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Re: Hypothetical?
Julian7 92 reads
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Not necessarily...

John Doe might have read the website and comprehended everything therein  (which is rare, I'll give you that) and asked for a discount anyway, for your actions are undermining your words. Words are wind and actions trump words.

You only have one answer:  

1) You're a cheap bastard
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2) You want to see what you can get away with.
   
3) You are from a 3rd world country and haggling is a custom.  
 
4) You have a price ceiling as to how much you can afford/pay for companionship.

Not a very fair question, is it? lol

But ok I will play. Actually I don't "ask for specials" when at home in the US, but I will confess when I am in a third world country I will oftentimes "haggle" not because I want to "see what I can get away with" "have a price ceiling" or that "I am a cheap bastard" but because in "some" countries you actually get "better" service if you haggle.  

 
I know this sounds strange to most Americans, but in some countries being "too easy" translates into "being stupid" and a lot of the girls don't think that "stupid Americans" deserve their best. I have many times haggled over twenty bucks just to prove I wasn't a "gringo estupido" and then after the session I've given the chica a fifty or hundred dollar tip, a sizeable amount when the session itself is under a hundred. Done that way it proves that I am generous and not simply naïve.

 
I guess I didn't stick to "one answer" so sue me. lol

Definitely relatable - especially in places like Egypt and Morocco - the locals often get offended if you don't haggle....

Posted By: GaGambler

   
   
 I know this sounds strange to most Americans, but in some countries being "too easy" translates into "being stupid" and a lot of the girls don't think that "stupid Americans" deserve their best. l

I saw a shipmate literally chased with a stick for trying to pay a Greek merchant what he quoted as the price.  
Not haggling was considered very insulting.

I went to JDU and majored in chiseling.

GaGambler105 reads

Your tuition check bounced, AGAIN.  

 
Of course "some people" would accept that as proof positive that you have graduated from JDU with flying colors.

JakeFromStateFarm104 reads

I ALWAYs pay fair value for what I receive.

Does this fact shock you? LOL

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Because I want to have sex every day like you.

but I receive a fair share of them anyway.

However I have learned to inquire because may so called specials are for shorter times or limited services which is not what I'm looking for.  If gals didn't offer specials or discounts, we wouldn't ask for hem.

In my early days, I called someone with no fee listed, so I called and asked. I declined the very high (even by today's numbers) quote. I apologized and said it was more than I had allocated or something. Her number started dropping. I figured if she thinks she's worth 900 and I agree to her offer of 200 that she will not be providing her best service no matter what. I passed.  
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A few years ago, a new ad mall in NYC (only) had a promotion that several AMP (and other MP) advertisers went with. You could PRINT A COUPON for 20 off 200. Offered and accepted!  That ad mall went out of business, by the way.  
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Which also reminds that some NYC MPs used to have frequent flyer cards. Collect 5 stamps and get 25% off the next visit or 10 stamps and get 50% off. Offered and accepted!  
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I have received unsolicited discounts when they were advertised but I didn't know about the promo. Those were from regulars who I had seen before so it was kind of generous politeness.
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In general, I don't haggle.

Posted By: Adrienne Baptiste

You only have one answer:    
   1) You're a cheap bastard  
 . 2) You want to see what you can get away with.  
   3) You are from a 3rd world country and haggling is a custom.  
   4) You have a price ceiling as to how much you can afford/pay for companionship.

noagenosage92 reads

All these pages and pages of arguing about price are ultimately tiresome.  The bottom line is very simple:  find the most appealing person at the max price you can pay and go for it.  If you can find a good person at a lower price without stupid haggling, more power to you but you're not likely to end up pleased.  You get what you pay for, providing you do responsible due diligence and avoid tramps and swindlers, and there are plenty of those out there too.  Caveat emptor!

Julian7112 reads

I have seen quite a few professionals who charge more than hookers agree to (or  decline or make a counter offer to) an offer of reduction in compensation. Why should this line of work be an exception?

I understand that girls have a dog in this fight, but it appalls me to see johns endorsing the same BS.

If the shorties will give it, why would I throw it away? You are making no sense.

....... it's the special Friday afternoon session that starts a weekend the right way.  
It's nothing to do with money, it's all to do with attitude.

Julian7115 reads

Is this a hypothetical question or are you experiencing an influx of lowballers?

If latter, it might be due to the fact the you are often responding to ISOs in the local board. This gives the impression that you're desperate for business; hence, johns think that they have bargaining power.

I hope this response doesn't get you mad.
Fais ce que tu dois, advienne que pourra!

