charging $400 a session that must mean that she's good.  Why would she discount so severely for an uncertainty?  I mean you can promise that you'll come back next week if she gives you a $300 discount but who is to say you actually will?  Even if you did - $400 for 4 hour sessions is ludicrous.

Find a price point that works for you and don't insult the provider who pays and works to provide her service.  Most appreciate a regular client and some will price accordingly, but you can't honestly expect her to go into the negative to accommodate you because you're involved in a leisure activity that is too expensive for you.

Haggling is really not nice.

Why not see her once a month, if that is what you can afford?

Or, find a provider who you can connect with, who is more economical for you.

I am $400 for one hour GFE.  My rate goes down per hour, if the guy books multiple hours.  My four hour GFE rate is still $800, though.  I do not go down to $100 an hour ever.

Would you be happy if you got your paycheck, and it was only 25% of what you were supposed to get paid?

You have no idea how many clowns offer me "long term" business, hoping that I will discount my rate for them.  Have any of them ever followed through on their promise?  No.

I agree with the other poster that haggling and making "long term" false promises is a major turn off.

I do *really nice* things (which I will not reveal here) for my regular clients, but chopping my rate down to $100 an hour is not one of them.

I know a provider who gave steep discounts to regulars thinking it would make more $ for her in the long run...guess what doesn't work, the guy took the $ he saved and tried to see a friend of hers and get her at the lower rate because the other had done it. Well too bad for him as now neither girl will see him.
 Lets see if she cuts her rate 75% so you'll see her 4 times a month vs 1 time a month at full rate, she might as well see you 3 times a month for free and charge everyone else full rate. It would save her an hours time. LOL Ask her using this logic, maybe she'll go for it.  
 Your proposal to pay 25% for 4 times means seeing you costs her 1200 a month to get your 400. Not a smart thing for her at all. Now if you were asking for 4-15 min bjs for your 400 you might find someone willing but not likely the one in your story.

I met one lady where she was 400 for 90 minutes. My second time with the same lady was at 300 for 1 hour and 350 for 90 minutes. The sessions weren't amazing either.  I was safe, nice, no trouble, so why not? I guess she also did this because it saves her time, energy, and a possible risk with newer clients for more money.

However, in your case... I think going from $400 to $100 is pretty steep. Personally I do not see a reason for a provider to be mad by lowering rates for a good client from $400 to $250-300. If the client is clean, treats you right, and will meet with you multiple times, then whats the problem? You ladies think that is bad? How so?

Providers are professionals. They charge what they charge. It's inconceivable one would go from $400 to $100.

Also, why would she? Providers at that level most always have clients who treat them right. It's not something that merits a discount.

You need to keep shopping for much less expensive providers. Don't get fixated on this one.

At least on one level you are lucky. I'm not happy with anything less than a two-hour session so my costs are even higher. Be glad you're happy with an hour. With one of my fav's I never do less than three.

You need to change your job to get higher income. $400/month is nothing for most guys on this site. There are guys who regularly spend $1500-$7000/month on the hobby.

I know someone who spends about 2 - 2.5k per month,sometimes more,  and he gets additional time/service frequently but seldom, if ever a price drop.

My advice is find a lady you like within your price range.

We don't chage what we do becuz we don't like our clients.

I charge my fees becuz they bring me the fellows I like to see.  I've found a HUGE difference between a $300 client and a $400 client.  Not all, but many.

If you TRULY liked and respected her you wouldn't want to work her to death for 1/4 of her income and you would respect her quality of service.  That is one reason it is so crisp. She isn't all worn out seeing men all day long to feed herself.
But charges more so she can see less and stay right on her upkeep.  

You want to pay me $100 for an hour but pick up my clothes, shoes, or spa bill for the month?
Ha ha You would quickly feel good about the small $400/hr fee.

the kind of discount you are wanting is impossibly huge. i never negotiate rates. in the past i have accepted offers of off the clock time. i might accept if offered a discount. but i would never, never initiate such a discussion. i don't think that it falls under the category of "treating right".

i echo that you are lucky if you can be satisfied with an hour. i usually book 1.5 to 2.0 hours to get to know someone and go up in duration from there. it's not that i am rich either. i have a very disciplined approach to my budget and only a professional accountant to account to.

you need to adjust your priorities and not put your troubles on the lady. this isn't meant to make you feel bad. i could also profit by following my own advice better.

