If you go back and read some of Udo's post, you will probably conclude that it is miraculous that he got a white listing ...
slipped on a cover in his review, do you automatically assume he entered uncharted territory unprotected?
Just read one where the dude went from rubbing his dick on her clit to burying himself ....
If you wanted to see that provider or potential client, would you PM him to ask about his use of protection, automatically pass on the lady or guy, or see her anyway because you're usung a rubber?
I've considered DATY implications so you can reply ... just don't assume I haven't thought about it. I'm trying to shorten my responses LOL, but ... RDGAF
... when I did write them I never mentioned the condom even though I always used one. My assumption is that everyone knows a condom is used. I never experienced any blowback.
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That a condom is ALWAYS used, EVERY time, by EVERYONE?
That is one helluvan assumption.
I'm rather prone to making assumptions myself. I'm not saying you're wrong, but that's not an assumption I'd make.
I don't really expect the truth where it comes to BBFS, from either party, unless of course the woman is one of the few who openly advertise BBFS. Those I avoid like the plague as the sheer number of guys, and the quality of those guys just pushes her into a "risk pool" that is intolerable for me. Just like I am NOT going to see an intravenous drug using hooker from Haiti who works out of W Hollywood, Key West or San Francisco. lol
As for a woman who may or may not have had BBFS with a client, I am not going to lose sleep over it, unless the reviewer was Udo. Virtually everyone is having BBFS with "somebody" P/V protected sex is a low enough risk activity that I am willing to accept the risk that the women I have sex with most likely are having BBFS someone in their lives.
I double checked, udo never wrote a review.
Somehow, he did get a white listing, I suppose he told he was someone else, or paid her for the white listing
Just because someone hasn't written a review does not automatically invalidate any Whitelists.
I've given a couple Whitelists to gentlemen who've never written a review.
On the opposite side of that coin: just because he has BOTH whitelists & reviews doesn't mean he has seen those ladies either. I've contacted a couple ladies who told me that they didn't remember seeing that reviewer but since he wrote a nice review she gave him the Whitelist.
None of this is real evidence of anything.
If you go back and read some of Udo's post, you will probably conclude that it is miraculous that he got a white listing ...
The quality of trolls and stalkers has gone down quite a bit these days. I personally am pleased to have a few stalkers but am sometimes embarrassed at their poor quality.
Do you think anyone is going to remember MAC even a week after he is gone?
and you do have a point about your stalkers, I tend to attract a higher quality breed of stalker personally, but you are starting to make up for your lack of quality with quantity at least. lol
He was also hysterical. I enjoyed him immensely, especially when I brought out my favorite alias, HirogensMom, who talked like a hillbilly and would yell at him to come home and clean up her local glory hole.
As for the quality of my stalkers, I really can't argue much considering that alias2345 (or whatever his name is) can't "rite inglish" and that other one thinks I'm a renegade former mod. As I said, it's just embarrassing. Not that your stalkers are very impressive either. It's just a sign of the impending apocalypse.
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Hirogen was a troll and a great troll. HirogensMom, not so much.
I love your habit of framing your post as if to disagree with me and then completely agreeing with me.
and you would be HUGELY surprised to find out who Hirogen truly was. I doubt any one has ever guessed his real identity and I aint telling. lol
I was simply pointing out hirogen was a great troll and he preceded Udo by a few years. I wasn't really disagreeing with you, Mr. Sensitive.
Also, I know who hirogen was. And I'm pretty sure YOU told me. rofl.
Last, you're also WRONG about HirogensMom because she was not really a troll. She was a counter-troll. She never went after anyone but hirogen.
So, just for the record, your post was WRONG from beginning to end.
-250.
Please point out to me where I called your dumb alias "a troll"
As for Udo v Hirogen, do you ever check your facts before running your mouth? Udo's first post was well over a decade ago, long before Hirogen.
Epic fail on your part, I won't even bother deducting points from you, that would make useful as deduction IQ points from FatVern. At a certain point a number is so low, any further deductions are just a waste of time.
Here's what you said: "Hirogen was a troll and a great troll. HirogensMom, not so much." So you said HirogensMom was NOT a great troll and think you actually said, therefore, she wasn't a troll at all? And this after I said she wasn't really a troll? You are as dumb as Slingy.
And, of course, you had no reply at all when -- after YOU said you wouldn't tell me who Hirogen really was -- and I pointed out YOU were the one who told me, you have no response at all.
You really are TSTTT.
I am a little confuzzled here....
