The providers talk about how rude some hobbyist are, and the dumbass shit they try to pull, or just how they (the provider) are not treated with respect. These hobbyist don't really care if the provider has a good time or not as long as they (hobbyist) get off.
Then those board bullies jump all over the mangina's that are respectful, bring wine, or a gift, pay for OTC dinners, and genuinely care about the provider having a good time. More like what the GFE is intended to be. Don't expect the providers to take up for the mangina's though, because when they do the Mangina police give the providers a hard time about it.
So my question. IS there a happy medium of hobbyist and Mangina? One that is respectful but is not afraid to stand their ground against those dumbass hobbyist that don't really do anything to give the men that partake in p4p a better name.
I find myself in that middle ground, is there a name given to this class of hobbyist? I treat women with respect yet will be happy to defend myself. Do you providers have a preference?
and if you point that out, he will be trying to redefine what all that is for the rest of the day. Magic? Tell them to fuk off. Treat the women how you do best.
Whatever you're doing that feels right for you on how to treat a 'woman' not a hooker or provider, a WOMAN. I will remind most of you, no matter what world we live in, women should be respected for who we are and what we are capable of. Period.
I also refer to them as my friends, so now where does that leave us?
Yes, there is definitely a middle ground. Unfortunately you haven't found it yet.
I find it amusing the CCPA, Panthera, Inicky, myself and a few others get the label of "board bullies" yet we are among the first to offer real, genuine help without a thought for what is in it for us, whenever someone genuinely asks for or needs help, whether that person is a man or a woman, or anyone who can do anything for us in return.
OTOH you have the suckups like the Dungbeetle, who thinks that endearing himself to the ladies is going to somehow translate into OTC time, discounted sessions, or some other tit for tat type of return.
Just something for you manginas to think about when you talk about us "board bullies"
So many of these mangina putzes confuse allowing anyone to shit all over them as a sign of respect. And especially in this world...the hookers have years of experience in how to manipulate these mangina boys.
What so many don't realize is that the women I know (and you've commented on so often as well) pity those no backbone "men". And don't confuse pity as them wanting to have anything to do with them as "men".
Even the hookers who proclaim they like the gentle "men" that post...they don't like the mangina boys that pretend to be gentle "men".
Women and people in general tend to gravitate to people that have respect for themselves. Mangina boys that crawl on the floor are not viewed as endearing for most. Yet those mangina boys can't see how pitifully pathetic that is.
I said I respect all women until given a reason not to. Will not let any Woman shit on me. or man. Still would not disrespect them then, simply wouldn't have any more to do with them. Seems to me were taking the word gentleman an giving it a name mangina ,that's stupid.
just what a 'mangina' truly is, because it appears there are differing definitions. I for one do not know exactly what it is. In plain english, is it a man that acts like he has a pussy then but doesn't know how to truly 'respect' a woman and thinks kissing up to her is 'respect'? That is different in my book than a man who has the cohones of a bull, a 'true man' but is so damn respectful and hot in that respect, you can't NOT want him. THAT, my friends, is what typically drives a lot of women crazy (me included).
If I wanted to be with a 'pussy' I would date a woman, why would I even bother with a man with all the drama that comes with you all. LMAO.
Come on gentlemen...and yes, you bullies are also 'gentlemen' in my book. It takes someone with conviction to stay true to their ideals whether someone is 'bullying' them or not. But it is up to the 'bully' to back down LIKE a 'gentleman' when enough is enough. And that is what I am seeing is happening on here which is why I can say that CPA, P, Gag, ahhhh Nick you still need some work lol but there is definitely a different tone for the most part, and one for the better.
Me likey
Posted By: ChgoCPA
So many of these mangina putzes confuse allowing anyone to shit all over them as a sign of respect. And especially in this world...the hookers have years of experience in how to manipulate these mangina boys.
What so many don't realize is that the women I know (and you've commented on so often as well) pity those no backbone "men". And don't confuse pity as them wanting to have anything to do with them as "men".
Even the hookers who proclaim they like the gentle "men" that post...they don't like the mangina boys that pretend to be gentle "men".
Women and people in general tend to gravitate to people that have respect for themselves. Mangina boys that crawl on the floor are not viewed as endearing for most. Yet those mangina boys can't see how pitifully pathetic that is.
Your posts on the newbie board have been downright helpful without being preachy. Kudos. BTW you might think I am an asshole without the temperament to help the newbies, but believe it or not, I actually moderated that board for about two years.