We all have to hobby within our means. I'd love to be able to see my ATF once a week but I simply can't afford it. Negotiating is never a good idea. Asking for a discount is more likely going to cause resentment than appreciation of your business.  I have been seeing my fav for about three years and I do get a multi-hour discount as well as being treated very generously as far as actual time spent goes.  This happens to good and loyal customers who don't try and nickel and dime good ladies.

Yes, it is expensive.  I choose ladies in my price range...  I increased my weekly cash pocket money and whatever's left at the end of the week, it goes to my play fund.  When there's enough in there for a visit, I go for it.  Yes, it takes disipline.  
After a few appointments at full rate, a lady may give a slight "regulars" discount or extra time or "rate freeze"...  but don't count on it.  Each indy runs her business as she sees fit!
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Yes all my regulars are on a rate that I see all the time.  I been see some of my regulars since 1996.  Listen if you are a good guy and was liked by her you can get good deals from her

No, I would never negotiate any sort of deal like that.  Paying the donation is part of treating us right.   Just do what you can afford and desire.  I understand that golf is quite expensive as well, don't pick up that habit too

I afford very good/repeat clients an occasional discount or added time but it's not expected from them and not negotiated.  A 400hr provider will not likely come down 100-150 an hour and reasons are many.  One is our overhead and expenses continue whether providing at a discount or at regular rate.  The safety factor may be a bit in favor but it's the same work and the same precautions/logistics that have to be put in place to do that work.  Another reason is not to devalue our "product" and the fact that we could be spending that time with someone who pays the full rate and will just as likely repeat.

If the overall number of visits tripled from the current, rate could be dropped to $100.

Providers seek to maximizes income not rate.

Also, most providers are not at full capacity: maybe once every other day.  They certainly can do 2 per day.

I don't have to mention the demand side.  If more hot providers getting into the business, the demand would keep up as well.

And their responses were predictable...namely, that attempting to negotiate discounts will likely blow up in your face.  Boom!

Expecting or even hoping a $$$$/hr. lady will discount you 75% to see you weekly because your a good, regular client is patently a bad business practice on their part.  If you see a lady that often, she may toss you back a few bucks on some occasions, or allow you to take her to dinner OTC even now and then, but to think that that would accept $ to see you regularly is totally unreasonable.  You might want to try your luck on CL if $/hr. is what you are seeking...  

NEver tried but read all the time on USG, ussualy 30-40, but sometimes discount.

Half hour incall is 100 flat, done a few. Plenty of time, just pace. 15 min is even less, around 70, just gotta to pump yourself before coming in.

And with DSL can get redtube, maxporn, youjizz - always free
Hope that helps

to see a $400 an hour lady for $100!  Yikes!  No way!  If you asked me that, I would mark you as DNS.  

To elaborate on my prior post, if someone new asked me for a discount, I would not see them.  Mainly because it is insulting.  If I start seeing someone often.  Not just having him tell me he will see me often.  He IS seeing me often!  (2x per week or more)  Then and only then the subject of a discount may come up.

Otherwise, leave the donation alone.  See ladies you can afford.  I wish I would have read this correctly late last night brownbeard.  For you to even suggest offering $100 per hour to this $400 per hour lady, will get you on her DNS list fast!

Blue collar mechanics, plumbers, electricians make more than that.  Gals have not responded to this thread because many DO discount, but will NEVER discuss those deals on a public board. NONE will go that cheap that are white, have a full set of teeth, and no track marks in their arms.  A $400 girl is NOT in your league like an Aston Martin is not in your league.  Got to CL, and find a trailer park HO.

A four hundred dollar an hour lady dropping to $100 is just plain ridiculous. and not all providers are looking to "maximize income" at the price of fucking 20 guys a day.