Would you be a troll in high regard? Or just the leader of the awarding of the SPOTY honor?
Pretty sure we would all refer to you years later if you suddenly stopped posting. Ah, who am I kidding, we will probably refer to you decades later.
Take LR for example, will there ever be a time when she doesn't pop up in conversation here and there?
Udo and RT are my favorite trolls. I feel a part of me is missing because they no longer post their BS here. It made my day brighter to laugh at them.
Although we all can cringe in our sleep knowing that soon the hundreds of Udo Jrs will find their way to this site and grace us with their presence.
being vague about protection to fuck with the rest of us and massage their own ego, so I don't assume anything. I KNOW what I will be doing, so it doesn't matter too much what somebody else did. I can usually tell the first five minutes I'm at the incall how good her hygiene is. THAT alone determines whether DATY is on the table for me, not something I read, or didn't read, in a review.
Just because it may not be mentioned in the review Condom use is always assumed and understood. If you're looking for a provider to do BBFSCIP it's best to ask her in person. Well that's what worked for me.
Offer BB, and they never say there is a up charge for that. I'm guessing they want to get you off, and get you gone as soon as possible. The strange part is they are attractive women.
So how do you know hookers who offer BB are attractive?
Some hookers are attractive some hookers offer BB, there must be some.
Could that be possible?
He may or may not have used a condom, but the writing suggested he did not know and did not use.
Using a cover is a must and if not it is a no go for me. I have heard an seen post on here that for some odd reason that GFE means no cover at all. I am not sure what the provider or hobbyist is thinking. No one I would like to believe wants to catch a STD by all means. I personally bring my own and in many cases have found so does the provider.
More common to label BBFS as PSE, where GFE is understood to be CFS, but with DFK and BBBJ. I think the common usage varies around the country.
I think you are the biggest promoter of misusing the term as you've mentioned it dozens of times, even correcting people who are using it properly. What other people on other boards do is not our concern, quit trying to confuse everybody PLEASE
I'm pretty sure the Bay Area is part of the West Coast and I've not yet seen the term PSE mean BBFS. It can mean that but it's not the standard definition.
They are the only ones that I have heard of who misuse the term this way, but CDL insists on bringing it up every time the term is mentioned, so often in fact that I can only conclude he WANTS the meaning of the term to change.
I agree with you, that is NOT what the terms means and CDL is only causing confusion by bringing it up for the fiftieth time
CV listing. All the girls that have PSE after their names are offering BBFS. Its a fact. I'm just reporting, but GaG likes to shoot the messenger when he doesn't like the message.
CV listing. All the girls that have PSE after their names are offering BBFS. Its a fact. I'm just reporting, but GaG likes to shoot the messenger when he doesn't like the message.
In a certain K Girl review place guys would mention BBFS. Still it was maybe 20% of the reviews. It has never been a secret that K Girls give up a lot of BBFS. Which is why you go!!
There are plenty of white escorts that "upsell" BBFS. Some advertise 'PSE" some don't. Most who advertise "PSE" are not BBFS. With white escorts PSE normally means anal.
Your argument was that on the West Coast PSE means BBFS. I still say that while it can mean BBFS that is still not the common usage definition.
Unfortunately it can't be mentioned on TER. I filtered it for white escorts. I put "PSE." There were 72 white escorts advertising PSE. I clicked on 6 ads. Five of the PSE ads said NO BBFS. The other one did NOT imply that BBFS was available. I don't have the time or inclination to read all 72 ads but I'm confident that "PSE" does not mean BBFS in Northern California.
Paranoia can be a bitch...
It should be mentioned some how as on BBBJ vs CBJ.
Bbfs vs we "slipped the cover on and...".
I think based on the girls other reviews one can figure out if she is one who offers bb services or not, so I would not hinge my opinion based on just one guys review.
.... are either fools or are secretly /obviously looking for BBFS.
I am a single male in my mid 50's, I always have at least one condom with me at all times.
Who knows when I might get lucky or choose to get laid.
Probably should check that expiration date every now and then.
Just assumed that most review writters aren't perfect authors. So i assume they do use protection unless the provider is gfe or pse
he didn't because he went as far as to rub himself right on her clit which is so risky in itself! And she let him get that far without a condom. When a guy even gets within a couple of inches of that area, I remind him to put one on or don't get so close yet
It's your choice if you're willing to see her or not. Good luck!
He could've had a condom on while rubbing against her clit and then dove in afterwards. I guess there's no way to know for sure.