AAR, I think your definition of what constitutes a "mangina" at least by TER standards is spot on. IMO a mangina confuses "sucking up" with respect, and thinks that blindly kissing the ass of every woman is going to curry favor with them. That's the real difference between a "gentleman" who respects women, and a mangina who simply kisses up to them IMO.
BTW I may end up liking the new Taylor, and don't worry there will always be new board trolls for me to fuck with, so there will be plenty of cannon fodder for us "juvenile board bullies" even if you are no longer a target of our rapier wit. lol
I am sure by now you have noticed that I/we don't fuck with everybody, but some people just beg for it. You used to be one of those people, but as your attitude seems to have changed, you'll most likely notice the way you are treated here is going to change as well. Welcome Back
...start using that term in earnest until CPA did. You mostly used it when addressing 'HookerWithAHeartOfGold'. I always thought you were your own man, not giving a shit what anyone else said or did. Now you are following like a little sheep.
I certainly didn't consciously avoid the term, and now that I think of it, I think I use the term more because of London that CCPA.
and truth be told, I DON'T really give a shit what anyone else says or does, and that obviously includes you, but I did give you belated props where it came to Gabriel Gomez.
There are many things we do because some one else started it, that doesn't make us followers, there is just only so much original thought, and anything that pisses off the PC crowd is just find with me. Given a choice between following something that CCPA did or did not start or following the likes of some of the completely spineless mangina types, I'll take CCPA any day of the week. Hey there's another word I obviously did not invent "Mangina" If my memory serves me right I "borrowed" it from Fuzzy after he used it to describe MSD, as pitiful an excuse of a man as I can think of. Does that make me a sheep like follower of Fuzzy as well?
That there are more than two groups of hobbyist. I have no fear if scrapping but chose my battles wisely.
To be pissed off at anything here is insane. We are all probably good people but some have a more laid back approach. I'm not here to make fun of anyone, or call people names I did that when I was twelve.
Bring up a good topic and I will comment. I didn't call anyone out by name yet you all put yourselves in a category. Then defended why you are in it.
There is one, but you haven't reached it yet. We will let you know when and if you graduate from mangina school.
Providers can be quite content with hobbyists like me who are respectful, but don't worship them like they are the best thing since sliced bread. It is also the manginas that are more likely to be time wasters and stalkers.
Don't worry about giving hobbyists a better name. Just worry about MM and carry on the way you see fit since it is your dollar.
I absolutely admit I lean towards the mangina side, when it comes to respecting the ladies.
I have learned a lot from when I first started, and have a better understanding of things. I have made friends and happy that I have. It is just not in me to be an asshole to everyone I meet, but there are a select few that I certainly will not hold back on.
.from sheer boredom.. you don't strike me as the kind of guy that really gives a rat's ass what a bunch of misogynist cretins on a fuck board think of you or want to label you..
True I really don't care, I will lose NO sleep over it. It is just the back and forth mangina vs professional hobbyist that has a way of just running away with a topic. This is a forum and discussions are supposed to take place.
It was a simple question because I did not see the difference between the two as cut and dry as others.
Of course it was about me jackass. I don't feel like I am grouped into one of those two categories alone.
For example I don't hide behind an alias to make a try to make a point. I would be proud of you for being the first one to attack the post, but alas you're just an alias.
People love calling other people names to make themselves feel superior. Are you happy with what you do? Do you enjoy the relationship you have with providers (real or unreal)?
So who gives a fuck what someone on a pussyboard calls you for it?
Provider, Escort, Prostitute, Hooker, Streetwalker, Ho. Titles, labels given by others based on their perception and judgement of what a pro does. If a woman is happy with what she does, feels good about it, enjoys getting paid for it, what diff does it make what someone else calls her? If she has a preferred title, and you choose to respect that, then do it. She gonna get called names by people either way.
Hobbyist, Client, John, Trick, Mangina, Sucker. Again, who gives a shit? Unless getting called a title makes you feel a certain way because you secretly feel insecure about what you are doing. If you like what you do and enjoy doing it a certain way then fuck it. That's what you are paying for. As long as you don't stalk, creep or violate. Love and respect the "Providers" all you want. It's your life, your feelings and your money. Any other dude that is worried about how you feel and treat providers, need sto take his hand off of your dick and grab his own.
I resent you making fucking sense...that's not what this is all about
But I do appreciate that at least you acknowledge that a reach around is the respectful thing to do.