Now that's not to say that there aren't plenty of women out there that wouldn't love an arrangement like that, but any woman that gets four bills an hour wouldn't be one of them.

LOL, Late night reading and writing coherently can be hard.  Hope my tongue-in-check response was not misinterpreted.  My sin would be asking if they want dinner afterwards. LOL


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Since this posting has somehow morphed fom its original intent, let me say this, a VIP provider must have to hit rock bottom to start charging 100.00 per hour, even for a regular.  

Qith the recession, I thought if I lost my job, what would be the minimum salary I would accept if I was unemployed?  I said even if I filed for bankruptcy, I still would not work for under 50K and bankruptcy would be rock bottom.  

A VIP who can charge 400.00 has the skills and talent that men are willing to pay for recession or mot, not every provider can charge that amount and earn a living

“I charge my fees becuz they bring me the fellows I like to see.  I've found a HUGE difference between a $300 client and a $400 client.  Not all, but many.”

As a corollary is there "a HUGE difference between" a 300/hr lady and 400/hr lady.  I think, no I know not! You come off as an elitist Provider.

Brownbeard, I have found this hobby to be very cost efficient. I almost never date civies anymore, but if I did and began to think I was interested in her, I think I would just give her a house, a new car, and promise to send her monthly payments for a few years and let her know I would not be seeing her again. I hope that you get my drift! What is $400, $900, $1,500 for a good time with no future strings attached?

Life couldn't be better!

My rate is $250.00 and I have excellent clients.  Most, like you always leave a bit more, but it is not expected.  Let's just say the majority are professionals.  They are  gentlemen.  I enjoy them all.  It is VERY rare for me to meet someone and not like them.  It happened to me once.  I think that's pretty darn good for a year.  

I don't think I am less of a lady for charging less either.

 Hugs, Betty

So what do you really want LOL> Why do you think she charges 4 bills instead of one. 100 bucks and hour dude...are you fkin serious LMAO. Try CL!

I can see giving you 100 off her rate, but why would ANY girl make a conscious marketing decision like that one. Who csres if YOU get to fk her four times a month, when she can see you ONCE and make the same damn money.

I have regulars and I usually have never paid full price more than two times, BUT that is because I was offered a discount for "certain" sessions. Many girls will offer you a discount if say you only want one pop, or maybe a bj special, but if you are expecting the same level of service for a fourth of the cost, you are smoking something!

If you can't afford to see her more than once a month, oh well. Tell me her name and I will hook her ass up!

I was trying to be nice, but you said it all dude LMAO. Thanks for the visual rotf!

worry that she resented me for asking for anything.

That is why I like to bring gifts and leave tips.

The ladies I have seen have for the most part over delivered, and I have left them very happy indeed.

I will never ask for a discount or special rate.

One time when someone told me they had accidentally posted a lower rate on their site but that they would honor it, I pay paid the usual price.

but that's just me.

You are no less of a lady but in a game where the next 18 year old barbie offering greek for that same rate pops on the scene, you see where I am going.

I know most girls are in the 3-400 range, and most of them don't do any more or less than anyone else, but now and again one stumps you that exceeds all the rest and you don't mind paying that or more.

Rates are not a question of worth, talent, brains, or beauty in "most" cases, but you have to ask yourself why some get a grand and others get only 2 or 3 hundred. Somebody is paying them or they would have fallen off the map by now.

That may be so if all you see woman as just cum dumps.  For many of us (including Providers) our SO and civvie friends offer way more than Provider can offer and are well worth the price.

it's not that a man is more of a bum or more classy according to the prices they are willing to pay... but there is less doo doo to deal with (on our end) the higher the rate.  It might be a question of access but the lower the rate and the farther away from review boards that we advertise - the more doo doo we have to sift thru the find good clients.  

I liken it to a guy searching a TER reviewed providers list, then eros, then CL...  the further down the list, the more questionable girls you have to go through to find a good provider.  It is what it is but it isn't a matter of any singular guy being being less worthy for shopping in their bracket - it's the overall class of client we attract with that price in that area.

100hr? Rofl. I've found once you give discounts the abuse of it never ends.