This response doesn't make me mad.  

It just shows me that you haven't looked at the fine print in my ads that reads "Rates are non-negotiable". 😉

Julian793 reads

Not necessarily...

John Doe might have read the website and comprehended everything therein  (which is rare, I'll give you that) and asked for a discount anyway, for your actions are undermining your words. Words are wind and actions trump words.

But I wouldn't turn one down if offered. When business is slow, do you offer them AB?

Book a regular appointment and get five-dollars off a future multi-hour booking any Sunday between noon and 4pm.

I don't ask for specials, because I want the provider in a good mood when I am with her.

Asking for specials is probably fine for low-empathy bangers, because they don't really care about the provider's mood as long as they are getting access to her orifices.

The only time that I have ever asked about a discount was on the two occasions that my ATF pulled an NCNS. I didn't even name a dollar amount, I just suggested that a discount would be a way to make it up to me. Both times, she said that she was planning to give me a discount, but decided against it just because I asked. Because of that attitude, she doesn't get my business anymore.

Clients will continue to ask for specials as long as there are lades giving them. I feel that unless a lady clearly advertises that she's having a special, it's extremely rude to ask. Thinking you're "special" enough for a discount will usually get you nowhere.

Julian768 reads

Really??? Extremely rude???

This is exactly the type of BS perpetuated by hookers in order to mentally bludgeon unsuspecting johns into blind acceptance of hogwash that is clearly against their self interest.

To those who are offended when asked for a special by a john:  
Please tell us whom we are dealing with: a professional or a neurotic girlfriend?

it would be #2 See what I can get away with. I do tip though, so in the end it wouldn't really matter much.

I am far too worried that I will lose out on meeting the few I have that I don't have the nerve to even try it. Likely anyone I have met as a client would not have taken my asking as anything but an insult and thought of me as a cheap bastard.  

I did want to see a gal once who was $1500/hr but I like a few hours and 6k would have not been something I care to spend. I was tempted to ask about a 4hr and see what the rate was, but again, I have no balls. I guess at that point, it wouldn't have mattered if I had asked as I wouldn't have seen her anyways for that amount. Had it worked out to 800/hr average i would have jumped on that. I try to keep my overall ceiling to an average of 800 between the hours. Sort of because I am a "cheap bastard" in the sense that I could do other things with that money.

Posted By: Adrienne Baptiste

You only have one answer:    
   
 1) You're a cheap bastard  
 .    
 2) You want to see what you can get away with.  
     
 3) You are from a 3rd world country and haggling is a custom.  
   
 4) You have a price ceiling as to how much you can afford/pay for companionship.

Mommascomin63 reads

you see ladies as a client even though you're a provider? or do you have a alias account where you post as a client, but forgot to select the right name when you made this comment?

Alex has been very open about being both a provider and an occasional client as well. Not everybody here has to hide behind an alias in order to have the guts to be candid about their opinions or their actions.

I don't use aliases or have a second account. I have asked and was told that I can not write reviews either, in case you were wondering. I am very infrequent in Hobbying. Only seen 3 gals in that manner.  

You'd be surprised to know that I know of at least 8 other providers who have also been clients of other ladies. It's more prevalent than you would think.

...if i want too see you..price is never an issue...if you're not worth it...hooray!!!...if not..i'll pass that info on....regardless...i usually tip as well...

Even then I don't bring it up until I'm near the end of the call. Closest I came to a discount was a provider sent me a message saying she'd like to meet me. Read her profile an kindly told her my budget didn't stretch that far. She asked what it was, I told her an she was willing to meet me.

It's a bad reputation for one to have in the hobby community, and it's easily the quickest way for a provider to get turned off from me. If a special was already being offered, that would be the time to take advantage, but if I don't like her regular rates, I wouldn't even call her up to begin with, I'd just keep it moving even if I think she's hot. Ain't nobody got time for that!

Isn't it in a roundabout way the same thing?

 
Say if there's a provider that's $700/hr and that's a little high for your budget, so you won't see her. Lets say that same provider has a special a few times a year, where she's only $500/hr, and you seeing a deal, will see her at $500/hr.  

What's happening here, is that you're voting with your money. You seeing someone exclusively when they're having a special is the same as saying, "I don't think you're worth your regular rate". That'd certainly be offensive to most in so many words.

 

Now, I don't negotiate price because I don't care to, but I also don't see any reason outside of people getting butt hurt that makes it a dark mark. We haggle prices for all sorts of things in real life, it's not a personal attack against the person selling it.

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