Posted By: MarkTheHumper
People love calling other people names to make themselves feel superior. Are you happy with what you do? Do you enjoy the relationship you have with providers (real or unreal)?
So who gives a fuck what someone on a pussyboard calls you for it?
Provider, Escort, Prostitute, Hooker, Streetwalker, Ho. Titles, labels given by others based on their perception and judgement of what a pro does. If a woman is happy with what she does, feels good about it, enjoys getting paid for it, what diff does it make what someone else calls her? If she has a preferred title, and you choose to respect that, then do it. She gonna get called names by people either way.
Hobbyist, Client, John, Trick, Mangina, Sucker. Again, who gives a shit? Unless getting called a title makes you feel a certain way because you secretly feel insecure about what you are doing. If you like what you do and enjoy doing it a certain way then fuck it. That's what you are paying for. As long as you don't stalk, creep or violate. Love and respect the "Providers" all you want. It's your life, your feelings and your money. Any other dude that is worried about how you feel and treat providers, need sto take his hand off of your dick and grab his own.
Respect is not earned, it is given. I will continue to respect someone until that point they no longer deserve my respect.
Again what woman is on a pedestal and who is kicking me in the teeth? Do you know something I don't?
My point is being proven right now. You call these ladies BSC and state most can't hold s job at a grocery store, yet none of them have defended themselves.
Simply put I would rather be nice to someone up front and treat them with respect. Sooner or later if they are not the person they presented themselves to be, it will come out and that respect is lost.
I completely disagree with your comment that respect is NOT earned. But to each their own.
Your OP contains language that purports to place women on a pedestal...and I trust that you have had your share of getting your teeth kicked in...right?
I certainly don't limit BSC or insane to women. Plenty of guys fit that profile as well...can you say UDO?
I didn't state that any woman couldn't hold a job at the Piggly Wiggly...I said they can't earn enough working there. Holding a job there is a 50/50 proposition for most of these hookers LOL
And being nice to a stranger has nothing to do with respect. I am nice to most people I know nothing about...but they certainly don't have my respect either. That is earned based on how they conduct themselves. And that is a two way street as well.
To pretend that anyone here has anyone's respect is preposterous. Only until one meets and learns can respect be tendered.
Posted By: MagicMedic
not just women but especially women.
Respect is not earned, it is given. I will continue to respect someone until that point they no longer deserve my respect.
Again what woman is on a pedestal and who is kicking me in the teeth? Do you know something I don't?
My point is being proven right now. You call these ladies BSC and state most can't hold s job at a grocery store, yet none of them have defended themselves.
Simply put I would rather be nice to someone up front and treat them with respect. Sooner or later if they are not the person they presented themselves to be, it will come out and that respect is lost.
If your opposite person treats you the same way then both start out with a distrust and big ego to think the other must earn your respect.
Now by respect right off the bat, I find it easier to give someone enough rope to gang themselves with.
You painted with a very broad brush. Everyone here has been kicked in the teeth a time or two. As I said in an earlier response, I have learned a lot since starting this adventure. I apply it everyday, but I hope to never be cold and cynical.
I treat a woman with respect does not equal putting them on a pedestal. Although if they were we could see up their skirt lol.
lthough Chgcpa uses the dumb and BSC hooker taunt to get a raise, most of us don't even bother to defend something that has little effect anymore.I know he is just poking, he can't possibly be that ignorant.
It's his way and I am darn sure he does respect women. I treat those how I wish to be treated and I am pretty sure he does too.
No-one here is above anyone else and I think that holier than thou gets on peoples nerves and that is from both sides
I will respect anyone who has shown me that they deserve it. Hence my comments on "earning it". Same as how I have to earn anyones respect.
On a board like this it is fairly easy to piss folks off...but at the same time if you read enough of someone's posts you get to see how "they" see things.
And even if I disagree with their opinion...that certainly doesn't mean that I won't respect their opinion.
Posted By: justanillusion
Although Chgcpa uses the dumb and BSC hooker taunt to get a raise, most of us don't even bother to defend something that has little effect anymore.I know he is just poking, he can't possibly be that ignorant.
It's his way and I am darn sure he does respect women. I treat those how I wish to be treated and I am pretty sure he does too.
No-one here is above anyone else and I think that holier than thou gets on peoples nerves and that is from both sides.
ALWAYS call her a Lady or my friend, open the door for her, say yes Mam no Mam no matter the age difference , ALWAYS want Her to be happy with me. Be totally respectful to Her. Does that make me a Mangina? .
I have several clients who could charge for the BFE, but dont go crazy with it. But, you don't see them much on here. They don't need fellow assholes to join in on the degrading hooker talk, and they don't need to whine about falling in love to some strangers on the Internet. So if they do manage to stumble across a board, they usually just have a laugh and walk away.
I will stick up for a mangina all day every day as long as he doesn't get weird. I do all kinds of extra stuff to make my favorites happy, and its because they've earned it by repeatedly showing me kindness and respect. Why would I not do the same for them? Whether you guys realize this or not, we can tell pretty quickly how you feel about us, and it directly effects your experience. Those who put a little into a date get a lot in return, and are playing way smarter than the ones who want to beat them over the head over a bottle of wine, from a providers perspective.
And, honestly, if this is such a business relationship as some try to explain to us "hooktards", then it should still be pretty clear why behaving the way some do isn't exactly a great plan. Do you walk into a business meeting ready to run all over the other person? Abuse their time or product? Of course not! You wouldn't even walk into Subway that way. You act like a decent human being. You treat the other person with respect and you pay for the services rendered. That's what fosters a good relationship, and that's what leads to a good working relationship in the future. And if nothing else, you managed to at least not make an ass of yourself, which SHOULD mean something. The same exact thing goes for the other end of the spectrum. You don't cry because you lost an account or the HR lady isn't paying attention to you, you suck it up and realize that you aren't the center of the universe and there is plenty of other stuff going on.
This IS a business relationship, but most seem to feel that maintaining the "business" part of it is only on our shoulders. It's not, and once someone shows me that they can't figure that out in either direction, then they've fallen into the unseeable category, mangina or asshole. It doesn't make a difference, if you're going to make my job harder. Treat us with the respect you would have for a stranger willing to give you so much of themselves, and we will treat you with the respect we would treat a stranger who offered to pay so many of our bills. If everyone would just stick to that, we'd all be pretty damn happy to see each other, don't you think?
Posted By: MagicMedic
The providers talk about how rude some hobbyist are, and the dumbass shit they try to pull, or just how they (the provider) are not treated with respect. These hobbyist don't really care if the provider has a good time or not as long as they (hobbyist) get off.
Then those board bullies jump all over the mangina's that are respectful, bring wine, or a gift, pay for OTC dinners, and genuinely care about the provider having a good time. More like what the GFE is intended to be. Don't expect the providers to take up for the mangina's though, because when they do the Mangina police give the providers a hard time about it.
So my question. IS there a happy medium of hobbyist and Mangina? One that is respectful but is not afraid to stand their ground against those dumbass hobbyist that don't really do anything to give the men that partake in p4p a better name.
I find myself in that middle ground, is there a name given to this class of hobbyist? I treat women with respect yet will be happy to defend myself. Do you providers have a preference?
walk through the door with a smile on your face, be pleasant and respectful...until your given a reason not to be, then pull out your cock and beat her over the head with it😝
Because i do respect women, but that is just the way I was raised. I don't care if I see a hooker in a P4P date or if I see a civie for a date, i will always be respectful until I'm disrepected, and then my inner most asswholeness will come out. But most of the time I float around in the middle on this fuck board......................
Anyone who wants to give you a tough time for treating us with respect and appreciating us probably just doesn't want to rise to the standard you're setting. I personally appreciate a gentleman who appreciates me. I'll pass on anyone who doesn't without a second thought. Sydney
Well, FYI........I own the patent! Hahahaha! I saw foresaw the need about 5 years ago and figured I should capitalize on the growing mangina population joining TER.
Who would have thought that the 3 of us would be partners. One other thing. Should we hire Taylor to tailor make these?
There's no one else who embraces the label the way he does. But here's the thing, a bunch of us supposed "tough guys" respect the hell out of him because of his code of conduct and his complete decency. So what does that make us? Are we still misogynists? Is he really a mangina? Actually, I don't think so. As for me, I don't really fit any labels. I love women, especially providers...so long as they have their heads on straight. In my book, providers (hookers) have made a brave choice and I love the ones who love the sex and the entire lifestyle of living outside the law. They have more balls than a lot of the guys. So I treat them with respect and admiration. And I'll take them to dinner OTC any day (or night). I've met some great women in this game and had very few disappointments because I do my homework and have some really good friends (guys and girls) who steer me straight. It's really not that hard if you have half a brain and know how to treat people
It was my point, I don't fit into any labeled group the way I see myself.
Anyone who stands their ground, be it scoed or the other end of the spectrum CPA, has my respect. That does not mean I have to agree and certainly doesn't mean I wont argue my point just because of who they are.
CPA believe it or not is looking out for me, even though we are arguing this point. People don't always have to agree to have respect for each other.
When anyone puts forth their argument that is all that matters. I may not agree and will discuss my POV and they may not agree.
But not agreeing on a topic does not define respect. Simply it allows for those with differing POV to discuss.
Respect is earned as those POV evolve. As has been demonstrated with a well thought out thread like this
Posted By: MagicMedic
It was my point, I don't fit into any labeled group the way I see myself.
Anyone who stands their ground, be it scoed or the other end of the spectrum CPA, has my respect. That does not mean I have to agree and certainly doesn't mean I wont argue my point just because of who they are.
CPA believe it or not is looking out for me, even though we are arguing this point. People don't always have to agree to have respect for each other.
It is not going to be someone I have only met once or twice, because his ways don't come out unless he stalks me and annoys me outright for weeks on end. I demand all of my suitors to be respectful 'in person,' but I could not care less how they act on the boards. Most so called assholes are really just fronting...yea, I used that word lol.
When I think of a true Mangina, I think of someone who will always take up for a provider whether she is right or wrong, which is not doing her any favors. I prefer people to be objective, fair, and call me out when I am acting like a brat...those people have my respect because they are more worried about what I am doing to myself, vs. trying to stay on my good side. There are ways to tell someone they are wrong, without being an asshole.
Yes, there is a middle ground, but I don't care either way. I must say I prefer guys who can keep things in perspective. From what I have seen from you most recently including a few inconsistencies in what you say vs. what you do, I would never call you a Mangina. You can take that any way you wish.
Well I would wish to take that as a compliment but don't think its how you intended it, LOL
As I said earlier because we disagree on something doesn't mean any disrespect. Sometimes people just don't agree, and I will still defend my point.
If I fight with you on the boards about something won't mean I hate you, its actually fun to fight at times. I have enjoyed this entire thread, I have learned a lot here and not just today.
coming from you, it would most likely crush him. If you ever do decide to bash him, make sure there are no open windows near his location, or what happens to him will be on your conscience
Now go suck some dick like a good(or bad) little girl. lol
Actually, Dungy isn't truly dislikable in the way Udo, simple and others are. He's just lame as hell. Not the worst thing in the world, I guess, but hard to watch on a daily basis. And it's generous of him to be leaving the field open for others to win the SPOTY award. Say! Maybe that's it! He's upset he didn't win and has flounced off in a huff! Or rolled
" I prefer people to be objective, fair, and call me out when I am acting like a brat...those people have my respect because they are more worried about what I am doing to myself, ".................When I act like a "brat" and a person calls me on it ..................AND what they say actually punches me in the heart.................... I know then that I RESPECT and care for that person ! I like the way London expressed this as well ! I treat ALL people with the character they present to me and others around me and evolve it from there. Act an ass ..................... Say "please and thank you " .........................
Posted By: London Rayne
It is not going to be someone I have only met once or twice, because his ways don't come out unless he stalks me and annoys me outright for weeks on end. I demand all of my suitors to be respectful 'in person,' but I could not care less how they act on the boards. Most so called assholes are really just fronting...yea, I used that word lol.
When I think of a true Mangina, I think of someone who will always take up for a provider whether she is right or wrong, which is not doing her any favors. I prefer people to be objective, fair, and call me out when I am acting like a brat...those people have my respect because they are more worried about what I am doing to myself, vs. trying to stay on my good side. There are ways to tell someone they are wrong, without being an asshole.
Yes, there is a middle ground, but I don't care either way. I must say I prefer guys who can keep things in perspective. From what I have seen from you most recently including a few inconsistencies in what you say vs. what you do, I would never call you a Mangina. You can take that any way you wish.
at quick glance, I have one thing to say which you probably all don't want to hear but I'm going to say it anyway.
Women, whether they are 'professional' lawyers, teachers, mothers (yes being a mother is an occupation lol), providers, what have you, any woman on the planet....they all deserve the same respect that has been given since the dawn of time in being simply 'a woman'.
I'm sorry, that's just how it is although it has been forgotten.
For those of you men at any age who have mothers alive or who have passed on, ask yourself...would she be proud of you as the man you are today? As the 'gentleman' she dedicated her life raising?
If you can answer truly 'yes', then you have nothing to hide or change in the person you are. If you are 'unsure', then perhaps it's something to think about in 'changing' yourself. If you answered 'no', then you should definitely reevaluate just how it is you should be respecting women everywhere around you.
The most beautiful thing for me when I see a man still pull out a chair for a woman, or open a door for her with graciousness, or for me, the sexiest thing alive a man could ever do, is put his hand ever so gently on the lower back of a woman helping to lightly guide her as they are walking. Now that is a sign of such beauty..........
Since you haven't met my Mother...you would be shocked to know that she taught "us" to be cautious. Not to be disrespectful upon an initial meeting...but certainly not grovel to anyone either.
I've been the same my whole life in that respect. And until YOU (or any woman...or man for that matter) shows me that you are trustworthy...I won't give you that respect that you are seeking in your post. However, once you have demonstrated that you are someone that is trustworthy...I will defend your honor to the hilt.
And if you want to know how I trust women attorneys...well, let's just say I've had my share of battles with them. Most however earned my respect...while those that believed just because they were a "fucking attorney" that I should bow to them...no fucking way. Same with teachers, CEO's or hookers. Earn my trust the old fashioned way and you'll have a staunch supporter for a long time. Try and use bullshit on me...and you'll have a formidable foe in your realm.
Respect is earned.
And for the most part there are very few hookers here that haven't earned my respect. But those that haven't...well, they know who they are and hate CPA. Hmmm...wonder why LOL
Posted By: viptaylorsteele
at quick glance, I have one thing to say which you probably all don't want to hear but I'm going to say it anyway.
Women, whether they are 'professional' lawyers, teachers, mothers (yes being a mother is an occupation lol), providers, what have you, any woman on the planet....they all deserve the same respect that has been given since the dawn of time in being simply 'a woman'.
I'm sorry, that's just how it is although it has been forgotten.
For those of you men at any age who have mothers alive or who have passed on, ask yourself...would she be proud of you as the man you are today? As the 'gentleman' she dedicated her life raising?
If you can answer truly 'yes', then you have nothing to hide or change in the person you are. If you are 'unsure', then perhaps it's something to think about in 'changing' yourself. If you answered 'no', then you should definitely reevaluate just how it is you should be respecting women everywhere around you.
The most beautiful thing for me when I see a man still pull out a chair for a woman, or open a door for her with graciousness, or for me, the sexiest thing alive a man could ever do, is put his hand ever so gently on the lower back of a woman helping to lightly guide her as they are walking. Now that is a sign of such beauty..........
happy to see a man own up to his 'manliness' and in that I mean 'respecting' a woman and doing the little things. Those are so important for most of us, not all that's for sure, but I'd like to believe ladies will still be ladies even in today's world (altho most scare the crap outta me haha).
But no, believe it or not, I don't search on here, check people out etc etc..don't know how to honestly and don't care to dive any further than that. I think that would scare me haha. I just read the boards and post when I feel like it. Pretty simple.
Of course there is a happy medium. Doesn't mean everyone can find it.
There are "manginas" on this board (jesus I hate that freakin' label) who are stand-up guys. And there are experienced "hobbyist" (hate that label too) on this board who are total jack-asses.
But, there is little difference between a hobbyist, or a mangina, or someone who does not fall into either category. Any, all, or neither can be completely decent, respectful humans as easily as they can be outright assholes, or freakishly stalker-ish.
Buying a gift does not make you a total pussy. And refusing to does not make you a real man
So if I bought a gal...err, hooker a gift and refused to give it to her....ugh, what does that mean?
BTW...it's the "little difference" that this entire thread was about.
You didn't really clarify anything...sorry
Posted By: hotplants
Of course there is a happy medium. Doesn't mean everyone can find it.
There are "manginas" on this board (jesus I hate that freakin' label) who are stand-up guys. And there are experienced "hobbyist" (hate that label too) on this board who are total jack-asses.
But, there is little difference between a hobbyist, or a mangina, or someone who does not fall into either category. Any, all, or neither can be completely decent, respectful humans as easily as they can be outright assholes, or freakishly stalker-ish.
Buying a gift does not make you a total pussy. And refusing to does not make you a real man.
I am thoroughly and totally in love with a sex worker. Hell, I am even married to her. I hang with her all te time. It is almost like I am stalking her as often as I see her. LOL
I genuinely care about the providers I see. I even took on child protective services when one such provider got busted one too many times. No the child was nowhere near her providing.
I have been known to white knight heck a few times for dudes even.
I, scoed, am a mangina, and I am proud to be one. I am a mangina hear me roar!
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